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tecoyah 01-13-2005 06:45 PM

Tilted Musicians Unite
 
As requested....A place to slam roadies and discuss what clubs suck to play.

K-Wise 01-13-2005 06:56 PM

Better than nothin! :D :thumbsup:

Asta!!

MacGuyver 01-13-2005 08:05 PM

Also a new place to find ...

musicians in massachusetts! anybody?

K-Wise 01-13-2005 08:17 PM

That could be a name for a band. Musicians In Massachusetts..could be called M.I.M. for short.

Asta!!

kulrblind 01-18-2005 11:53 AM

Hmm... still unclear as to the purpose of the thread/sticky, but I'll ask:

Any (electric) bassists about? I've just started taking lessons, but would love some helpful tips!

Zephyr66 01-19-2005 02:19 PM

I'm in the same boat as you, just started bass, since drumming wasnt my forté
I also write MIDIs if anyones interested, I posted one in tiled literature

Glory's Sun 01-20-2005 09:06 AM

what about dj's? Do we count? if it doesn't what about making music via Reason or another program does that count??

thespian86 01-20-2005 09:27 AM

I'm a guitar player.... anyone needs help or wants to discuss then PM me!

vanblah 01-20-2005 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guccilvr
what about dj's? Do we count? if it doesn't what about making music via Reason or another program does that count??

DJ's count in my opinion. I don't know if we want to start critiquing mashups ... but it's all music to me.

Anyway, here is my first contribution. It's a repeat of a post I made several weeks ago asking for critiques, but it got buried in a matter of hours:

http://www.chessclubrocks.com/songs/leche.mp3

http://www.chessclubrocks.com/songs/apes.mp3

These songs would fall into the large category of "POP."

Doug

Glory's Sun 01-20-2005 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanblah
DJ's count in my opinion. I don't know if we want to start critiquing mashups ... but it's all music to me.

Anyway, here is my first contribution. It's a repeat of a post I made several weeks ago asking for critiques, but it got buried in a matter of hours:

http://www.chessclubrocks.com/songs/leche.mp3

http://www.chessclubrocks.com/songs/apes.mp3

These songs would fall into the large category of "POP."

Doug

well I'm not a mashup dj so we won't have to worry about that one.. I'll have to give those mp3's a listen in a few.. I'll check back with ya when I get a chance to listen to them a few times. :thumbsup:

K-Wise 01-20-2005 06:10 PM

Listening to Leche right now. I like it a lot...wow...I love yer voice man. I can picture myself singing along to this and probably will if that means anything to you. You guys got a pretty good sound. Influences? Sux it got burried. If I had seen it I would have replied you know this haha. Nice note towards the end...and now a guitar solo...I like. Wow great song man. I especially like the organs? On the intro and outro very beautiful...okay now onto Apes

Hmm this one sounds fun...already it reminds me a little of Weezer or something like that...Jimmy Eat World maybe. Haha catchy...reminds me of good ol 80's music kinda. Oh I like the piano riffs. Cool I liked that one too. They are now in my i-Tunes :D

Great stuff man got any more? Not sure I could provide any form of advice or suggestions so to speak...didn't really find anything wrong with them. I'm sure thats what you were hoping for though..sorry can't help ya there. Sure someone else will though.

Asta!!

Lak 01-21-2005 08:29 AM

I wanna learn the harmonica, they're fucking cool, can anyone here play?

Do they come in all keys?
If not, can I get D minor?
Can you get chromatic ones?
How much would expect to pay?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer these for me :)

vanblah 01-21-2005 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lak
I wanna learn the harmonica, they're fucking cool, can anyone here play?

Do they come in all keys?
If not, can I get D minor?
Can you get chromatic ones?
How much would expect to pay?

Thanks in advance to anyone who can answer these for me :)

They do come in various keys and modes. Check out http://www.hohnerusa.com/harmonicas.htm.

How much do you want to pay? You can get them for a couple of bucks or several hundred.

vanblah 01-21-2005 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by K-Wise
Listening to Leche right now. I like it a lot...wow...I love yer voice man.

Thanks for the kind words ... but that's not me singing lead. I do some of the background vocals. I'm the keyboard player/arranger/theory snob in the band.

Quote:

Great stuff man got any more?
We go back in the studio in March. I do have some that I recorded at home ... but they are pre-pre production.

Doug

Lak 01-21-2005 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanblah
They do come in various keys and modes. Check out http://www.hohnerusa.com/harmonicas.htm.

How much do you want to pay? You can get them for a couple of bucks or several hundred.

Hey cool, thanks man.

Fourtyrulz 01-22-2005 02:00 PM

Quote:

I wanna learn the harmonica, they're fucking cool, can anyone here play?
I've been playing for a few months now, maybe I can pass off some stuff I've learned:

Do they come in all keys? Yep! You can get practically every key in a diatonic harmonica or you can buy chromatic ones. Most people recommend starting out with a C major harp for learning purposes, but if your goal is play some songs right off the bat get a G, D, A or whatever key you need.
How much would expect to pay? A professional Honer harmonica will cost you no more than about 35 bucks, depending on where you get it. But there are lots of different brands and each have a different sound. The best advice I can give is: Don't start off with a cheapo! You will end up frustrated as hell if you get a cheap plastic toy one, spend the extra 20 bucks now to avoid the aggravation.

Hint: It's not as easy as the pros make it out to be, so don't quit right away. With some practice you can learn to play anything under the sun.

Here's some good websites to help you start out:

http://coast2coastmusic.com/general/learn.shtml
http://www.harmonicaclub.com/common/lessons.htm#1
http://www.volcano.net/~jackmearl/ <---This last site is kind of a hokey "harmonica tab" site but has some easy, cool sounding songs to play. Good luck!

Edit: On the Honer site than vanblah posted, the Diatonic Special 20's and Marine Band brands are the best bang for your buck.

Lak 01-22-2005 04:21 PM

Whoa, extensive, thanks FR.
I'd probably get a simple one for learning, probably C major, but my goal is to use it in my band, and we play with drop D instruments and so usually end up in D minor. So in theory I'd need a harp to play Dm, or D blues or something similar (if I could throw a flat fifth in there I'd be loving it :)). My musical theory isnt quite strong enough to work out which harps I could do this on, but I think there'd be at least diatonic harp that wasn't Dminor that I could play Dminor on, or I could just get a chromatic one I suppose.
After a glance in the net, it definately looks trickier that I first imagined... ah well the bigger the rewards I suppose :)
Thanks again for your input all.

Fourtyrulz 01-23-2005 11:04 AM

Here's also a really good website for cross-harp, which is used mainly in blues and rock compared to folk. Some of it requires basic music theory knowledge, but coast2coast does a good job of making it easy.

http://www.coast2coastmusic.com/diat...oss_harp.shtml

vanblah 01-25-2005 12:46 PM

So, what about collaboration? Anybody want to try it?

Who has the ability to record music with PC or Mac? What are your skills?

I have been involved in online music collaborations before. They've been fairly successful but I want to reach a different group of people.

---


Me:

Keyboards/Synth/Piano any style

I can record up to 8 tracks (although I rarely need more than 4) at a time. I have yet to push my computer past it's limit (24 tracks and counting).

Fourtyrulz 01-25-2005 03:01 PM

That sounds cool. I've seen 'em before but never contributed at all.

I could contribute electric/acoustic guitar (and harmonica :D ) in a lot of different styles, and my roomie might be able to do vocals depending on the style. Tracks wouldn't be a problem either.

feelinlucky 01-25-2005 04:08 PM

Drummer over 30 yrs here. I also play some guitar and violin. Been in numerous Chi Town bands in the 70's and 80's. Hard rock and Blues .. :cool:

roachboy 01-25-2005 04:24 PM

would this be the spot in which to plug upcoming gigs and such?

vanblah 01-25-2005 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachboy
would this be the spot in which to plug upcoming gigs and such?


I guess ... the only problem I have with a sticky thread like this is that I foresee it growing out of control pretty quickly.

Maybe we could request a gigs sticky and a collaboration sticky (if enough people are interested).

Fourtyrulz 01-25-2005 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachboy
would this be the spot in which to plug upcoming gigs and such?

Might as well be.

For those of you in bands, what's the best way of getting one together in college? I was in a few bands throughout high school but coming up here changes the whole "jamming" dynamic. Any tips?

vanblah 01-26-2005 08:34 AM

Quote:

For those of you in bands, what's the best way of getting one together in college? I was in a few bands throughout high school but coming up here changes the whole "jamming" dynamic. Any tips?
It's pretty much the same. You need to find a place to practice and surround yourself with people who have the desire to play. It's funny but I found that early college kids were LESS disciplined about getting together than older college kids.

roachboy 01-26-2005 08:50 AM

improvisation can become a really complex game if you move out from the idea of "jamming"---running into players who approach it from different angles/backgrounds can be one of the most interesting things about being in a university space. i would look at it as an excuse to push your horizons, your abilities. fool around with making constraints. copy a kandinsky painting and use it as a score. get a copy of cornelius cardew's "treatise" and try to figure out how to play it. abandon reliance on chord changes. train yourself into "dissonance"


btw, i posted a list of upcoming performances in my journal. have a look.

K-Wise 01-28-2005 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vanblah
I guess ... the only problem I have with a sticky thread like this is that I foresee it growing out of control pretty quickly.

Maybe we could request a gigs sticky and a collaboration sticky (if enough people are interested).

They're already up :D. I'd suggest a "Tilted Emcees" but theres like MAYBE..3 of us total here haha be kind of a dead thread.

Asta!!

K-Wise 01-29-2005 09:53 PM

Oh..nevermind.

Asta!!

vanblah 01-31-2005 07:36 AM

Quote:

They're already up . I'd suggest a "Tilted Emcees" but theres like MAYBE..3 of us total here haha be kind of a dead thread.
Posted before the new threads existed ... and then didn't exist.

vanblah 02-01-2005 09:33 AM

Any Memphis locals out there? My band has a gig this Friday (February 4th) at The Buccaneer starting around 10:30 ...

jonjon42 02-01-2005 02:45 PM

I just wish to know one thing...is their a airport in the US that won't have some asshole security guy threaten to confiscate my extra strings (violin) when taking it by plane..and possibly one that knows the rules about musical instruments as carry-on (ie. I really should be present when they examine, handle with care... etc.) gar!...it's maddening...

Fourtyrulz 02-01-2005 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonjon42
I just wish to know one thing...is their a airport in the US that won't have some asshole security guy threaten to confiscate my extra strings (violin) when taking it by plane..and possibly one that knows the rules about musical instruments as carry-on (ie. I really should be present when they examine, handle with care... etc.) gar!...it's maddening...

While there isn't a specific law that gives musicians rights to carry on their instrument, if you know the airlines policies in advance and let them search the baggage in front of you there should be no problem with carrying on your violin. A long time ago I actually found a page that had a print out of a legislation that was printable and designed for you to show to the airline but I can't find it now. I'm sure if you did a more thourough search you could find it.

But I did dig up some good sites: http://www.booklivemusic.com/news/10...e_Security.pdf and http://www.menc.org/information/info...musicians.html
Quote:

The Coalition in Support of Musical Instruments as Carry on Baggage led by the American Federation of Musicians has petitioned the Congress to address this issue. Section 135 of S. 1447, the Aviation and Transportation Security Act of 2001 outlines the will of the United States House of Representatives that the new Under Secretary of Transportation for Aviation Security develop new regulations as a remedy to inconsistent treatment of musicians and their instruments. This important provision of the act reads as follows: S. 1447 Aviation and Transportation Security Act of 2001, Relating to Public Law 107-71 Page 41, Section 135

SENSE OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES
It is a sense of the House of Representatives that
(1) the Under Secretary of Transportation for Security should develop security procedures to allow passengers transporting a musical instrument on a flight of an air carrier to transport the instrument in the passenger cabin of the aircraft, notwithstanding any size or other restriction on carry-on baggage but subject to such other reasonable terms and conditions as may be established by the Under Secretary or the air carrier, including imposing additional charges by the air carrier.
I'm not sure if law got passed or not since 2001, but it's worth checking out!

Fly 02-02-2005 06:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachboy
improvisation can become a really complex game if you move out from the idea of "jamming".......... train yourself into "dissonance"



you my friend are a smart man......:thumbsup:


i play drums, bass and guitar......

we write and record all our own stuff..........mandolins,banjos,harmonicas,synths....hell we use just about anything we can find......

pawn shops usually have some fairly "out there" instruments.........i'm working on a collection of different kinds lately.........

roachboy 02-02-2005 08:04 AM

heh heh--thanks, sir.

btw, if any comrades are near philadelphia
please consider the following performance options
look here:

www.clairaudient.org

under the news link
the lovely e-poster
can be seen by clicking on the thumbnails.

deteriorate series

clairaudient is doing a new live soundtrack for bill morrison's film "decasia" sunday, 6 feb. at 2 pm.
windsleepers--the poetry-oriented element of the collective--is doing a reading 7 feb at 7 pm which is linked directly to the decasia performance.

logistical details at the website.
pm me for more exact directions etc.

02-02-2005 08:16 AM

http://www.purevolume.com/yakdance
I did some of the background "Oh Oh Oh Oh's" vocals on the song Happy Healthy Humans. I'm working with these guys on some post production stuff, and potentially some live effects work right now.

roachboy 02-02-2005 09:03 AM

sos tonic new york city:

http://www.tonicnyc.com/

this is one of the best spaces in the states for experimental music
and it is facing eviction.
there are not anywhere near enough venues in the states that support these various scenes: losing tonic would be a huge blow to all of us, musicians and audiences alike,
do what you can.

jonjon42 02-05-2005 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roachboy
sos tonic new york city:

http://www.tonicnyc.com/

this is one of the best spaces in the states for experimental music
and it is facing eviction.
there are not anywhere near enough venues in the states that support these various scenes: losing tonic would be a huge blow to all of us, musicians and audiences alike,
do what you can.

WHAT!!!
I can't believe it...donated.... :eek:

vanblah 02-08-2005 12:57 PM

OK. So I'm in Memphis. Anyone interested in a little regional gig swapping? You can listen to the MP3's I've posted and let me know if you think you'd be a good fit.

We'd go as far as Chicago, New Orleans, Atlanta and Oklahoma City. Can't get much further than that on a weekend warrior type gig.

My band, Chess Club, has been described as a cross between Pixies and Velvet Underground. Whatever ... I call it Pop-Noir.

Doug

roachboy 02-09-2005 12:03 PM

looking for feedback....

my group did a new soundtrack for the film decasia (pr stuff posted earlier) and now the recording is up...if you have an hour or so to space out and/or listen, please check it out:

www.clairaudient.org

check under the performance link

i am not the one to be able to make evaluations of this kind of thing--i am pleased with the outcome, particularly the second half (because it is moving into new space for us)--i think it works apart from the film (i am more sure that it works with it)---so let me know what you make of it.

btw: the set was done with a volume constraint. you can play it at the levels you like, but live is was much less loud than we usually are.
loud is good, you see.
less loud is also good, but requires more control.
because loud is *that* good.

vanblah 02-10-2005 08:45 AM

Keyboard players ... what amps do you use? I'm tired of lugging around my set up and want to consolidate.

Currently I play through two JBL EON 10's crossed-over to an EV sb121 sub. using a Behringer Composer as the crossover and a Rolls 6-ch. line mixer.

I just want one amplifier in the 200W range. Going MONO!!!

Doug

PS - Anyone want to buy some self-powered speakers and other equipment?


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