Metallica Fans: Load & ReLoad - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

hawkeye · 05-24-2003, 06:56 PM

I only actually own s&m and the Black album, but I really like the songs that I have heard off of Load and ReLoad. Why does it seem that most Metallica fans hate those two albums?

mercury-hg · 05-25-2003, 01:59 AM

people hate those albums because they feel that metallica didn't stay true to their metal roots and sold out to the music industry. i try to take them as stand-alone works and judge them on their own merits. i think load's got some decent songs (really like hero of the day. bleeding me, outlaw torn) and reload is a little less consistent, but the constant hating on metallica is really tiresome.

Atomic Pinkie · 05-25-2003, 02:26 AM

amen to that mercury

I happen to like both of them, because i keep an OPEN MIND to my FAVORITE BAND because I TRUST THEM

Im not a fairweather fan like SOME people.

Atomic Pinkie · 05-25-2003, 02:27 AM

I own ever cd that Metallica has put out (mainstream, my single collection got stolen awhile back

)

Derwood · 05-25-2003, 07:36 AM

i think you could combine the best songs from both into one pretty good album, but i think ther eis a lot of filler

spectre · 05-25-2003, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mercury-hg
people hate those albums because they feel that metallica didn't stay true to their metal roots and sold out to the music industry. i try to take them as stand-alone works and judge them on their own merits. i think load's got some decent songs (really like hero of the day. bleeding me, outlaw torn) and reload is a little less consistent, but the constant hating on metallica is really tiresome.

I couldn't have said this any better myself. I prefer the older Metallica stuff, but I did enjoy some of Load and Reload, and I thought that the Black Album kicked ass.

archer2371 · 05-25-2003, 02:38 PM

Compared to Metallica's older stuff, Load and Reload aren't up to par to great albums like the Black Album, Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning, etc. But they are decent albums, songs like Hero of the Day and Fuel are pretty good, but still, not what I would consider their best albums.

sixate · 05-25-2003, 03:28 PM

Load and Reload are loads that should have been flushed down the toilet. Everything up to ....And Justice For All rules. After that they totally lost me. Their music is still good for a hard rock band, but the problem is they were the most badass metal band on the planet. I just didn't grow up with them I guess. I've heard 4 songs off of St Anger and it's actually pretty good. I was very surprised. I was expecting the same garbage that they've been puting out over the past 10 years. I want to hear the entire album before I say whether they went back to their roots.

WhoaitsZ · 05-25-2003, 05:50 PM

hmmm.. Metalica. i feel like i may get sued for just typing their name.

musicly , awesome up until load. that's just me, my bbother loved Load and Reload. but its not me.

i did like their Garage Inc cover songs. S&M never did anything for me and i'm trying to withhold judgement on St. Anger until i hear it all.

I wish i could find another cd music and lyricly like ... And justice For all.

as people, they suck. I admired all of them until they started suing random people for having the name metalica. i do not know what all lawsuits are true, but i've heard they've sued a perfume business and a mechanical shop.

the napster thing didn't bother me. everyone has an opinion. but going after anyone using the name Metallica is just fucking lame.

watch some of te making of material... lars is such an asshole. kirk seems okay, James seems decent but he's a bit too snobbish still.

Jason did the right thing, telling them bu-bye!

Atomic Pinkie · 05-26-2003, 03:11 AM

"I've heard 4 songs off of St Anger and it's actually pretty good."

Snippets or songs...?

They officially released snippets....

I can find a list of fake songs if you'd like...im sure doc wouldn't mind as well..they are ALL over the Metallica boards, I think some people keep em ready to paste when someone say I FOUND NEW METALLICA!??!?!??!

Whoa, did you even read the other posts?

rideough · 05-26-2003, 05:20 PM

justice kicked serious ass!!!
they WERE the most badass metal band but their music changed direction in a way that didn't suit my taste.
Don't get me wrong though, its not like they began to suck...they are still awesome musicians but i am not a fan of their work anymore.
in the end though, more people like them now them before the black album so they just became more accessible to the mainstream audience, they used to be underground and now my mother can name them all!!!

Derwood · 05-26-2003, 08:34 PM

It's hard to be 40 and as pissed off as your were when you were 20. Most bands mellow out a bit after 20 years. Or they breakup.

nate_dawg · 05-27-2003, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Derwood
It's hard to be 40 and as pissed off as your were when you were 20. Most bands mellow out a bit after 20 years. Or they breakup.

one word: SLAYER

440sixpack · 05-27-2003, 06:04 PM

I'll second that.

Doc_34465 · 06-03-2003, 09:39 PM

Aaack! I misses a Metallica thread! How dare me.. Ummm..

OK Shocker.. And Sorry AP..

Load lacked, but kind of grew on me, and Reload sucked totally.

The one thing you all should understand is that: 1) I am only 28 and: 2) I lived in the south east for all of 21 years of my life.. Metallica was rarely known here until after MOP around 87'. In 87' I was 12 years old, and not yet introduced to metal. It wasn't until 89', when I started sneaking into the local pool hall to shoot and play the box in the corner, that I got my first taste of 'Tallica.. It was One from Justice to be exact(I wore that mother fucker out).. I later started catching the vids from The Black Album, and was totally blown away by songs like Where Ever I May Roam, Sad But True, Nothing Else Matters, and Enter Sandman. (Side note: This is when I earned the tag Doc Psycho, now Doc. Real metal heads were rare here at the time, but I soon changed that.) I soon made friends who were a little older, had bands, and played allot of the old 'Tallica covers.. It was then that I really started learning about this great thing called Heavy Metal and Metallica. I also learned about allot of other things that I wont mention here, but will save for another thread.

Since that time, I have made it a point to learn all I could about Metallica, and everything and everyone that has made it so great. I owe Metallica allot, I may not be here today if not for James and the emotion that he pours into his music, and lyrics. I learned from him that there are others like myself that feel the same way about certain things. He felt rage, he hated, he hurt, and so did I. But instead of doing something stupid, he put it in his music.

Anyway.. My point is.. I wasn't around for the KEA, RTL, MOP, or even really AJFA. I did make it a point to catch up.. And I love the pre BA stuff, allot.. And even though I do feel that the BA was a bit commercial, I still think it kicked ass. My take on Load and Reload is Jason Newsted, inadvertently. I saw James trying to deny the fact that he was getting old, and he was trying to play up to the young kid, and prove that he could keep up. Jason wanted what Load and Reload became, and that was the Nirvana-ish crap that came out.. As I said, Load grew on me, but that's because of my generation.. I liked Nirvana.. I really liked the lyrics that James put into Load, but because I could relate to the ideas. Another thing is, James was also going through allot of personal shit at the time, one being his father passing away. Things like that can take a toll on a person. Another thing I can relate to. Reload was basically a bunch of stuff that didn't make it on Load, for obviously good reason.

Now.. St. Anger.. So far I have been able to hear most of it, and I must say, I like it.. It's just one big pile fucking, in your face, tell it like it is, kickass metal. It's different, it's new, and it's old. There are allot of new ideas in this.. Kirk and Lars actually wrote lyrics, and James loved it.. You will here an interview with James that comes with the package, where he says that they all started fresh.. No one came into the studio with their own little babies that no one could fuck with. They all added to the mix, and worked together. Just don't analyze this CD, listen for what it is. I think you'll like it.

I'm sorry for the rant.. I didn't intend to get this involved with this post. I just hope you all understand where I come from, and why I'm so involved with this band.

And PA, thanks man, I didn't think I had a friend out there..

Peace!

Atomic Pinkie · 06-04-2003, 01:52 AM

Amen to what you said bout tallica helpin ya out

For me, i started listening in 3rd grade....i haven't gone back to the other shit i had since.

05-24-2003, 06:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
hawkeye back from sabbatical Location: Mosptopia	Metallica Fans: Load & ReLoad I only actually own s&m and the Black album, but I really like the songs that I have heard off of Load and ReLoad. Why does it seem that most Metallica fans hate those two albums? __________________ You're not fat, You're just a giant ball of love, covered in anger.

05-25-2003, 02:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	amen to that mercury I happen to like both of them, because i keep an OPEN MIND to my FAVORITE BAND because I TRUST THEM Im not a fairweather fan like SOME people. __________________ Where dem bitches at?

05-25-2003, 02:27 AM	#4 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	I own ever cd that Metallica has put out (mainstream, my single collection got stolen awhile back ) __________________ Where dem bitches at?

05-25-2003, 07:36 AM	#5 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	i think you could combine the best songs from both into one pretty good album, but i think ther eis a lot of filler __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

05-25-2003, 02:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
archer2371 Sarge of Blood Gulch Red Outpost Number One Location: On the front lines against our very enemy	Compared to Metallica's older stuff, Load and Reload aren't up to par to great albums like the Black Album, Master of Puppets, Ride the Lightning, etc. But they are decent albums, songs like Hero of the Day and Fuel are pretty good, but still, not what I would consider their best albums. __________________ "This ain't no Ice Cream Social!" "Hey Grif, Chupathingy...how bout that? I like it...got a ring to it." "I have no earthly idea what it is I just saw, or what this place is, or where in the hell O'Malley is! My only choice is to blame Grif for coming up with such a flawed plan. Stupid, stupid Grif."

05-25-2003, 01:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
mercury-hg Psycho Location: U of MD	people hate those albums because they feel that metallica didn't stay true to their metal roots and sold out to the music industry. i try to take them as stand-alone works and judge them on their own merits. i think load's got some decent songs (really like hero of the day. bleeding me, outlaw torn) and reload is a little less consistent, but the constant hating on metallica is really tiresome.

05-25-2003, 03:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
sixate Registered User Location: Somewhere in Ohio	Load and Reload are loads that should have been flushed down the toilet. Everything up to ....And Justice For All rules. After that they totally lost me. Their music is still good for a hard rock band, but the problem is they were the most badass metal band on the planet. I just didn't grow up with them I guess. I've heard 4 songs off of St Anger and it's actually pretty good. I was very surprised. I was expecting the same garbage that they've been puting out over the past 10 years. I want to hear the entire album before I say whether they went back to their roots.

05-25-2003, 05:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	hmmm.. Metalica. i feel like i may get sued for just typing their name. musicly , awesome up until load. that's just me, my bbother loved Load and Reload. but its not me. i did like their Garage Inc cover songs. S&M never did anything for me and i'm trying to withhold judgement on St. Anger until i hear it all. I wish i could find another cd music and lyricly like ... And justice For all. as people, they suck. I admired all of them until they started suing random people for having the name metalica. i do not know what all lawsuits are true, but i've heard they've sued a perfume business and a mechanical shop. the napster thing didn't bother me. everyone has an opinion. but going after anyone using the name Metallica is just fucking lame. watch some of te making of material... lars is such an asshole. kirk seems okay, James seems decent but he's a bit too snobbish still. Jason did the right thing, telling them bu-bye!

05-26-2003, 03:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	"I've heard 4 songs off of St Anger and it's actually pretty good." Snippets or songs...? They officially released snippets.... I can find a list of fake songs if you'd like...im sure doc wouldn't mind as well..they are ALL over the Metallica boards, I think some people keep em ready to paste when someone say I FOUND NEW METALLICA!??!?!??! Whoa, did you even read the other posts? __________________ Where dem bitches at?

05-26-2003, 05:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
rideough Insane Location: Ottawa...the greatest city in Canada...down the road from silentjay!	justice kicked serious ass!!! they WERE the most badass metal band but their music changed direction in a way that didn't suit my taste. Don't get me wrong though, its not like they began to suck...they are still awesome musicians but i am not a fan of their work anymore. in the end though, more people like them now them before the black album so they just became more accessible to the mainstream audience, they used to be underground and now my mother can name them all!!! __________________ i may or may not be on acid right now....

05-26-2003, 08:34 PM	#12 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	It's hard to be 40 and as pissed off as your were when you were 20. Most bands mellow out a bit after 20 years. Or they breakup. __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

05-27-2003, 06:04 PM	#14 (permalink)
440sixpack Lord of All Fevers and Plagues Location: Brockton, MA	I'll second that. __________________ Be a victor, or be a victim - David Vincent My Toys: 1970 Dodge Challenger R/T 440SIXPACK 2003 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT QuadCab 4x4 5.7L Hemi Magnum

06-03-2003, 09:39 PM	#15 (permalink)
Doc_34465 Psycho Location: Inverness, Fl.	Aaack! I misses a Metallica thread! How dare me.. Ummm.. OK Shocker.. And Sorry AP.. Load lacked, but kind of grew on me, and Reload sucked totally. The one thing you all should understand is that: 1) I am only 28 and: 2) I lived in the south east for all of 21 years of my life.. Metallica was rarely known here until after MOP around 87'. In 87' I was 12 years old, and not yet introduced to metal. It wasn't until 89', when I started sneaking into the local pool hall to shoot and play the box in the corner, that I got my first taste of 'Tallica.. It was One from Justice to be exact(I wore that mother fucker out).. I later started catching the vids from The Black Album, and was totally blown away by songs like Where Ever I May Roam, Sad But True, Nothing Else Matters, and Enter Sandman. (Side note: This is when I earned the tag Doc Psycho, now Doc. Real metal heads were rare here at the time, but I soon changed that.) I soon made friends who were a little older, had bands, and played allot of the old 'Tallica covers.. It was then that I really started learning about this great thing called Heavy Metal and Metallica. I also learned about allot of other things that I wont mention here, but will save for another thread. Since that time, I have made it a point to learn all I could about Metallica, and everything and everyone that has made it so great. I owe Metallica allot, I may not be here today if not for James and the emotion that he pours into his music, and lyrics. I learned from him that there are others like myself that feel the same way about certain things. He felt rage, he hated, he hurt, and so did I. But instead of doing something stupid, he put it in his music. Anyway.. My point is.. I wasn't around for the KEA, RTL, MOP, or even really AJFA. I did make it a point to catch up.. And I love the pre BA stuff, allot.. And even though I do feel that the BA was a bit commercial, I still think it kicked ass. My take on Load and Reload is Jason Newsted, inadvertently. I saw James trying to deny the fact that he was getting old, and he was trying to play up to the young kid, and prove that he could keep up. Jason wanted what Load and Reload became, and that was the Nirvana-ish crap that came out.. As I said, Load grew on me, but that's because of my generation.. I liked Nirvana.. I really liked the lyrics that James put into Load, but because I could relate to the ideas. Another thing is, James was also going through allot of personal shit at the time, one being his father passing away. Things like that can take a toll on a person. Another thing I can relate to. Reload was basically a bunch of stuff that didn't make it on Load, for obviously good reason. Now.. St. Anger.. So far I have been able to hear most of it, and I must say, I like it.. It's just one big pile fucking, in your face, tell it like it is, kickass metal. It's different, it's new, and it's old. There are allot of new ideas in this.. Kirk and Lars actually wrote lyrics, and James loved it.. You will here an interview with James that comes with the package, where he says that they all started fresh.. No one came into the studio with their own little babies that no one could fuck with. They all added to the mix, and worked together. Just don't analyze this CD, listen for what it is. I think you'll like it. I'm sorry for the rant.. I didn't intend to get this involved with this post. I just hope you all understand where I come from, and why I'm so involved with this band. And PA, thanks man, I didn't think I had a friend out there.. Peace! __________________ "Badgers?!? We don't need no stinking Badgers!!" "Now.. The mushrooms? Yeah, I'll have some more!" Does he have a name? Can I name him Dancey Mcgee? Spinach_Indeed

06-04-2003, 01:52 AM	#16 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	Amen to what you said bout tallica helpin ya out For me, i started listening in 3rd grade....i haven't gone back to the other shit i had since. __________________ Where dem bitches at?