Metal/Hardcore thread

[yupyup]

anyone here listen to any -core bands?

[Punk.of.Ages]

You're new. Welcome friend. You'll probably get a much better response to this thread if you answer your own question by telling us what kind of "-core bands" you're into.

http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=105692 Give that a read.

As far as your question goes, most of the metal I'm into is thrash metal from the 80's. eg. Metallica, Megadeth, Slayer, etc.

I'm not really into anything "-core" that I know of. Of course this whole hardcore thing these days kind of escapes me.

[blahblah454]

"Core" music makes me want to slit my wrists and cry in the corner... oh wait, is that supposed to be emo that does that?

To me core music is to metal what emo is to punk.

[SSJTWIZTA]

sometimes ill listen to grindcore, like Nausea or Phobia (gatta love those names )

the closest i ever get to metal, really, is thrash. stuff like the good ole' municipal waste.

[Bacchanal]

Cattle Decapitation > -core bands.

Seriously, I don't even know any -core bands anymore... Hatebreed, maybe? Sworn Enemy, Terror, etc...

[Manic_Skafe]

You know Bacchanal, it's funny that while Cattle Decapitation started all this "gore not core" nonsense, they still are very much so and always have a been a grindcore band. Well there's that and the fact that they tour almost exclusively with hardcore bands simply because "hardcore kids buy merch."

Lord knows I've probably a few of their kids through college already.

And as for the topic at hand, I'm really surprised this thread hasn't garnered any more responses - I remember the tfp being bit more eclectic. But in any case, grindcore is pretty much where it's at. Perhaps it's just the bands that I listen to but I have yet to hear any other genre in which so much creative license is taken.

New bands like Nyia and Car Bomb are finding smart and inventive ways to expound upon the genre blending habits of Cephalic Carnage and The Dillinger Escape Plan (to name a few) while bands like Pig Destroyer and Converge push the envelope that much further with their every release.

Manic's top 11 most essential grindcore albums:

Cephalic Carnage - Lucid Interval (grindcore, jazz)
Pig Destroyer - Prowler In The Yard ( grindcore)
The Dillinger Escape Plan - Calculating Infinity (hardcore, grindcore, jazz, ambient)
The End - Within Dividia (grindcore, jazz, ambient)
Daughters - Canada Songs (grindcore, metal, hardcore)
Melt-Banana - Charlie (punk, electronic, metal, grindcore, noise rock)
Cryptopsy - Once Was Not (grindcore)
Circle Of Dead Children - Human Harvest (grindcore)
Car Bomb - Centralia (grindcore)
Converge - You Fail Me (hardcore, grindcore, metal)
Nyia - More Than You Expect (ambient, metal, jazz, grindcore)

[SSJTWIZTA]

ehh goregrind and grindcore are pretty much the same thing, arent they?

there are too many Genre now-a-days. i cant keep up.

i thought melt banana was classified as "Noise" music.

[yupyup]

i actually just missed phobia. i had to work...

but yeah i love hardcore, grind, whatever. mostley into melodic hardcore right now like sinking ships and set sail.

[SSJTWIZTA]

aww man, bummer.

i hear from my friends in indy that phobia actually puts on a decent show.

the last time the came around i saved my funds for youth brigade.

punk>any core for me.

[Bacchanal]

Originally Posted by Manic_Skafe

You know Bacchanal, it's funny that while Cattle Decapitation started all this "gore not core" nonsense, they still are very much so and always have a been a grindcore band. Well there's that and the fact that they tour almost exclusively with hardcore bands simply because "hardcore kids buy merch."

Yeah, it was meant more as a joke than anything, though I do love that shirt.

I was thinking more HxC than grind, but if we're talking grindcore I can go along with almost every band Skafe named except Melt Banana. They are garbage in my opinion. I'll also add a couple favorites of mine:

Daughters - Hell Songs (the vocals on this one are flat out odd, but awesome)
Cephalic Carnage - Anomalies (my favorite album by them)
Pig Destroyer - Terrifyer
Genghis Tron - Dead Mountain Mouth (though I don't know if this can really be called grind)

Finally, if Cryptopsy is grind (??) then check out their album "None So Vile". It is wonderful from beginning to end!

[SSJTWIZTA]

i just downloaded a Converge album on dial up here.

utter crap in my opinion. but then again, its not really my kind of music. maybe something else from the top 10 list will better suit my needs.

im more into stuff like Common enemy, crucial unit, municipal waste, disrupt, and resist when it comes to the harder music.

[Manic_Skafe]

Well to be fair, most of the hardcore I listed leans much more so to the metal side of the spectrum than it does punk. There's just something far too typical in the tempos and the strong structures for me to really get in to most punk bands. It all sounds like the Ramones to me - far too simple and uninteresting.

But Municipal Waste are playing two dates here and I'm most certain I'll end up at one of their shows.

Which Converge album did you download?

And Bacchanal, I've told you a million times, while you may hate their albums - their live show is one of the best I've ever seen. Double up your Huggies and download their split with Discordance Axis. Incredible.

[MSD]

The Acacia Strain

[Jenna]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Categor...musical_groups
A list of metalcore bands, more or less.

I listen to quite a few of the bands listed, such as 36 crazyfists, The Agony Scene, All that Remains, As I Lay Dying, Atreyu (old Atreyu, not their new shit), Black Dahlia Murder, Bleed the Sky, Bleeding Through, Caliban, Everytime I Die, God Forbid, Heaven Shall Burn, Himsa, Killswitch Engage, Lamb of God, Misery Signal, Poison the Well, Shadows Fall, Sinai Beach, Still Remains, Threat Signal, Trivium, Unearth...

That took too long, I'm not all about categorizing metal, I like a good variety personally. But I suppose a lot tend to fit into the metalcore category.

[SSJTWIZTA]

you fail me.

hmm, its too fancy for my likes..maybe theres where the problem lies.

the daughters-canada songs was alright. Noise is okay at times, not my bag of tea though.

[Bacchanal]

Originally Posted by SSJTWIZTA

you fail me.

hmm, its too fancy for my likes..maybe theres where the problem lies.

the daughters-canada songs was alright. Noise is okay at times, not my bag of tea though.

If you liked Canada Songs, you should definitely check out Hell Songs. Same singer, completely different sound.

[Italianman137]

I like the more grunge and alternative like Alice in Chains, Tool, Rage Against The Machine, Godsmack.

[Pholeus]

I'm not much into the -core genres. I tend to stick to the other genres of metal.

[spectre]

Originally Posted by Pholeus

I'm not much into the -core genres. I tend to stick to the other genres of metal.

Same here. I tend to stick with thrash and groove metal.

[Bacchanal]

Well I downloaded a "Deathcore pack" the other day and there was actually some decent shit on there...

Animosity
Arsonist
Asphyxia
Carcariass
Carnifex
The Faceless (saw them last year on the Summer Slaughter Tour, and they put on a hell of a show, even if there was plenty of karate)
Gory Blister (Terrible name, awesome sound!)
Lunar Eclipse
Misery Index
Origin
Quo Vadis
See You Next Tuesday
Whitechapel
Winds Of Plague


Also, a friend of mine who happens to "sing" for a death/grind band loaned me some cds...
Brain Drill
Gaza (I can't recommend this enough Skafe)
The Partisan Turbine
Suicide Silence
Waking The Cadaver (inhaled vocals!!!!)

[The Nightfly]

Check out Architects (MySpace.com - ARCHITECTS - Brighton, UK - Metal / Hardcore / Progressive - www.myspace.com/architectsuk)

I've known these guys since they were 15 and now they're like the biggest metal band in the UK. Mad.

I used to listen to a hell of a lot of metal but now I hardly listen to any. If I am going to listen to any now it'd probably be either Architects, Decapitated, Ion Dissonance or Meshuggah. Maybe Job for a Cowboy might get in there too haha.

[jimk]

i finally heard a pelican song on the radio yesterday. been reading about them for a couple years and it sounded like something interesting, but wow. i will buy it now.

[MSD]

http://www.mtv.com/overdrive/?vid=128887)

I won't even bother to try to break the lyrics down into "proper" lines, the erratic vocal rhythm is one of those things that shows their death metal roots. Some lines are repeated, and the third line isn't sung in full until the end (where it isn't listed in the liner notes,) but you can still read along if you can't understand the words.

Beautiful day, you would hardly notice all the disease.
And we are all to become desperate, as desperation is grounds for remorse.
And suddenly everything else bows down in comparison.
When the blast wave hit, the impact burned paint from the walls onto their skin, inadvertently mixing new hues of green and blue that would never bee seen again.
Human ash fell like snow as winter began around the world.
Clouds covered every inch of the earth as the survivors came out of whatever holes they found.
And the sun ceased its shine.
Radiation coupled with toxic fumes strangled whatever was left alive.
And now the real horror begins.
This is when they begin to think.

[Manic_Skafe]

Originally Posted by MSD

I won't even bother to try to break the lyrics down into "proper" lines, the erratic vocal rhythm is one of those things that shows their death metal roots. Some lines are repeated, and the third line isn't sung in full until the end (where it isn't listed in the liner notes,) but you can still read along if you can't understand the words.

Awesome song. The intro and the end are just - incredible. And while I can certainly appreciate the guitar gymnastics throughout the entire album, "Angry Mob Justice" and "Whoa! Shut It Down" are the only two stand out tracks. The breakdown on the latter is earth shattering.

Their music seems to be the direction Lamb Of God would've headed if they had more core influences than metal and if their new albums didn't suck so much.



Car Bomb should be up your alley.

[MSD]

Originally Posted by Manic_Skafe

Awesome song. The intro and the end are just - incredible. And while I can certainly appreciate the guitar gymnastics throughout the entire album, "Angry Mob Justice" and "Whoa! Shut It Down" are the only two stand out tracks. The breakdown on the latter is earth shattering.

Their music seems to be the direction Lamb Of God would've headed if they had more core influences than metal and if their new albums didn't suck so much.



Car Bomb should be up your alley.

If you like them, you should head up to Poughkeepsie for the CD release party next Saturday. Speaking of which, I need to get those tickets now.

[kutulu]

Just started listening to a band called Psycroptic, they released an album called Ob(Servant) in 2008 and have a couple of older albums that I haven't checked out yet. They fall into the technical death metal category and are from Australia.

Ob(Servant) is a solid album. Complex riffs, brutal drums. There is some variety in the vocals, despite being death metal. Everything is very tight.

Here is a song called "Slaves of Nil"

YouTube - Psycroptic - Slaves Of Nil

YouTube - Psycroptic - Slaves Of Nil