POLL: What has been the lowest thing the pop music industry has sunk to?
 

My vote is for T.A.T.U. Say what you will about prefab bans like N'Sync and Spice Girls, but at least those were fairly clean cut groups who could sing the songs that were written for them.

But T.A.T.U. is the most fabricated piece of shit of all time. Two under age girls who have zero talent, singing along to completely pedestrian beats, and being forced to put on this "we're thinly veiling that we're lesbian" act that is completely fictional. Some 50 year old sleaze bag from Europe decides that pop music hasn't truly taken advantage of the depraved pedophile demographic, so let's trot out two 15 year olds and make them kiss on stage.

I fully support homosexuals, but using lesbianism as your marketing tool to sell shitty music is crass.

BTW, don't click OTHER and say "The current RIAA suing of filesharers". I want this to be specifically about POP music, not the entire recording industry.

I'd have to say all of the above.Milli Vanilli stands out just because they were given Grammy awards. The two greatest moments in Grammy history was giving Milli Vanilli an award and trying to pretend they award excellence in music when they are just as much a popularity driven awards show just like everyone else and Eddie Vedder accepting his award and saying "This doesn't mean nothing." Priceless. Pretty much summed up the musics stars for me for the last 2 decades at least.

taking 10 people to write a horrible song Jenny from the block. that song is just plain stupid and if it took 10 people to write that then that proves she isn't much of an artist.

The lowest thing they've done, just being the pop music industry.

Can you tell I'm not a fan of pop music? ;)

I picked T.A.T.U., but all the choices offered were very tempting, as I loathe pop music and everything it represents. It's all basically one flabbergastingly shocking publicity stunt after another, with poopstars (typo intended), changing their image on a whim to suit suits and whatever partyline is taking over at a given time.

Everytime I see a horde of hysterical teenagers howling for the group du jour at a venue, my faith in humanity takes a serious hit. Sure, they may grow out of it, but still.

I picked J-Lo needing 10 people to write Jenny from the block. I remember seeing it took 6 or 7 people to write Cher's 'Believe' and thinking to myself "6 'songwriters' got together, and this is the best they could do?, Bob Dylan could wipe a better song onto his ass all by himself, in far less time"

you didnt mention (G)B2K

It bothers me that there is so little new music being created these days. Most everying is a sample of something else at least to a degree. There is nothing wrong with being a pop music in general, its called popular music for a reason, but is seems to me that it lacks much of a creative aspect these days. Oh, And 50 cent is an absolute travesty...

someone needs to reboot the music industry

"Jenny From The Block" is only made worse by the fact that she's actually from the suburbs somewhere, and since becoming rich has actually gone completely insane (you've heard the stories; dogs in a £200/night kennel, unable to share a bathroom with boyfriend, etc). I guess the songwriter(s) could get jobs as information ministers.

PS. anyone else hate the current trend among pop-rap for rapping off the beat? It screws with my head, I thought the whole point of music was that you stuck to a beat, you didn't go completely out of time with the percussion. Rant over.

All of the above are indicative of the complete worthlessness of the established music business. However, suing people for sharing songs over the internet is rock bottom.

i hate prefabbed groups like N'suck and The Backdoor Boys. but the Spice Girls were hot, and i often dreamed of nailing them.... so they are forgiven.

I voted "Other" becasue there needed to be a "All of the Above"

Except TATU... they can keep doing the underage lesbian thing.

OAR

OAR?

#4 is NOT tre. madonna's video was NOT censored by the muisc industry. she pulled it from circulation herself.

Lowest point in the pop music industry.--Making millions of people actually believe Michael Jackson has one thread of talent.

Cliched as it is, I'd have to say Avril Lavigne. Who isn't an option, but what can you do. It's the way they so blatantly found a rare unexploited part of the population (wannabe rebel 8-16 year old girls, who possess plenty of purchase power) and jumped to take advantage of it irritates the hell out of me.

EDIT: Let's also not forget the lucrative "imitating Pearl Jam" market.

yep, OAR. It's Of A Revolution or something. They have little to do with the pop music industry I think. I think they mighta even made it the old fashioned way. But they really suck and they draw the shittiest perfume-smellin' crowd ever. I used to have to clean up after their shows. Mostly though, I was just trying to provoke a flame war with guccilvr.

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If she didn't do it, someone would have done it for her. It gets my vote.

I was gonna put 'other' but then I remembered that Hear'say, Girls Aloud and One True Voice actually make music and are classed as musicians. If you want absolute doodoo, go to them and their tv-manufactured counterparts...

Gotta admit though, Liberty X have done good for themselves. They can sing, their beatz are decent and they aren't going blindly down the decrepit dimly lit council borough road of pop.

(Shaolin Fourlay Monk): May you rot in hell!!!

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Man, I should kiss you or something!

Fifty is a perfect examle of the powers of promotion. Here's a guy who can't rhyme, frequently collabo's with dead rappers and is produced by someone else, and yet he is selling like those proverbial hot cakes. The novelty is the fact that he's been shot nine times. It's supposed to be a miracle he's alive. Tell me, does seven shots in the leg, one in the jaw and one in the chest (not heart) automatically mean you should die on the spot, with no chance of survival? Nope, but that's what so many people believe. It's just a novelty that's helping him to sell.

Fifty Cent is a popstar proper. It's just that he does 'rap'.

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ps sorry bout the triple post, but I haven't really read through the whole thing yet...

50 cent sucks- It's just proof that these days you don't need talent to make it. It's all about gimmicks. He played at a local college recently- showed up 1 1/2 hours late and only was on stage for 40 minutes. I hope his fans go to his 40 minute shows and then boycott him. In my personal opinion, the only talent that most rappers have is that they can rhyme to a beat. Most of them have the music (the hard part) laid out for them and alot of them steal riffs from popular songs to do it.

I should have put the "popification" of No Doubt and Jewel as a poll option. Good call!

This is why I take pride in the fact that I produce my own beats, I write my own lyrics and I don't write total shite. Ok, so I have a little fun on a track sometimes, but you won't hear me gun talking and gimmicking. I've made it a rule that I'm not gonna do that gun talk shit, unless it's in a metaphorical context...anyway wtf am i doin, im goin off topic here!

it STILL isn't true. the msicindustry did not cansor madonna's video. the idea that someone would have done it for her does not mean that the msic indstry censored her. there wasn't technically anything censored either.

Derwood: its the truth they took it too far with that one.

Pop-punk.

Pop-punk bands having the nerve to label themselves "punk" completely alienated and destryoed the original punk scene. There are very few REAL punk bands left, and even they are a rather far cry from the original punk scene. Sum 41, New Found Glory, Mest, Avril, Good Charlotte, Blink-182 and the like are NOT punk. It's the labeling of bands like that AS punk that can be blamed for the impossibility of a REAL punk resurgence ever happening. These shitty pop bands thinking that they were all that completely ruined a great genre. No one who thinks that they're a punk even knows what punk is about anymore. The "hardcore" punks aren't punks, they're just angry kids. There's the mall punks, who are all just a bunch of idiots. There's the "anarchist" punks who think that they're SO damn punk just because some punk band way back when promoted anarchy. They don't listen to the real punk bands because they like them; they listen to them to be cool. Everyone who wants to be the cool kid in the school now can, and all they have to do is dress up like a "punk" or a "gangsta," regardless of what they actually know about the music. No one gets it anymore. The real thing that punk was about is entirely overlooked these days, and I believe that the Dead Kennedys summed it up best:

"Punk means thinking for yourself"

With all the shit out there right now, good fucking luck trying to restore that mentality. It's a damn shame that bands like that had to come in and ruin the entire image of the genre. A damn shame. The same is true for rap... ask one of your average dumbass wigger kiddies to name a great rapper, and who do they say? 50 Cent. Eminem. Sean Paul. These artists are OK at times, but they are _not_real_rappers_

Bet you 50 bucks that if you go up to 10 wannabe "gangstas" and ask them who Chuck D is, maybe one of them gets it right. Maybe.

Terrible.

Herm the thing about jewel, i dont like her music BUT i have listend to the lyrics of her latest track and the song is about selling out, Hence the BLingish video. she relises that she is a product thats ALOT more than most Artist

The mucic industry has done someting worse than the above in the poll. They created.....(shudder)...."Avril Lavigne"

I voted other. I'd say it's the RIAA trying to pass music off as a business instead of an art.

You mentioned "punk" 21 times in there KW!!!

My idea of true rappers are people like Outtaville, JokerSta, Scalpel, BlakTwang and others. I personally think that UK rappers put more thought and soul into what they're doin, and alot of rappers in the UK are at least semi-coscientious. You can relate to what they say, the slang is hilarious, the beats have a unique flava: it's all round enjoyment, without being bait and stupid. True, my FAVOURITE Rappa is Redman, because his rhyming schemes, lyrical style and the beats he flows over appeal to my preferences and personal style, but in terms of lyrical content he's pre-tty shallow. So I listen to him for enjoyment. People like Nas and BlakTwang now, I listen to for the mental.

Anyways I'm being herded out of theILT room, so, in a rushed manner, I wish you all goodnight.

Good night!

:)

You'd never hear the Clash or the Buzzcocks writing a pop song! No sir!
Anyway, I voted for J-Lo. Not because it took ten people to write the song, but because the song even exists in the first place. sk

I agree there should be an "All of the above"

I voted for prefabricated pop groups but I would have voted for the music industry cowtowing for MTV. MTV has ruined mainstream music and the record industry deserves alot of blame for playing their game.

I agree with spectre.