VH1's The 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

omega2K4 · 08-27-2004, 10:10 AM

Did anyone else see this on TV last night? It was like 5 episodes @ 1 hour each. Here's the full list.

100.) Quiet Riot
99.) Bad Brains
98.) Mountain
97.) Primus
96.) Meat Loaf
95.) Fugazi
94.) Yes
93.) Lenny Kravitz <--- HOW THE FUCK IS HE ON THE LIST!?!@?
92.) The Black Crowes
91.) Danzig
90.) Rainbow
89.) Lita Ford
88.) Tool
87.) King Crimson
86.) Foreigner
85.) Whitesnake
84.) UFO
83.) King's X
82.) Queensryche
81.) The Pixies
80.) Green Day
79.) Ratt
78.) Marilyn Manson
77.) Hole
76.) Bon Jovi
75.) Spinal Tap
74.) Pat Benatar
73.) Twisted Sister
72.) Foo Fighters
71.) Lynyrd Skynyrd
70.) Living Colour
69.) Megadeth
68.) Hüsker Dü
67.) The Rolling Stones
66.) Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
65.) The Cult
64.) Steppenwolf
63.) Boston
62.) Ministry
61.) Jethro Tull
60.) The New York Dolls
59.) Bad Company
58.) Anthrax
57.) Heart
56.) Rob Zombie/White Zombie
55.) Blue Öyster Cult
54.) Sonic Youth
53.) Korn <------WHAT. THE. FUCK!?!?
52.) Faith No More
51.) Thin Lizzy
50.) Slayer
49.) The Smashing Pumpkins
48.) Janis Joplin
47.) The Rollins Band
46.) The Scorpions
45.) Pantera
44.) ZZ Top
43.) Nine Inch Nails
42.) The Kinks
41.) Ted Nugent
40.) Stone Temple Pilots
39.) Crazy Horse
38.) MC5
37.) The Yardbirds
36.) Frank Zappa
35.) Jane's Addiction
34.) Alice in Chains
33.) Rage Against The Machine
32.) The Doors
31.) Def Leppard
30.) Red Hot Chili Peppers
29.) Mötley Crüe
28.) Rush
27.) Iggy Pop
26.) Motörhead
25.) Cheap Trick
24.) Iron Maiden
23.) Judas Priest
22.) Deep Purple
21.) Pearl Jam
20.) Alice Cooper
19.) The Clash
18.) Ozzy Osbourne
17.) The Ramones
16.) Cream
15.) Pink Floyd
14.) Soundgarden
13.) Queen
12.) The Sex Pistols
11.) Aerosmith
10.) Kiss
9.) Guns N' Roses
8.) The Who
7.) Van Halen
6.) Nirvana <----How the fuck did they get in the top 10, let alone the top 100?
5.) Metallica
4.) AC/DC
3.) Jimi Hendrix
2.) Black Sabbath
1.) Led Zeppelin

Who do you think should and/or should not be on this list?

I think Lenny Kravitz, Korn, and Nirvana should not be on this list at all. Putting their no talent asses on this list is a disgrace to all of the other great bands. I also think Foreigner, Boston, Tool, Blue Öyster Cult, and Lynyrd Skynyrd should definitely be higher in the list.

BigGov · 08-27-2004, 10:46 AM

It's VH1. You expected a good list?

God of Thunder · 08-27-2004, 11:47 AM

10.) Kiss <------Damn right!!!

But above:
13.) Queen
28.) Rush &
24.) Iron Maiden????

VH1's lists have never really made any sense to me.

I think it is funny that Spinal Tap made it on to the list. It would have been funnier if they ranked higher that Nirvana.

The Beatles should have at least made honorable mention. Sure they are not hard rock, but IMHO, without them, none other would exist.

Redlemon · 08-27-2004, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by God of Thunder

The Beatles should have at least made honorable mention. Sure they are not hard rock, but IMHO, without them, none other would exist.

You could probably say the same about Mozart. How far back do you want to reach?

Derwood · 08-27-2004, 12:24 PM

The list was a compilation of votes by music writers, critics and artists, so blame them if you don't like the list.

ForwardtoDeath · 08-27-2004, 01:55 PM

Yea, I saw this a long time ago. I have no clue how anyone could put nirvana at 6 as there are a lot of artists above them that could have been considered more influential or "great." The thing with nirvana is that everyone in the music industry gives them too much respect because of the way they blew up really big and then boom, kurt cobain kills himself and the whole world proclaims him a rock god. Were they a good band, yea, they were, but there was much better music that came out of that same scene (soundgarden, aic, pearl jam, mudhoney). I was happy to see bad brains on the list, they deserve it, but 99? come on, they deserve better than that. Anyway, the moral of the story is, VH1

BuddyHawks · 08-27-2004, 01:58 PM

I like Nirvana...

K-Wise · 08-27-2004, 04:51 PM

Seriously though Yes were 94 and yes kick the bloody bajesus out of 70% of this list. They should have been MUCH higher on the list. And the fact that Lenny Kravitz is the first one to beat them out REALLY pisses me off. I loved this list though...not particularly fond of the order of things like Nirvana beating out Pink Floyd, Queen, Van Halen, The Doors, Bad Company, Lynard Skynard, Jethro Tull, etc. etc. I'd say 50% of the bands above them are better than them including Pearl Jam in my opinion but I think most of the bands that made it deserve to be there and pretty much all the ones that REALLY deserve to be there are on there.

Asta!!

Tophat665 · 08-27-2004, 06:31 PM

Well, I was going to re-rank the whole thing, but my HTML skills aren't up to it. So here's my top 20:
1) Black Sabbath
2) Led Zeppelin
3) Jimi Hendrix
4) Iron Maiden
5) Rush
6) AC/DC
7) Cream
8) Megadeth
9) Kiss
10) Soundgarden
11) Guns N' Roses
12) Blue Öyster Cult
13) Primus
14) Tool
15) Deep Purple
16) Living Colour
17) Frank Zappa
18) Queen
19) Faith No More
20) Ozzy Osbourne

For the record, Metallica came in at #24 in my ranking, Nirvana at #47.

I laid the whole list out and asked myself of each band, are they better, more talented, more authentically hard rock (whatever that means. Difference between Pat Benetar and Mötorhead.), and /or more innovative than the band above them. If they were, then I bumped them up.

K-Wise · 08-27-2004, 06:49 PM

^ That list ain't so bad.

Asta!!

ThrasheR · 08-27-2004, 07:14 PM

I think Deep Purple should be higher. But that's just me.

costello · 08-27-2004, 10:08 PM

the sex pistols beat out the clash? fuck that. sex pistols were a bunch of angry hacks who didnt even know how to play their instruments when they came together and came out with one fucking album that was even worth a damn. shit everyone sounded like the sex pistols in '77. add intelligence, talent, and love for music and then you have the clash. a band that outpreforms and outclasses the pistols by leaps and bounds. they did so much for music in 5 years its astounding. 5 albums that streched and challenged genres and what do the pistols have? gimme a break.

heroquest · 08-27-2004, 10:14 PM

Why the hell is Fugazi on their? They may be one of the most kick-ass bands of all time, but they definitely were not hard rock. Exact same with the Pixies. Though they may have been rock 'n roll, no way hard rock.

thriolith · 08-27-2004, 10:37 PM

Wow... what do they consider hard rock? I'm a pretty big classic rock fan, and some I can understand if they classify as hard rock but others... uh.. i dunno. Queen is hard rock? meh.

K-Wise · 08-28-2004, 03:31 AM

^ Listen to a song like "I'm In Love With My Car" "We Will Rock You" "Born To Be Kings" "Tie Your Mother Down" etc. and tell me Queen didn't rock hard. If yer gonna call on them ya might as well call on Yes too. Costello has a point too...Joey Ramone said it himself "The Sex Pistols are a <b>good</b> band...The Clash are <b>great</b> band"

Asta!!

warrrreagl · 08-28-2004, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by redlemon

You could probably say the same about Mozart. How far back do you want to reach?

Then I nominate Pythagorus, since he invented tuning ratios and discovered acoustics. Actually, I'm damned proud that GodofThunder put the Beatles on the list, and a little chapped that he beat me to it.

pan6467 · 08-28-2004, 07:12 AM

#42 the KINKS.... well at least they got mentioned I guess.

Led Zeppelin #1 what a fuckin joke.

optik_nerve · 08-28-2004, 10:25 AM

I think The Smashing Pumpkins shouldv'e been way higher than #49.

Same with Megadeth.

anleja · 08-28-2004, 12:08 PM

Most lists suck. Sometimes they are good to discover new music (through Rolling Stone's 500 Best Albums I discovered Big Star and Television, 2 great bands) but for the most part I don't even understand the point of them.

Derwood · 08-28-2004, 02:21 PM

We could argue personal taste all day. I mean, you may not like Nirvana, but others think they are the best ever. Personally, I think the Clash and Rush are two of the most overrated piece of shit bands ever, but I'm not going to question whether they belong on this list or not.

Stompy · 08-28-2004, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omega2K4

6.) Nirvana <----How the fuck did they get in the top 10, let alone the

You're joking, right? How could they NOT be in the top 10?

Love em or hate em, but Nirvana, like Zeppelin/Sabbath before them, is one of the most influential and groundbreaking bands from the past 20 years.

There have been others, yes, but none quite as great as Nirvana.

Zephyr66 · 08-28-2004, 10:50 PM

influential and groundbreaking are not synonymous with talented

maiden should definately be in the top 10 at least

just be glad linkin park isnt on it... *checks list again* thank god

pedro padilla · 08-29-2004, 01:26 AM

it´s amazing that VH1 even knows the bad brains exist.

K-Wise · 08-29-2004, 10:08 PM

VH1 more than likely didn't know who they or Kings X and a shit load of the other bands are the Musicians, Front Men, Journalists, VJ & DJ's, etc. are the ones who picked the bands...and what order they ranked them. They're the ones who knew about Bad Brains...not VH1.

Asta!!

braindamage351 · 09-03-2004, 11:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stompy

You're joking, right? How could they NOT be in the top 10?

Love em or hate em, but Nirvana, like Zeppelin/Sabbath before them, is one of the most influential and groundbreaking bands from the past 20 years.

There have been others, yes, but none quite as great as Nirvana.

I'd agree with you if you replaced "influential and groundbreaking" with "famous".

Tophat665 · 09-04-2004, 05:35 AM

I pertty much have to agree that Nirvana belongs on the list, but not in the top 10. It doesn't matter if you did something first if the thing that you did wasn't worth doing. Props to Cobain for pretty fair songwriting. Massively overrated because he killed himself. (Is this the meaning of number 1 with a bullet?). Major Props to Dave Grohl for being a kickass drummer and carrying the band.

08-27-2004, 10:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
omega2K4 Natalie Portman is sexy. Location: The Outer Rim	VH1's The 100 Greatest Artists of Hard Rock Did anyone else see this on TV last night? It was like 5 episodes @ 1 hour each. Here's the full list. 100.) Quiet Riot 99.) Bad Brains 98.) Mountain 97.) Primus 96.) Meat Loaf 95.) Fugazi 94.) Yes 93.) Lenny Kravitz <--- HOW THE FUCK IS HE ON THE LIST!?!@? 92.) The Black Crowes 91.) Danzig 90.) Rainbow 89.) Lita Ford 88.) Tool 87.) King Crimson 86.) Foreigner 85.) Whitesnake 84.) UFO 83.) King's X 82.) Queensryche 81.) The Pixies 80.) Green Day 79.) Ratt 78.) Marilyn Manson 77.) Hole 76.) Bon Jovi 75.) Spinal Tap 74.) Pat Benatar 73.) Twisted Sister 72.) Foo Fighters 71.) Lynyrd Skynyrd 70.) Living Colour 69.) Megadeth 68.) Hüsker Dü 67.) The Rolling Stones 66.) Joan Jett and the Blackhearts 65.) The Cult 64.) Steppenwolf 63.) Boston 62.) Ministry 61.) Jethro Tull 60.) The New York Dolls 59.) Bad Company 58.) Anthrax 57.) Heart 56.) Rob Zombie/White Zombie 55.) Blue Öyster Cult 54.) Sonic Youth 53.) Korn <------WHAT. THE. FUCK!?!? 52.) Faith No More 51.) Thin Lizzy 50.) Slayer 49.) The Smashing Pumpkins 48.) Janis Joplin 47.) The Rollins Band 46.) The Scorpions 45.) Pantera 44.) ZZ Top 43.) Nine Inch Nails 42.) The Kinks 41.) Ted Nugent 40.) Stone Temple Pilots 39.) Crazy Horse 38.) MC5 37.) The Yardbirds 36.) Frank Zappa 35.) Jane's Addiction 34.) Alice in Chains 33.) Rage Against The Machine 32.) The Doors 31.) Def Leppard 30.) Red Hot Chili Peppers 29.) Mötley Crüe 28.) Rush 27.) Iggy Pop 26.) Motörhead 25.) Cheap Trick 24.) Iron Maiden 23.) Judas Priest 22.) Deep Purple 21.) Pearl Jam 20.) Alice Cooper 19.) The Clash 18.) Ozzy Osbourne 17.) The Ramones 16.) Cream 15.) Pink Floyd 14.) Soundgarden 13.) Queen 12.) The Sex Pistols 11.) Aerosmith 10.) Kiss 9.) Guns N' Roses 8.) The Who 7.) Van Halen 6.) Nirvana <----How the fuck did they get in the top 10, let alone the top 100? 5.) Metallica 4.) AC/DC 3.) Jimi Hendrix 2.) Black Sabbath 1.) Led Zeppelin Who do you think should and/or should not be on this list? I think Lenny Kravitz, Korn, and Nirvana should not be on this list at all. Putting their no talent asses on this list is a disgrace to all of the other great bands. I also think Foreigner, Boston, Tool, Blue Öyster Cult, and Lynyrd Skynyrd should definitely be higher in the list. __________________ "While the State exists there can be no freedom. When there is freedom there will be no State." - Vladimir Ilyich Lenin "Reason has always existed, but not always in a reasonable form."- Karl Marx

08-27-2004, 10:46 AM	#2 (permalink)
BigGov WoW or Class... Location: UWW	It's VH1. You expected a good list? __________________ One day an Englishman, a Scotsman, and an Irishman walked into a pub together. They each bought a pint of Guinness. Just as they were about to enjoy their creamy beverage, three flies landed in each of their pints. The Englishman pushed his beer away in disgust. The Scotsman fished the fly out of his beer and continued drinking it, as if nothing had happened. The Irishman, too, picked the fly out of his drink but then held it out over the beer and yelled "SPIT IT OUT, SPIT IT OUT, YOU BASTARD!"

08-27-2004, 11:47 AM	#3 (permalink)
God of Thunder Talk nerdy to me Location: Flint, MI	10.) Kiss <------Damn right!!! But above: 13.) Queen 28.) Rush & 24.) Iron Maiden???? VH1's lists have never really made any sense to me. I think it is funny that Spinal Tap made it on to the list. It would have been funnier if they ranked higher that Nirvana. The Beatles should have at least made honorable mention. Sure they are not hard rock, but IMHO, without them, none other would exist. __________________ I reject your reality, and substitute my own -- Adam Savage

08-27-2004, 12:24 PM	#5 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	The list was a compilation of votes by music writers, critics and artists, so blame them if you don't like the list. __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

08-27-2004, 01:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
BuddyHawks Swashbuckling Location: Iowa...sometimes	I like Nirvana... __________________ Watch More TV

08-27-2004, 01:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
ForwardtoDeath Tilted	Yea, I saw this a long time ago. I have no clue how anyone could put nirvana at 6 as there are a lot of artists above them that could have been considered more influential or "great." The thing with nirvana is that everyone in the music industry gives them too much respect because of the way they blew up really big and then boom, kurt cobain kills himself and the whole world proclaims him a rock god. Were they a good band, yea, they were, but there was much better music that came out of that same scene (soundgarden, aic, pearl jam, mudhoney). I was happy to see bad brains on the list, they deserve it, but 99? come on, they deserve better than that. Anyway, the moral of the story is, VH1

08-27-2004, 04:51 PM	#8 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	Seriously though Yes were 94 and yes kick the bloody bajesus out of 70% of this list. They should have been MUCH higher on the list. And the fact that Lenny Kravitz is the first one to beat them out REALLY pisses me off. I loved this list though...not particularly fond of the order of things like Nirvana beating out Pink Floyd, Queen, Van Halen, The Doors, Bad Company, Lynard Skynard, Jethro Tull, etc. etc. I'd say 50% of the bands above them are better than them including Pearl Jam in my opinion but I think most of the bands that made it deserve to be there and pretty much all the ones that REALLY deserve to be there are on there. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

08-27-2004, 06:31 PM	#9 (permalink)
Tophat665 Minion of the scaléd ones Location: Northeast Jesusland	Well, I was going to re-rank the whole thing, but my HTML skills aren't up to it. So here's my top 20: 1) Black Sabbath 2) Led Zeppelin 3) Jimi Hendrix 4) Iron Maiden 5) Rush 6) AC/DC 7) Cream 8) Megadeth 9) Kiss 10) Soundgarden 11) Guns N' Roses 12) Blue Öyster Cult 13) Primus 14) Tool 15) Deep Purple 16) Living Colour 17) Frank Zappa 18) Queen 19) Faith No More 20) Ozzy Osbourne For the record, Metallica came in at #24 in my ranking, Nirvana at #47. I laid the whole list out and asked myself of each band, are they better, more talented, more authentically hard rock (whatever that means. Difference between Pat Benetar and Mötorhead.), and /or more innovative than the band above them. If they were, then I bumped them up. __________________ Light a man a fire, and he will be warm while it burns. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life. Last edited by Tophat665; 08-28-2004 at 05:10 AM.. Reason: Hubris and to add some thoughts

08-27-2004, 06:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ That list ain't so bad. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

08-27-2004, 07:14 PM	#11 (permalink)
ThrasheR Upright	I think Deep Purple should be higher. But that's just me.

08-27-2004, 10:08 PM	#12 (permalink)
costello Insane Location: Tucson	the sex pistols beat out the clash? fuck that. sex pistols were a bunch of angry hacks who didnt even know how to play their instruments when they came together and came out with one fucking album that was even worth a damn. shit everyone sounded like the sex pistols in '77. add intelligence, talent, and love for music and then you have the clash. a band that outpreforms and outclasses the pistols by leaps and bounds. they did so much for music in 5 years its astounding. 5 albums that streched and challenged genres and what do the pistols have? gimme a break.

08-27-2004, 10:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
heroquest Tilted	Why the hell is Fugazi on their? They may be one of the most kick-ass bands of all time, but they definitely were not hard rock. Exact same with the Pixies. Though they may have been rock 'n roll, no way hard rock.

08-27-2004, 10:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
thriolith Insane Location: Toronto	Wow... what do they consider hard rock? I'm a pretty big classic rock fan, and some I can understand if they classify as hard rock but others... uh.. i dunno. Queen is hard rock? meh. __________________ - Thriolith

08-28-2004, 03:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	^ Listen to a song like "I'm In Love With My Car" "We Will Rock You" "Born To Be Kings" "Tie Your Mother Down" etc. and tell me Queen didn't rock hard. If yer gonna call on them ya might as well call on Yes too. Costello has a point too...Joey Ramone said it himself "The Sex Pistols are a <b>good</b> band...The Clash are <b>great</b> band" Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

08-28-2004, 07:12 AM	#17 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	#42 the KINKS.... well at least they got mentioned I guess. Led Zeppelin #1 what a fuckin joke. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

08-28-2004, 10:25 AM	#18 (permalink)
optik_nerve Psycho Location: Florida	I think The Smashing Pumpkins shouldv'e been way higher than #49. Same with Megadeth.

08-28-2004, 12:08 PM	#19 (permalink)
anleja disconnected Location: ignoreland	Most lists suck. Sometimes they are good to discover new music (through Rolling Stone's 500 Best Albums I discovered Big Star and Television, 2 great bands) but for the most part I don't even understand the point of them.

08-28-2004, 02:21 PM	#20 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	We could argue personal taste all day. I mean, you may not like Nirvana, but others think they are the best ever. Personally, I think the Clash and Rush are two of the most overrated piece of shit bands ever, but I'm not going to question whether they belong on this list or not. __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

08-28-2004, 10:50 PM	#22 (permalink)
Zephyr66 My custom title's the shit! Location: Canada	influential and groundbreaking are not synonymous with talented maiden should definately be in the top 10 at least just be glad linkin park isnt on it... checks list again thank god Last edited by Zephyr66; 08-28-2004 at 10:52 PM..

08-29-2004, 01:26 AM	#23 (permalink)
pedro padilla Insane	it´s amazing that VH1 even knows the bad brains exist.

08-29-2004, 10:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
K-Wise It's All About The Ass!! Location: In a pool of mayonnaise!!	VH1 more than likely didn't know who they or Kings X and a shit load of the other bands are the Musicians, Front Men, Journalists, VJ & DJ's, etc. are the ones who picked the bands...and what order they ranked them. They're the ones who knew about Bad Brains...not VH1. Asta!! __________________ "I love music and it's my parents fault (closing statement)." - Me..quoting myself...from when I said that...On TFP..thats here...Tilted Forum Project *It ain't goodbye, it's see ya later! I'll miss you guys!* - Asta!!

09-04-2004, 05:35 AM	#26 (permalink)
Tophat665 Minion of the scaléd ones Location: Northeast Jesusland	I pertty much have to agree that Nirvana belongs on the list, but not in the top 10. It doesn't matter if you did something first if the thing that you did wasn't worth doing. Props to Cobain for pretty fair songwriting. Massively overrated because he killed himself. (Is this the meaning of number 1 with a bullet?). Major Props to Dave Grohl for being a kickass drummer and carrying the band. __________________ Light a man a fire, and he will be warm while it burns. Set a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life.