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MacGnG · 08-08-2003, 12:26 AM

so what if the whole world was simply created so that everything wouldnt seem like a conspiracy. like everything thats going on is simply taking its course even thought you are still the one thats in the center of the games.

so the universe was created accordingly so whatever would happen at some specific point in time would happen.

ok so big deal whatever is going to happen is already going to happen so its not my problem, but it is.

why, who what, where, when?

maybe nothing who cares, more importantly maybe it isnt you now or ever in your life, its simply because when ever it does happen whatever you were supposed to do had to happen.

i have to tell this to everyone because whatever happends because of it must or maybe by doing this i change everything.

ok so whatever u wanna think, think but why not think something else just cause u can.

oh shit, maybe it's me; OR MAYBE ITS YOU!

KWSN · 08-08-2003, 12:31 AM

But... wouldn't the conspiracies exist upon the world created to cover up conspiracies?

....Catch-22

MacGnG · 08-08-2003, 12:44 AM

HAHA k-dubs

why does someone all ways have to use logic?
logic was created by the man!

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irseg · 08-08-2003, 01:22 AM

lay off the bong.

grumpyolddude · 08-08-2003, 08:38 PM

You screwed the pooch for all of us, Mac. The countdown has started.....

sadistikdreams · 08-08-2003, 08:40 PM

matrix.

MacGnG · 08-08-2003, 10:59 PM

but see the thing is, that no one would know there was anything wrong cause there wouldnt be. nor would there be anythign to cover up cause its whats supposed to happen

WhoaitsZ · 08-09-2003, 04:21 PM

i have to tell this to everyone because whatever happends because of it must or maybe by doing this i change everything.

now i get to ask you what people ask me:

"Huh??????????????"

MacGnG · 08-09-2003, 10:29 PM

Quote:

WhoaitsZ: "Huh??????????????"

exactly

GakFace · 08-10-2003, 01:40 PM

so... do you change everything, or did you set into play what was meant to already be done?

Flesh · 08-10-2003, 03:29 PM

pass that blunt

lola218 · 08-10-2003, 04:14 PM

i want some of what you're taking!

MacGnG · 08-10-2003, 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by GakFace
so... do you change everything, or did you set into play what was meant to already be done?

it's already set in play you mearly live your life

Nefir · 08-10-2003, 07:31 PM

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have to tell this to everyone because whatever happends because of it must or maybe by doing this i change everything.

If everything is following a predefined script, then so are you. Personally I don't believe in fate, predetermination, and other such poppycock.

Life, and existance in general, is a random equation. If you had a time machine that let you change the spin state of one single election in the prehistoric ages, you might totally screw up history as we know it, and that disproves any sort of fate argument, as far as I know (assuming fate is "linear"). And here's how:

Lets assume you're right, and we've got a working time machine that lets you go back in time and sterilize your own parents before you were born. You'd cease to exist in the present, since you were never born in the past. Wouldn't that mean the script just changed? For the same point in time (the present), there are now two different outcomes!

Drider_it · 08-10-2003, 07:54 PM

i've always thought that the pyrmids, easter island and stonehenge..was built for the sole purpose that the builders were evil jokers.. they built them for no reason for just to make generations later wonder thier brains out.. hehe

MacGnG · 08-11-2003, 01:40 PM

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Originally posted by Nefir
assuming it's "linear"

nothing is truely linear, thats the point.

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Originally posted by Drider_it
they built them for no reason for just to make generations later wonder thier brains out.. hehe

that's also the point

ObieX · 08-11-2003, 11:01 PM

"Lets assume you're right, and we've got a working time machine that lets you go back in time and sterilize your own parents before you were born. You'd cease to exist in the present, since you were never born in the past. Wouldn't that mean the script just changed? For the same point in time (the present), there are now two different outcomes!"

If YOU go back in time and serilize YOUR parents you'd never be born to go back in time to sterilize your parents. Unless you found some way to protect yourself from changes in the timeline that you would cause. The case can also be made that if SOMEON ELSE went back in time to serilize your parents so that you would never be born, they would have no reason to go back in time to serilize your parents to prevent you from being born because you wouldnt be around to prevent from being born.

macmanmike6100 · 08-11-2003, 11:06 PM

Actually, Obie, there's nothing to worry about here. Quantum physics (both that of point-particles and strings) tells us that the fundamental objects of the world travel every possible path, "choosing" the ones we observe for reasons currently unknown. This is best seen with the double-slit experiment...very weird but well-explained.

It has been thusly said that it's plausible that there are multiple, actually infinite, universes, one for every possible outcome.

Finally, then, if you were to kill your parents, nothing has to change, since that outcome has already been accounted for in another universe, a universe in which you do not exist.

MacGnG · 08-12-2003, 01:23 AM

bah none of this crazy space/time talk! u people are too serious sometimes

im simply stating that what ever you do is what you do, everything you could have done, is being done, just some where else.

it doesnt seem like something too confusing, you guys are just thinking too much!

08-08-2003, 12:26 AM	#1 (permalink)
MacGnG Know Where!	I Don't Wanna Freak You Out Too Much But Why Not so what if the whole world was simply created so that everything wouldnt seem like a conspiracy. like everything thats going on is simply taking its course even thought you are still the one thats in the center of the games. so the universe was created accordingly so whatever would happen at some specific point in time would happen. ok so big deal whatever is going to happen is already going to happen so its not my problem, but it is. why, who what, where, when? maybe nothing who cares, more importantly maybe it isnt you now or ever in your life, its simply because when ever it does happen whatever you were supposed to do had to happen. i have to tell this to everyone because whatever happends because of it must or maybe by doing this i change everything. ok so whatever u wanna think, think but why not think something else just cause u can. oh shit, maybe it's me; OR MAYBE ITS YOU!

08-08-2003, 12:31 AM	#2 (permalink)
KWSN green	But... wouldn't the conspiracies exist upon the world created to cover up conspiracies? ....Catch-22 __________________ Your arms are broken!

08-08-2003, 12:44 AM	#3 (permalink)
MacGnG Know Where!	HAHA k-dubs why does someone all ways have to use logic? logic was created by the man! ..-. .. --. .... - \| - .... . \| .--. --- .-- . .-. Last edited by MacGnG; 08-08-2003 at 12:46 AM..

08-08-2003, 08:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
grumpyolddude Deliberately unfocused Location: Amazon.com and CDBaby	You screwed the pooch for all of us, Mac. The countdown has started..... __________________ "Regret can be a harder pill to swallow than failure .With failure you at least know you gave it a chance..." David Howard

08-08-2003, 08:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
sadistikdreams lonely rolling star Location: Seattle.	matrix. __________________ "Besides the noble art of getting things done, there is the noble art of leaving things undone. The wisdom of life consists in the elimination of non-essentials." -Lin Yutang hearts, by d.a.

08-08-2003, 01:22 AM	#4 (permalink)
irseg Junkie Location: Florida	lay off the bong.

08-08-2003, 10:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
MacGnG Know Where!	but see the thing is, that no one would know there was anything wrong cause there wouldnt be. nor would there be anythign to cover up cause its whats supposed to happen

08-09-2003, 04:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	i have to tell this to everyone because whatever happends because of it must or maybe by doing this i change everything. now i get to ask you what people ask me: "Huh??????????????"

08-10-2003, 01:40 PM	#10 (permalink)
GakFace Go Ninja, Go Ninja Go!! Location: IN, USA	so... do you change everything, or did you set into play what was meant to already be done? __________________ RoboBlaster: Welcome to the club! Not that I'm in the club. And there really isn'a a club in the first place. But if there was a club and if I was in it, I would definitely welcome you to it.

08-10-2003, 03:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Flesh Psycho	pass that blunt

08-10-2003, 04:14 PM	#12 (permalink)
lola218 Tilted Location: beverly hills,fl	i want some of what you're taking!

08-10-2003, 07:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
Drider_it Junkie Location: Louisiana	i've always thought that the pyrmids, easter island and stonehenge..was built for the sole purpose that the builders were evil jokers.. they built them for no reason for just to make generations later wonder thier brains out.. hehe __________________ It means only one thing, and everything: Cut. Once committed to fight, Cut. Everything else is secondary. Cut. That is your duty, your purpose, your hunger. There is no rule more important, no commitment that overrides that one. Cut. The lines are a portrayal of the dance. Cut from the void, not from bewilderment. Cut the enemy as quickly and directly as possible. Cut with certainty. Cut decisively, resoultely. Cut into his strength. Flow through the gaps in his guard. Cut him. Cut him down utterly. Don't allow him a breath. Crush him. Cut him without mercy to the depth of his spirit. It is the balance to life: death. It is the dance with death. It is the law a war wizard lives by, or he dies.

08-11-2003, 11:01 PM	#17 (permalink)
ObieX Pickles Location: Shirt and Pants (NJ)	"Lets assume you're right, and we've got a working time machine that lets you go back in time and sterilize your own parents before you were born. You'd cease to exist in the present, since you were never born in the past. Wouldn't that mean the script just changed? For the same point in time (the present), there are now two different outcomes!" If YOU go back in time and serilize YOUR parents you'd never be born to go back in time to sterilize your parents. Unless you found some way to protect yourself from changes in the timeline that you would cause. The case can also be made that if SOMEON ELSE went back in time to serilize your parents so that you would never be born, they would have no reason to go back in time to serilize your parents to prevent you from being born because you wouldnt be around to prevent from being born. __________________ We Must Dissent.

08-11-2003, 11:06 PM	#18 (permalink)
macmanmike6100 High Honorary Junkie Location: Tri-state.	Actually, Obie, there's nothing to worry about here. Quantum physics (both that of point-particles and strings) tells us that the fundamental objects of the world travel every possible path, "choosing" the ones we observe for reasons currently unknown. This is best seen with the double-slit experiment...very weird but well-explained. It has been thusly said that it's plausible that there are multiple, actually infinite, universes, one for every possible outcome. Finally, then, if you were to kill your parents, nothing has to change, since that outcome has already been accounted for in another universe, a universe in which you do not exist.

08-12-2003, 01:23 AM	#19 (permalink)
MacGnG Know Where!	bah none of this crazy space/time talk! u people are too serious sometimes im simply stating that what ever you do is what you do, everything you could have done, is being done, just some where else. it doesnt seem like something too confusing, you guys are just thinking too much!