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Stare At The Sun · 02-20-2004, 09:54 AM

So...who here likes Industrial? Nothing beats a little bit of robot dancing. Who do you like, hate etc, favorite songs, etc? Here is my latest playlist:

Hanzel Und Gretyl_Third Reich From the Sun
Wumpscut_Krieg
Wumpscut_Kill A Raver
Velvet Acid Christ vs Funker Vogt_Fortunes of war
Velvet Acid Christ vs Funker Vogt_Futile(resisted)
VnV Nation_Epicenter
Config.sys_Redundant
KMFDM_Anarchy
Ministry_Stigmata
Skinny Puppy_Assimilate (Razed In black remix)
Crystal Method_Bloodbath Dance
Hanzel Und Gretyl_Dementia Solaris

Discuss!

ToolBag · 02-20-2004, 10:34 AM

The only industrial bands I have really been into is Ministry, KMFDM, and Wumpscut. Ill have to check out some Velvet Acid Christ, sounds neat!

NeverBorn · 02-20-2004, 11:08 AM

Industrial...sweet metallic hard metal to my ears. I like Fear Factory myself..some say NIN is the birth of industrail

Stare At The Sun · 02-20-2004, 11:31 AM

Fear Factory is one amazing band, definatly in my top 3. Go see em live @ the Jagermeister tour like me

90degree · 02-20-2004, 11:50 AM

nin birth of industrial.... lmao.

throbbing gristle.. and perhaps WIRE .. would be the origin of industrial as far as I know.. then there were bands like Front 242, Nitzerebb, Skinny Puppy, Xymox,KMFDM,Front line assembly,meat beat manifesto,chris and cosy, Split Second, ... I could go on and on.

anyhow..yeah.. i still listen to some Industrial.. but more on the metal side.. but I listened to alot of it back in the late 80's early 90's

sipsake · 02-20-2004, 12:46 PM

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Originally posted by 90degree
nin birth of industrial.... lmao.

Damn...strange the things that pop up and suddnely make you realize how much time has passed.

Yeah, I remeber listening to Throbbing Gristle and Xymox back in the mid-late '80's. I'll never forget the look on my wife's face a few years ago as she walked in while I was listening to Throbbing Gristle's Hamburger Lady.

Stare At The Sun · 02-20-2004, 12:50 PM

I think NIN helped bring it more into the minds of more people, but yeah, birth of, not so much.

Redjake · 02-20-2004, 12:50 PM

NIN didn't really start Industrial, they just brought it mainstream (if there is such a thing)

strange · 02-20-2004, 02:43 PM

Nitzer Ebb was always my favorite in that catagory. Join in the Chant, Lightning Man, Warsaw Ghetto, Control, I'm Here. Some great songs.

high_way · 02-20-2004, 04:38 PM

i am a big fear factory fan. havent really gotten into the other bands named except NIN, but i absoultelly love fear factory.

docbungle · 02-20-2004, 11:29 PM

Electric Hellfire Club
Die Krupps
Pig

And even though NIN didn't start it, they did it better than anyone else.

Charlatan · 02-21-2004, 06:16 AM

It has been a while since I've listened to industrial on a regular basis, thanks for reminding me of Nitzer Ebb's join in the chant...

Tack<head was one that I used to listen to all the time
Skinny Puppy, Ministry, 1000 Homo DJs, NiN, KMFDM (Godlike absolutely rocks)... as others have written, the list goes on

Most of my stuff is on vinyl and I no longer own a turntable... I used to play this stuff in univeristy when I had my own radio show.

muckluck · 02-21-2004, 10:19 AM

Rammstein and Orgy great bands

. Highly reccomended

SiN · 02-21-2004, 03:54 PM

<-- longtime industrial fan

It's been a while since I've listened to it though :/

/me makes a mental note to watch this thread for download ideas

Skinny Puppy was always a favorite of mine (meaning, hardcore listener and collector. I've got a couple rare things..)

Other favorites...(applying the 'industrial' tag a bit loosely perhaps..)

KMFDM, Front 242, Godflesh cool points given to anyone else who likes them!, Ministry, NiN *cringe*....I ADORE Trent but i've never been comfortable with the 'industrial' tag on his music, ChemLab, Fear Factory, Front Line Assembly, Coil, ... that's all i can think of at the moment.

mikeylips · 02-22-2004, 11:26 AM

I need somebody to define "industrial" for me, I've heard a lot of band names that can me "industrial" that I just consider hard rock or metal. What does it take to be an industrial band?

Charlatan · 02-22-2004, 11:56 AM

I've always thought of industrial as music that is really loud and uses a lot of sampling (especially of industrial machines like jackhammers, power drills, etc.)

einsturzende neubauten and trobbing gristle were the start of the movement for me...

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Industrial music
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.

Industrial music is a term that describes a wide range of music, generally mixing rock with samplers and electronic instruments.

History
Industrial music grew as an offshoot of electronic music known as musique concrete, which was made by manipulating cut sections of recording tape, and adding very early sound output from analog electronics devices. The term Industrial Music was originally coined by Monte Cazazza as the strapline for the record label Industrial Records, founded by British art-provocateurs Throbbing Gristle. These original artists have very little musical connection with modern "industrial music". Although contemporary to punk rock in the mid-to-late 1970s such as the Sex Pistols, industrial music was more hard hitting and thought-provoking and less easy to swallow (being basically noise music).

The term was meant by its creators to evoke the idea of music created for a new generation of people, previous music being more agricultural.

First wave of industrial music
The first wave of this music appeared in the late 1970s in the UK with bands like Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire and SPK. Blending electronic synthesisers, guitars and early samplers, these bands created an aggressive and abrasive music fusing elements of rock with experimental electronic music. Like their punk cousins, they enjoyed the use of shock-tactics including explicit lyrical content, graphic art and Fascist imagery. The label Industrial Records controversially used an image of a gas chamber as its logo.

Later, across the Atlantic, similar experiments were soon to take place. Boyd Rice (aka NON) released several albums of noise music, with guitar drones and tape loops creating a cacophony of repetitive sounds. In San Francisco, performance artist Monte Cazazza began releasing albums of atonal rock. In Germany Einstürzende Neubauten were performing daring acts, mixing metal percussion, guitars and even jackhammers in elaborate stage performances that often damaged the venues they were playing.

In the early 1980s, advances in sampling technology and the popularity of synthesised new wave music bought some industrial musicians greater exposure. As much as some new wave bands were informed by the experiments of the industrial bands, the original industrial groups also began to refine their sound. Cabaret Voltaire and Throbbing Gristle experimented with dance beats, and the Cab's (as they were known by fans) album The Crackdown (1983) was released on Virgin Records to some success.

Industrial rock
In the 1980s the more experimental side of industrial music became subsumed into dance and rock music. Psychic TV, formed from the remnants of Throbbing Gristle, released early albums of Acid House music, such as Jack The Tab (1988). In North America, bands such as Skinny Puppy and Ministry mixed shock-rock performances with electronic samples and heavy metal guitars to create a genre often referred to as "industrial rock". Other notable artists in this genre enjoyed widespread mainstream success in the 1990s, including but not limited to Front Line Assembly, Nine Inch Nails, Marilyn Manson and Fear Factory.

Modern industrial music is generally sequenced, making heavy use of FM & digital synths. It is characterized by a deadened snare drum sample and a heavy bass drum sample to a rock or techno beat. Vocals are often distorted and can feature tortured lyrics. The auto-arpeggiate feature of modern synthesizers is used often, to create complex sounding multiple simultaneous arpeggiations from multiple synthesizers which are synchronized with drum machines via MIDI. Reliance on heavy distortion pioneered by heavy metal also typifies the genre. Contemporary industrial music tends to be, but not exclusively, club-oriented

PoweredByPorn · 05-24-2004, 04:03 PM

Got into industrial a couple years ago (damnit, I was born in the wrong era).

Godflesh, Ministry, Suicide Commando, Wumpscut, KMFDM, Fear Factory, Chemlab...

yeah...

KWSN · 05-24-2004, 06:18 PM

Fear Factory, Ministry, Skinny Puppy, Front 242 (Welcome to Paradise is IMHO the best song in the entire genre), and NiN are awesome.

h2ogo69 · 05-24-2004, 08:27 PM

nin
ministry
white zombie
orgie
crystal method
rammstein

filter had a few good industrial songs as well....

Jesus Pimp · 05-24-2004, 09:00 PM

I used to listen Industrial way back when it was actually good. Most of the shit out today is shit. Fear Factory and Crystal Method industrial?

Jadedfox · 05-25-2004, 12:01 AM

Ministry - So What is one of the greatest songs ever.

Stompy · 05-25-2004, 05:30 AM

Ministry
KMFDM
Pig
NIN

Good stuff!

Polyphobic · 05-25-2004, 07:26 AM

I have been listening to Industrial for 13 years. My favorite still is Skinny Puppy.
Some others:
Older ministry
Chemlab
God flesh
Kmfdm (nihil is in my car's stereo at the moment
Pigface
NIN is good. I hesitate calling them full industrial.
Fear Factory is cool But they resemble metal more than industrial IMHO.

Hat · 05-26-2004, 06:17 AM

Nine Inch Nails isn't industrial to you guys? I guess Pretty hate Machine was much more poppy '80s synth, but still, Downward Spiral makes up for that, surely?

Polyphobic · 05-26-2004, 06:28 AM

Don't get me wrong. I like NIN but something I can't put my finger on causes me to hesitate calling them full on industrial.

Farm · 05-26-2004, 06:34 AM

Anybody ever get into Captain Beefheart?

Hat · 05-26-2004, 06:59 AM

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Originally posted by Polyphobic
Don't get me wrong. I like NIN but something I can't put my finger on causes me to hesitate calling them full on industrial.

I've got no qualms with that, i'm not an industrial listener generally, so I wouldn't really know what goes for industrial, I was just curious.

Derwood · 05-26-2004, 07:36 AM

Wax Trax records in Chicago was putting out Industrical albums for years before NIN showed up on the scene.

I used to be hugely into Ministry, and still like some tracks from Revolting Cocks, 1000 Homo DJ's and the like. Front 242 as well.

Polyphobic · 05-26-2004, 07:42 AM

One of my coworkers used to live in Chicago and worked for Wax Trax in the early days. She met Al J...(whatever his last name is nowdays).

To Hat:
No problem. I understood where you are coming from. I just can't seem to put it into words.

sprocket · 05-26-2004, 04:45 PM

No one here has mentioned My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult. You should all be ashamed of yourselves.

KWSN · 05-26-2004, 04:54 PM

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Originally posted by Farm
Anybody ever get into Captain Beefheart?

Captain Beefheart is outstanding but how he is industrial is beyond me.

QuasiMojo · 05-26-2004, 05:00 PM

Ministry- "Jesus Built My Hotrod" never failes to get me on my feet

Farm · 05-27-2004, 05:44 AM

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Originally posted by KWSN
Captain Beefheart is outstanding but how he is industrial is beyond me.

Exactly. Captain Beefheart has been compared to early NIN which questions NIN's industrial rumor.

kutulu · 05-27-2004, 09:05 AM

I've never thought of Fear Factory as industrial. I guess the category works for them though. They're definitely not death metal (which many people used to say they were).

Ministry is the best industrial ever. Psalm 69 is still one of my most listened to albums.

Polyphobic · 05-27-2004, 01:10 PM

Ministry favorite albums:

1) The mind is a terrible thing to taste
2) The Land of Rape and Honey
3) Psalm 69

Favorite songs:
So what
Jesus Built My Hotroad
The Land Of Rape And Honey
Stigmata
(there's so much more I am forgetting)

Edit:
Fixed my fuck up

kutulu · 05-27-2004, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by Polyphobic
Ministry favorite albums:

1) So Far So Good So What
2) The Land of Rape and Honey
3) Psalm 69

Favorite songs:
So what
Jesus Built My Hotroad
The Land Of Rape And Honey
Stigmata
(there's so much more I am forgetting)

I thouhgt So Far So Good So What was Megadeth...

Polyphobic · 05-28-2004, 05:48 AM

Wow! Don't post when you are half asleep. LOL

Going to change that. I'm going to beat myself sensless for getting megadeth and ministry confused.
*bangs head into wall*

SiNai · 05-30-2004, 12:16 PM

Never much got into industrial outside of NIN (which I wouldn't classify as industrial, either). Although, Ministry and KMFDM aren't bad, and the guy that does all of KMFDM's album art is awesome. Skinny Puppy and Oghr (I think what his new project was called) aren't that bad, either.

PoweredByPorn · 05-31-2004, 08:25 PM

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Originally posted by QuasiMojo
Ministry- "Jesus Built My Hotrod" never failes to get me on my feet

Best driving song ever. Proven fact.

Derwood · 06-04-2004, 10:45 AM

When I first heard "Thieves" by Ministry it blew my ass off the map. I was like "Metallica who?"

02-20-2004, 09:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	So, who likes industrial? So...who here likes Industrial? Nothing beats a little bit of robot dancing. Who do you like, hate etc, favorite songs, etc? Here is my latest playlist: Hanzel Und Gretyl_Third Reich From the Sun Wumpscut_Krieg Wumpscut_Kill A Raver Velvet Acid Christ vs Funker Vogt_Fortunes of war Velvet Acid Christ vs Funker Vogt_Futile(resisted) VnV Nation_Epicenter Config.sys_Redundant KMFDM_Anarchy Ministry_Stigmata Skinny Puppy_Assimilate (Razed In black remix) Crystal Method_Bloodbath Dance Hanzel Und Gretyl_Dementia Solaris Discuss!

02-20-2004, 10:34 AM	#2 (permalink)
ToolBag Insane Location: Chicago	The only industrial bands I have really been into is Ministry, KMFDM, and Wumpscut. Ill have to check out some Velvet Acid Christ, sounds neat! __________________ Jesus was a ruffies victim! Dan 3:20

02-20-2004, 12:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	NIN didn't really start Industrial, they just brought it mainstream (if there is such a thing) __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-20-2004, 04:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
high_way Addict Location: Australia	i am a big fear factory fan. havent really gotten into the other bands named except NIN, but i absoultelly love fear factory. __________________ A stranger is just a friend you havent met yet. Impostor of the imposturous

02-20-2004, 11:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
docbungle It's all downhill from here Location: Denver	Industrial!!!!! Electric Hellfire Club Die Krupps Pig And even though NIN didn't start it, they did it better than anyone else. __________________ Bad Luck City

02-20-2004, 11:08 AM	#3 (permalink)
NeverBorn I'm a pepper bitch..	Industrial...sweet metallic hard metal to my ears. I like Fear Factory myself..some say NIN is the birth of industrail

02-20-2004, 11:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	Fear Factory is one amazing band, definatly in my top 3. Go see em live @ the Jagermeister tour like me

02-20-2004, 11:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
90degree Insane	nin birth of industrial.... lmao. throbbing gristle.. and perhaps WIRE .. would be the origin of industrial as far as I know.. then there were bands like Front 242, Nitzerebb, Skinny Puppy, Xymox,KMFDM,Front line assembly,meat beat manifesto,chris and cosy, Split Second, ... I could go on and on. anyhow..yeah.. i still listen to some Industrial.. but more on the metal side.. but I listened to alot of it back in the late 80's early 90's

02-20-2004, 12:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	I think NIN helped bring it more into the minds of more people, but yeah, birth of, not so much.

02-20-2004, 02:43 PM	#9 (permalink)
strange Insane Location: So. Cal.	Nitzer Ebb was always my favorite in that catagory. Join in the Chant, Lightning Man, Warsaw Ghetto, Control, I'm Here. Some great songs.

02-21-2004, 06:16 AM	#12 (permalink)
Charlatan Getting it. Super Moderator Location: Lion City	It has been a while since I've listened to industrial on a regular basis, thanks for reminding me of Nitzer Ebb's join in the chant... Tack<head was one that I used to listen to all the time Skinny Puppy, Ministry, 1000 Homo DJs, NiN, KMFDM (Godlike absolutely rocks)... as others have written, the list goes on Most of my stuff is on vinyl and I no longer own a turntable... I used to play this stuff in univeristy when I had my own radio show. __________________ "My hands are on fire. Hands are on fire. Ain't got no more time for all you charlatans and liars." - Old Man Luedecke

02-21-2004, 10:19 AM	#13 (permalink)
muckluck Psycho	Rammstein and Orgy great bands . Highly reccomended __________________

02-21-2004, 03:54 PM	#14 (permalink)
SiN strangelove Location: ...more here than there...	<-- longtime industrial fan It's been a while since I've listened to it though :/ /me makes a mental note to watch this thread for download ideas Skinny Puppy was always a favorite of mine (meaning, hardcore listener and collector. I've got a couple rare things..) Other favorites...(applying the 'industrial' tag a bit loosely perhaps..) KMFDM, Front 242, Godflesh cool points given to anyone else who likes them!, Ministry, NiN cringe....I ADORE Trent but i've never been comfortable with the 'industrial' tag on his music, ChemLab, Fear Factory, Front Line Assembly, Coil, ... that's all i can think of at the moment. __________________ - + - ° GiRLie GeeK ° - + - ° 01110010011011110110111101110100001000000110110101100101 Therell be days/When Ill stray/I may appear to be/Constantly out of reach/I give in to sin/Because I like to practise what I preach

02-22-2004, 11:26 AM	#15 (permalink)
mikeylips Crazy	I need somebody to define "industrial" for me, I've heard a lot of band names that can me "industrial" that I just consider hard rock or metal. What does it take to be an industrial band?

05-24-2004, 04:03 PM	#17 (permalink)
PoweredByPorn "...a face I could bear to look at in the mirror." Location: Virginia Beach, VA	Got into industrial a couple years ago (damnit, I was born in the wrong era). Godflesh, Ministry, Suicide Commando, Wumpscut, KMFDM, Fear Factory, Chemlab... yeah... __________________ Do you want me to sit in a corner and rust of just fall apart where I'm standing?

05-24-2004, 06:18 PM	#18 (permalink)
KWSN green	Fear Factory, Ministry, Skinny Puppy, Front 242 (Welcome to Paradise is IMHO the best song in the entire genre), and NiN are awesome. __________________ Your arms are broken!

05-24-2004, 08:27 PM	#19 (permalink)
h2ogo69 Banned	nin ministry white zombie orgie crystal method rammstein filter had a few good industrial songs as well....

05-24-2004, 09:00 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jesus Pimp The Original JizzSmacka	I used to listen Industrial way back when it was actually good. Most of the shit out today is shit. Fear Factory and Crystal Method industrial? __________________ Never date anyone who doesn't make your dick hard.

05-25-2004, 12:01 AM	#21 (permalink)
Jadedfox Egocentric Location: World of Warcraft	Ministry - So What is one of the greatest songs ever. __________________ There is no fucking you, there is only me.

05-25-2004, 05:30 AM	#22 (permalink)
Stompy Banned from being Banned Location: Donkey	Ministry KMFDM Pig NIN Good stuff! __________________ I love lamp.

05-25-2004, 07:26 AM	#23 (permalink)
Polyphobic Runt Location: Denver	I have been listening to Industrial for 13 years. My favorite still is Skinny Puppy. Some others: Older ministry Chemlab God flesh Kmfdm (nihil is in my car's stereo at the moment Pigface NIN is good. I hesitate calling them full industrial. Fear Factory is cool But they resemble metal more than industrial IMHO. __________________ <--The great infidel-->

05-26-2004, 06:17 AM	#24 (permalink)
Hat Tilted Location: Adelaide, Australia	Nine Inch Nails isn't industrial to you guys? I guess Pretty hate Machine was much more poppy '80s synth, but still, Downward Spiral makes up for that, surely?

05-26-2004, 06:28 AM	#25 (permalink)
Polyphobic Runt Location: Denver	Don't get me wrong. I like NIN but something I can't put my finger on causes me to hesitate calling them full on industrial. __________________ <--The great infidel-->

05-26-2004, 06:34 AM	#26 (permalink)
Farm Upright Location: is everything	Anybody ever get into Captain Beefheart? __________________ UNDER CONSTRUCTION

05-26-2004, 07:36 AM	#28 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Wax Trax records in Chicago was putting out Industrical albums for years before NIN showed up on the scene. I used to be hugely into Ministry, and still like some tracks from Revolting Cocks, 1000 Homo DJ's and the like. Front 242 as well. __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

05-26-2004, 07:42 AM	#29 (permalink)
Polyphobic Runt Location: Denver	One of my coworkers used to live in Chicago and worked for Wax Trax in the early days. She met Al J...(whatever his last name is nowdays). To Hat: No problem. I understood where you are coming from. I just can't seem to put it into words. __________________ <--The great infidel-->

05-26-2004, 04:45 PM	#30 (permalink)
sprocket Psycho Location: In transit	No one here has mentioned My Life with the Thrill Kill Kult. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. __________________ Remember, wherever you go... there you are.

05-26-2004, 05:00 PM	#32 (permalink)
QuasiMojo King Knave Location: Lancaster	Ministry- "Jesus Built My Hotrod" never failes to get me on my feet __________________ AzAbOv ZoBeLoE

05-27-2004, 09:05 AM	#34 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	I've never thought of Fear Factory as industrial. I guess the category works for them though. They're definitely not death metal (which many people used to say they were). Ministry is the best industrial ever. Psalm 69 is still one of my most listened to albums.

05-27-2004, 01:10 PM	#35 (permalink)
Polyphobic Runt Location: Denver	Ministry favorite albums: 1) The mind is a terrible thing to taste 2) The Land of Rape and Honey 3) Psalm 69 Favorite songs: So what Jesus Built My Hotroad The Land Of Rape And Honey Stigmata (there's so much more I am forgetting) Edit: Fixed my fuck up __________________ <--The great infidel--> Last edited by Polyphobic; 05-28-2004 at 05:48 AM..

05-28-2004, 05:48 AM	#37 (permalink)
Polyphobic Runt Location: Denver	Wow! Don't post when you are half asleep. LOL Going to change that. I'm going to beat myself sensless for getting megadeth and ministry confused. bangs head into wall __________________ <--The great infidel-->

05-30-2004, 12:16 PM	#38 (permalink)
SiNai Dreams In Digital Location: Iowa	Never much got into industrial outside of NIN (which I wouldn't classify as industrial, either). Although, Ministry and KMFDM aren't bad, and the guy that does all of KMFDM's album art is awesome. Skinny Puppy and Oghr (I think what his new project was called) aren't that bad, either. __________________ I can't seem to remember now What it was like- to live life, before you.. symbiont

06-04-2004, 10:45 AM	#40 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	When I first heard "Thieves" by Ministry it blew my ass off the map. I was like "Metallica who?" __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel