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QuasiMojo · 08-24-2003, 02:59 PM

Whats worse?

Having all of humanity controlled, steered ond/or directed by a small cabal of nameless, faceless men in some black-lit back room.

OR

Knowing that the world is in a Free for All. A ship that has no Captain...Wandering the Sea of Eternity, Forever Rudderless?

Talk amongst yourselves

QuasiMojo · 08-24-2003, 03:03 PM

Oh!
It's me.
I thiiiiiiiink...

i really like the world-
"Illuminati"

GakFace · 08-24-2003, 03:16 PM

The first one.

Why? Simple, I'm not me if I am controlled. Sure the latter I'd be wandering aimlessly, but shit, I'll be damned if I don't do that already!

(when i'm inbetween classes on campus, I'll just wander around with no pre-planned direction) Besides that, so there was no cap'n to begin with, it doesn't mean it will end that way. We are a people that invent things and change things. So who is to say after a while we just forgoe the rudder and implement rockets to steer with?

Also if its the sea of eternity... Is it that because its so incredibly huge one can never live long enough to get through it? If so, I wouldn't mind, as every second of the voyage would be every bit exciting to me.

Free For All's don't always mean anarchy, and lots of times in Free For All's, its amazing how a group of people will team up in order to do better... that being said, again the FFA looks a helluva lot nicer to live in.

Siggy response: So was I controlled to give you that response? or did I just come up with that whole thing all on my own? Were my thoughts there solely by some hidden agenda to confuse all of you? If so, is this response here giving you even more reason to be..... Paranoid?

zodiac3k · 08-24-2003, 03:39 PM

i hope there's a higher power guiding us

then eventually death frees us and we are free to do whatever in a newer place

Johnny Rotten · 08-24-2003, 05:34 PM

Man controlled by a Big Brother, or no control at all. I think a Big Brother would be worse, since man is pretty fallible, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And I don't like the idea of someone pushing me around like a pawn.

QuasiMojo · 08-24-2003, 06:57 PM

Yo Gakface:
Speed Kills

YOW
Hey Now!

GakFace · 08-24-2003, 10:14 PM

k, we won't go THAT fast then.

(I caughtcha)
(that and I'm sure we'll have to slow down every so often to steer clear of the stupid drivers

)

Mr. Spacemonkey · 08-25-2003, 01:24 PM

Actually, as weird as it sounds I don't really care either way. As long as i don't know what decisions they are making for me and what route i am taking, it will still seem like free will.

MacGnG · 08-25-2003, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Spacemonkey
Actually, as weird as it sounds I don't really care either way. As long as i don't know what decisions they are making for me and what route i am taking, it will still seem like free will.

indeed, but real freewill would still be nice.

GakFace · 08-25-2003, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mr. Spacemonkey
Actually, as weird as it sounds I don't really care either way. As long as i don't know what decisions they are making for me and what route i am taking, it will still seem like free will.

So if the matrix were real, you wouldn't mind being a part of it?

QuasiMojo · 08-26-2003, 04:58 PM

I must believe that there is a plan apart from Mans Plan. I am eternally hopeful that we as a species are working hand in hand with the Great Architect in our evolution. It seems to me that if there is a God(and i believe there is) ,that He(yes I said HE) would not want his creation to go down the shitter!

It seems that their are guides for us in spiritual teachings, holy books etc...and this works pretty well on a local, individual level. But on the Big-Picture Tube...where ALL of mankind is concerned...
well, our ducks are decidedly NOT in a row. Yet.

QuasiMojo · 08-26-2003, 05:11 PM

Row,
Row,
Row your boat,
Gently Down The Stream
Merrily, Merrily, Merrily
Life is But a Dream.

GBH · 08-26-2003, 07:21 PM

Either way, we're fucked. But that is just humanity in action. Big Brother would piss me off more, though. So I'll go with option #1.

auswegian · 08-28-2003, 02:36 AM

I dunno, really. Option b appeals more in principle. But if Option A was right then I'd be living in a David Lynch movie. And that would kick ass.

TaLoN · 08-28-2003, 07:15 AM

anyone who doesn't agree that the first option is true of our society, is in DENIAL. if there were no boss, then our society would have bombed long ago...people in large groups are more stupid than horse shit

08-24-2003, 02:59 PM	#1 (permalink)
QuasiMojo King Knave Location: Lancaster	What is Worse Whats worse? Having all of humanity controlled, steered ond/or directed by a small cabal of nameless, faceless men in some black-lit back room. OR Knowing that the world is in a Free for All. A ship that has no Captain...Wandering the Sea of Eternity, Forever Rudderless? Talk amongst yourselves __________________ AzAbOv ZoBeLoE

08-24-2003, 03:03 PM	#2 (permalink)
QuasiMojo King Knave Location: Lancaster	Oh! It's me. I thiiiiiiiink... i really like the world- "Illuminati" __________________ AzAbOv ZoBeLoE

08-24-2003, 03:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	The first one. Why? Simple, I'm not me if I am controlled. Sure the latter I'd be wandering aimlessly, but shit, I'll be damned if I don't do that already! (when i'm inbetween classes on campus, I'll just wander around with no pre-planned direction) Besides that, so there was no cap'n to begin with, it doesn't mean it will end that way. We are a people that invent things and change things. So who is to say after a while we just forgoe the rudder and implement rockets to steer with? Also if its the sea of eternity... Is it that because its so incredibly huge one can never live long enough to get through it? If so, I wouldn't mind, as every second of the voyage would be every bit exciting to me. Free For All's don't always mean anarchy, and lots of times in Free For All's, its amazing how a group of people will team up in order to do better... that being said, again the FFA looks a helluva lot nicer to live in. Siggy response: So was I controlled to give you that response? or did I just come up with that whole thing all on my own? Were my thoughts there solely by some hidden agenda to confuse all of you? If so, is this response here giving you even more reason to be..... Paranoid? __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

08-24-2003, 03:39 PM	#4 (permalink)
zodiac3k Tilted	i hope there's a higher power guiding us then eventually death frees us and we are free to do whatever in a newer place __________________ zodiac3k

08-24-2003, 05:34 PM	#5 (permalink)
Johnny Rotten lost and found Location: Berkeley	Man controlled by a Big Brother, or no control at all. I think a Big Brother would be worse, since man is pretty fallible, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And I don't like the idea of someone pushing me around like a pawn. __________________ "The idea that money doesn't buy you happiness is a lie put about by the rich, to stop the poor from killing them." -- Michael Caine

08-24-2003, 06:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
QuasiMojo King Knave Location: Lancaster	Yo Gakface: Speed Kills YOW Hey Now! __________________ AzAbOv ZoBeLoE

08-24-2003, 10:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	k, we won't go THAT fast then. (I caughtcha) (that and I'm sure we'll have to slow down every so often to steer clear of the stupid drivers ) __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

08-25-2003, 01:24 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mr. Spacemonkey Wake up Location: Nowhere special	Actually, as weird as it sounds I don't really care either way. As long as i don't know what decisions they are making for me and what route i am taking, it will still seem like free will. __________________ "I hope that when the world comes to an end, I can breathe a sigh of relief, because there will be so much to look forward to." -- Donnie Darko

08-26-2003, 04:58 PM	#11 (permalink)
QuasiMojo King Knave Location: Lancaster	I must believe that there is a plan apart from Mans Plan. I am eternally hopeful that we as a species are working hand in hand with the Great Architect in our evolution. It seems to me that if there is a God(and i believe there is) ,that He(yes I said HE) would not want his creation to go down the shitter! It seems that their are guides for us in spiritual teachings, holy books etc...and this works pretty well on a local, individual level. But on the Big-Picture Tube...where ALL of mankind is concerned... well, our ducks are decidedly NOT in a row. Yet. __________________ AzAbOv ZoBeLoE

08-26-2003, 05:11 PM	#12 (permalink)
QuasiMojo King Knave Location: Lancaster	Row, Row, Row your boat, Gently Down The Stream Merrily, Merrily, Merrily Life is But a Dream. __________________ AzAbOv ZoBeLoE

08-26-2003, 07:21 PM	#13 (permalink)
GBH Upright Location: Hahaha .	Either way, we're fucked. But that is just humanity in action. Big Brother would piss me off more, though. So I'll go with option #1. __________________ Tommy Lasorda , Dodger manager, when asked what terms Mexican-born pitching sensation Fernando Valenzuela might settle for in his upcoming contract negotiations: "He wants Texas back."

08-28-2003, 02:36 AM	#14 (permalink)
auswegian Crazy Location: Perth, Australia	I dunno, really. Option b appeals more in principle. But if Option A was right then I'd be living in a David Lynch movie. And that would kick ass. __________________ "Look, I'm pretty relaxed for a guy who just lost money on a rave. And who's currently speeding down the highway drunk off my tits. And I'm being chased by someone in a blue Corolla. Woohoo! I just ran a red light!"

08-28-2003, 07:15 AM	#15 (permalink)
TaLoN Loser Location: MI	anyone who doesn't agree that the first option is true of our society, is in DENIAL. if there were no boss, then our society would have bombed long ago...people in large groups are more stupid than horse shit