02-02-2005, 12:30 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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Albums From Beginging To End
There are some albums that are just a set of songs and then there are albums that are a single cohesive album where each song fits with the other and the a,bum is arranged in the proper order. In these albums no single song is necessarily a hit yet as an album all toghether they rival any hit song anyday. Songs in these types of albums flow one into the other as if a story is being told.
I am talking about albums where there is not a single song that does not fit the album. Do you know what I am talking about? Do you have any albums that you feel fit this description? Albums that I consider in this category are: Pink Floyd - Dark Side of The Moon Radiohead - OK Computer Radiohead - Kid A
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02-02-2005, 01:22 PM | #4 (permalink) |
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Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
Genesis - The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway Marillion - Brave there are lots of albums that i would put in this category, but then i'm not the kind of guy to skip around when listening to music. i generally put a CD on and listen all the way through. that is changing a bit as i just recently got an MP3 player (and currently have about 70% of my CD collection encoded and loaded on it) and i've been enjoying doing the shuffle thing on it. it's like a radio station that only plays stuff i like... |
02-02-2005, 03:17 PM | #7 (permalink) |
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yes yes:
Tool - Lateralus The Mars Volta - DeLoused In The Comatorium Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral Nine Inch Nails - The Fragile (well, almost every song fits)
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02-02-2005, 03:40 PM | #9 (permalink) |
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Whoa!
Yep! The term for these are "concept albums", where the whole thing comes together around one central theme. In the past 2 or so days I've listened to: -Dark Side of the Moon -Radio KAOS -Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence -Kid A ...all of which have been mentioned in this thread already. Plus Amnesiac and Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking. And yes all of those are definitely best listened to in album format. They're more like 50 minute long songs. If I have Winamp on shuffle mode and a song out of one of these comes up, I usually either just skip it or put the whole album on. It's not the same otherwise. |
02-02-2005, 04:43 PM | #11 (permalink) |
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It doesn't have to be just a "concept album" for an overarching story to emerge from the songs. For instance, U2's album "Achtung Baby" isn't a concept album, but the songs definitely tell a story of sorts from beginning to end.
My favorite true concept album, though, would have to be Floater's "Angels in the Flesh and Devils in the Bone."
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02-02-2005, 05:34 PM | #12 (permalink) |
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Harry Cox - 2112 doesn't all hang together, and neither does Hemispheres. On Vinyl, each of these have one side that is one long song - 2112 and Cygnus XI respectively, and the other side is assorted (though still rockin').
This was a big thing for Progressive Rock. Jethro Tull was mentioned for "Thick as a Brick", which is basically three or four songs interwoven and presented in two tracks with a sort of musical meltdown in the middle to make for a smoother side change on vinyl. (Can't neglect the effect the LP had on this kind of thing.) Also they put out "A Passion Play", which is the same sort of thing, except instead of several interesting themes, interwoven for 45 minutes, it's 35 minutes of noodling followed by two really nifty bits. Basically follows Milton's "Paradise Lost", and Satan is definitely the interesting part. Also, more in the vein of wwhat is being discussed, "Aqualung". While not telling a story per se, each song either goes directly into the next, or there are transitional, interlude type tracks, "Wond'ring Aloud" is the perfect example. Yes has some albums like this too. "Relayer" and "Tales from Topographic Oceans" really don't make any sense except as whole albums. "Fragile" has some of that feel to it too. I wouldn't say that Most Floyd albums fit the bill so much as the more dominant Roger Waters became in the band, the more concept driven ther Albums became. "Animals", "Wish you Were Here", "Dark Side", of course "The Wall", and "The Final Cut" all hang together perfectly. There're also the two soundtracks, "More" and "Obscured by Clouds", but I don't know if soundtracks really count, and these don't really hang together without the movies they go with, though they are great listening. "Obscured by Clouds" is almost certainly my favorite Floyd album. Roger Waters continues this in his solo career. "KAOS" has been mentioned. (Caught the second show of that tour in Hartford. Blew my mind, and I was a total straight-edge geek at the time.) "Amused to Death" is even more the concept album. Closer to "Thick as a Brick" than "Dark Side". "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" was mentioned, but all early Genesis has some of this tendency, particularly "Selling England by the Pound". Once they lost Peter Gabriel, they began their long slide into pop endign with "We Can't Dance", but, surprisingly, some of that epic scope showed up in "their penultimate effort, "Invisible Touch", not enough to make it a concept album, but enough to show that they hadn't lost everything. "Joe's Garage" is the story album of Zappa's that is best known, but "The Grand Wazoo", "Thing Fish", and "Frank Zappa vs the Mothers of Prevention" are all album length stories. Less obvious, but hannging together every bit as well are "You are What you Is" and "Apostrophe" and the latter seems to flow almost perfectly into "Overnite Sensation." I remember one chemically saturated evening when a half dozen of my buddies and I put "Apostrophe/Overnite" on and sang the whole frickin thing, beginning to end, with backing vocals, harmonies, the whole 9 yards. Maybe I am going to get smacked down on this next one, but, upon repeated listens, Cake's "Comfort Eagle" hangs together and flows song to song every bit as well as "Dark Side" or "Aqualung". I hate to bring this up, but Styx, "Kilroy was Here" is nothing but a kitsch laden and badly executed concept album. Now what I can't believe is that I am going to be the first one (unless someone chimed in while I was scibing this apparently endless missive) to mention "Tommy" and "Quadrophrenia". Say what you will about The Who - I don't much care for them myself - but they surely made the rock opera happen with those two. There are more, I know there are, but the night is growing crows feet, and the maids are coming tomorrow so, according to flawlessly incomprehensible female logic, we must clean this evening.
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02-02-2005, 07:02 PM | #14 (permalink) |
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Edit: Didn't read the post well enough be back when I think some more
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02-02-2005, 07:09 PM | #15 (permalink) |
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Well since I'm on such a huge Opeth kick right now....
Opeth - Still Life : a concept album about a man who is exiled then returns after some years to get his woman back. Tragity ensues. Opeth - My Arms, Your Hearse: another concept album about a man (who dies) and watches and *interacts* with his loved ones, especially his widow. Tragity ensues. Opeth - Blackwater Park: not really a concept album completely... but there is somewhat of a theme to the album. Tragity also ensues. And of course, the classic Lateralus by Tool. |
02-02-2005, 07:33 PM | #17 (permalink) |
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I listen to most CDs all the way through. If it's not enjoyable that way, then I usually don't listen to it much at all. I feel all well crafted albums should sound like all the songs belong together. The bands I enjoys most have albums that all sound cohesive, yet each album sounds different from each other. Some of my faves: Zeppelin, Dylan, Prince, Gabriel (and Gabriel era Genesis), Bowie, Radiohead, Beck... amonst others, but these guys sound like they put alot of effort into making an album sound like an ... album.
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Boston - Third Stage The Who - Tommy Triumph - Thunder 7 Steely Dan - AJA Edit: looks like I wasn't the first for "Tommy", but I add my vote.
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02-02-2005, 07:48 PM | #19 (permalink) |
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Holy shit...Is anyone here from the Philly/West Chester PA area? The greatest album to come out of the greater Philadelphia area ever!! ALISON RANGER'S FORMULA IMPERATIVE. It's amazing, it seems to be telling the story of someone drowning, but the band won't be forward about it...also my girlfriend plays violin on several tracks and our bandmate plays cello. check it out if you can!
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02-04-2005, 11:59 AM | #25 (permalink) |
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Of course all the Floyd, but some other Prog. Rock:
The Moody Blues' Days of Future Passed Rick Wakeman's Journey to the Center of the Earth Soul album: Isaac Hayes' Hot Buttered Soul Funk: Parliament's Funkentelechy Vs. the Placebo Syndrome Hip Hop: Dr. Dre's The Chronic RJD2's Deadringer Classical: Beethoven's 9th Symphony, you're doing yourself a disservice if all you've ever heard is the last movement. This thing is meant to build on itself and when it finally reaches the choral sections at the end, well, damn.
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02-04-2005, 12:01 PM | #26 (permalink) |
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I dont know that I have anything new to add, since so many have already expressed my opinion here.
Pink Floyd - Dark Side Of The Moon Tool - Lateralus and Ænima The Mars Volta - De-loused In The Comatorium Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral Opeth - Blackwater Park (The only CD I own by them; I'll remedy that soon) |
02-04-2005, 01:02 PM | #27 (permalink) |
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The Band - Music from Big Pink
The Band - The Band Van Morrison - Moondance That's about it in terms of full albums. Lots of songs really are just filler. :P
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02-04-2005, 04:53 PM | #28 (permalink) | |
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02-04-2005, 05:12 PM | #29 (permalink) |
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Ziggy Stardust - Bowie
Electric Ladyland - Hendrix Blood on the Track - Dylan Miles Ahead - Miles Davis Sheik Yerbootti - Zappa
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02-04-2005, 05:35 PM | #30 (permalink) |
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I like how the songs on Massive Attack's "Protection" are sequenced. Imagine it on a vinyl album (or cassette, I guess). The first song on each side is sung by Tracy Thorn, the second song on each side has vocals (can't really call it singing) by Tricky, the third songs are sung by Nicolette, the fourth songs are instumentals, and the last song on each side is sung by Horace Andy. I always thought that was pretty cool.
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02-04-2005, 10:34 PM | #31 (permalink) |
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Dredg - El Cielo
Dredg - Leit Motif and also, I have to say that though Kid A and OK Computer flow extremely well, The Bends was Radiohead's most cohesive album (in my opinion). with that said, I love them all the same.
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02-05-2005, 03:43 PM | #34 (permalink) |
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wow it took awhile for anybody to mention Sgt. pepper...
I would also like to add that the Yoshimi album begins as these cohesive albums but breaks off a bit. Daft Punk - Discovery (it's somewhat cleaerer from the movie Intersteller 555)
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02-06-2005, 12:58 AM | #36 (permalink) |
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Armor For Sleep - Dream To Make Believe
Armor For Sleep - What to Do When You're Dead Both of Armor For Sleep's albums are concept albums; all of the songs on the first album are based on a series of dreams that the lead singer had. The second album's songs are designed to portray that the "character" in the first CD wasn't actually dreaming, he was dying, and what happens after he realizes this. Taken on their own, each song is seemingly a typical song about lost love, or loneliness, or fear, etc., but when they're put together you can see a story beginning to emerge. I highly recommend them. |
02-06-2005, 02:08 AM | #37 (permalink) |
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Several great albums mentioned already.
I would add Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime, Dimmu Borgir's Enthrone Darkness Triumphant and Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia and albums, Ayreon's Human Equation (or any of his really), Sonata Arctica's The Reckoning and Winterheart's Guild. |
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02-06-2005, 01:21 PM | #39 (permalink) |
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The Love Below - Outkast
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