Really Haunted?
 

After watching the "Ghost Hunters" show on the Sci Fi channel it seems like the Bird Cage Saloon in Tombstone Arizona is truly a haunted place.

Anyone been there or watched this and felt that it was very convincing & scary in a paranormal sort of way?

Question: If you knew positively a place is haunted, would YOU go in there and hang out for proof? :eek:

Absolutely. Personal experience is always the best proof in such situations.

Gotta love how America has become more and more stupidstitious over the years. I personally blame shows that are set up to look like documentaries but are just fluff taking one side only on things like hauntings. One of these even had a woman who was in my wifes sorority back in college, what the "documentary" didn't mention was the woman is also bat shit insane. You get people looking for attention, or people looking for business (come stay in a haunted hotel!), and a uneducated public lapping it up.

Pretending haunted houses were real, I'd spend a night there to see it.

I have nothing to fear in the supernatural becuase it isn't real. I'd go investigate, find out what was really responsible, then laugh at the Ghost Hunters for wasting their lives.

For Ustwo's edification: yes, the government is behind ghosts. :thumbsup:

Sorry but Im going to defend GH here....THEIR goal is to go in these places and DEBUNK the claims of hauntings....LOTS of times they find other reasons for the "evidence" people think they have. Hell They are one of the only ones that debunked the Queen Mary

Okay, so as we started discussing....would you go into a haunted place and hang around? I would if someone I trusted was with me. I have seen a ghost once and felt prescences in some places and seen stuff move but that was back when I took lots of recreational drugs...

The Mansfield Reformatory is reportedly haunted. I have been there a few times and it definately has a certain atmosphere. :)

I wont discuss more in detail as I dont much appreciate being somewhat called "stupidstitious".

oh come on Lady Sage, dont let the non believers rob those of us that do believe of your experiences!!!

Awww...I love to hear good ghost stories, Lady Sage. Please share :)

I wouldn't hang out in a haunted place unless I was with someone. I used to work in a haunted movie theater and hubby would always close the building with me, even on his days off. We both heard or saw things that that were unexplainable...as well as several other people that worked there.

As for the jabs going on...whatever happened to civility around here? Or using the back key instead of going ahead and insulting someone you don't agree with? Sheesh.

I dream of a day when we call all post without persecution.

Unfortunately I refuse to set myself up for being jabbed, so I must respectfully decline at this time. :(

I do however strongly recommend going if you are ever in Ohio!

Yeas! Please - Let's hear more about the Mansfield Reformatory...I live near Youngstown, Ohio and I could go there to check out/debunk /whatever/ those ghost stories perhaps. If I can get my two braver pals to go with me.

As for the typical responses all new posts seem to get here at tfp these days, that made you & I feel "stupid", screw 'em if they can't handle a good ghost story. After all, Halloween is just around the corner.

Why let two bored dudes always "sink" possibly fun threads.

There are many pics on the Mansfield Reformatory Website (mrps dot com in case I cant post links).

The dead were buried on the grounds, the prison was self sufficient even growing their own food and raising farm animals. The prison is in the world records book for tallest freestanding cell block. Six tiers high on one side and five on the others.

The prison is a Castle. Falling apart slowly but fascinating none the less. They give tours on a regular basis, they have tours where you can spend the night roaming about freely with a flashlight or at the moment they are having "Haunted Reformatory Touors" where they ahve turned part of it into a haunted house.

I have gone and it was fantastic!

Wow my friend Justin works there at the huanted house on halloween or at least did for like the past 5-6 years. Small world.

OMG there was this guy on the "Demon" side that totally trash talked my future step-son it was SOOOOOOOOO funny because he was giving it back as good as the guy could dish it out. The guy deserves a raise!

The guy ended up calling him Polly Poopy Pants and the whole line of us roared with laughter. We are STILL calling him Polly!

I would jump at the chance to stay in a supposedly haunted place overnight. I'm a skeptic for sure, but totally open to the idea that there could be something going on. I've shared some unexplainable experiences, but even still, I'm not totally convinced those things were not the result of an overactive imagination.

Yeah I would definitely go and stay just to conform. I need to see proof with my own eyes. I've always been a believer, but I have yet to see with my own eyes. I think it'd be a great experience.

is it haunted, or is it just the energy that is in the room?

Its a castle... theres more like 3 floors. (If you were refering to my post if not please disregard)

I actively seekout "haunted" places because I am skeptical but open-minded. I have seen and felt things that I could not explain at the time, but I have also been freaked out and convinced by things that were later found to be mundane and normal. I am receptive to the idea that there may be a lot more out there than we acknowledge, and therefore am receptive to evidence that confirms or defies conventional wisdom.

If nothing else it is a good hobby :) You get to see all kinds of interesting places!

Well I'll tell ya. If I were doing a TV show about ghosts, and I wanted to gain credibility among those who think they're skeptical but who really will believe in ghosts at the drop of a hat, that's exactly how I'd do it. "debunk" a few famous hauntings and then find a supposedly real one.

It never ceases to amaze me that people won't believe the national and world stories they see on the news, but then go out and insist that an entertainment show is absolutely 100% real. Ghost Hunters is for *entertainment*. It's in the same category as Crossing Over. It's only as real as the producers want it to be.

People dearly want to believe in ghosts because if they were real it would offer proof that there is some sort of afterlife, and that when we die "we" aren't really gone. That gets all sorts of interesting results - such as the other thread around here somewhere where the OP has a bad light switch and immediately blamed the paranormal.

If you look hard enough, there isn't one single haunting out there that can't be explained by non-paranormal means.

I've done it several times. I belong to a paranormal investigative group, and have been on several investigations of haunted places. The supernatural/paranormal doesn't frighten me. I actively seek it out.

However, long before I became a "ghost hunter," friends of mine used to live in a haunted house. I never believed in "haunted" houses until I had two very convincing incidents happen to me there.

The first was when I was sitting at the dining room table, talking with my friend, Jim. He lit a cigarette and put down the Bic lighter in front of him on the table. The lighter than picked itself up and brought itself over to in front of me and laid itself down on the table. (I guess a ghostie thought I smoked. :P)

That's when I asked Jim if there was something he hadn't told me about the house. "Did I mention it's haunted?" he snarked. :P

A few weeks later, I was sitting at the same table with Jim's partner, Dan. We were watching TV and Dan was drinking a can of soda. He drank all the soda and put the can down on the table. It was about 4 inches away from my hand. The can then proceded to lift up into the air, about 3 feet high, stopped and hung in the air for a bit, then turned on its side, stayed in that position for a bit, then lowered itself back down on the table.

Dan and I both looked at the can and then at each other and shrugged, and then went back to watching TV. :)

Jim and Dan both told me lots of things that happened to them while they lived there, and other friends had experiences, also. So when people ask me if I believe in the paranormal, I say yes, because I no longer have "the luxury of disbelief." :)

I've lived in too many haunted houses, I prefer unhaunted, thanks.

I've been to the bird cage saloon around 1992. I also went to an allegedly haunted hotel and had several drinks at the bar.

Nope, didn't see nothing.

Actually saying something is haunted is a mind trick. They say a place is haunted you look for ghosts and if you see a ghost it is because you are "seeing what you want to see", it is an interrogators trick, and it works very good an dark torn apart areas.