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silver26 · 06-20-2003, 05:09 AM

Ok, I've killed this post because Guccilvr made me realize I was a hypocrite. haha. Nah, I knew that before. No seriously, I hate to see people beat some things to death... the St.Arguments, the avril, nu-metal, creed, sum 41, (insert an artist people complain about) sucks.

So if you are gonna complain... complain about something worth while like Eminem lip syncing or AC DC being old.

cheers,
silver
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Derwood · 06-20-2003, 05:28 AM

Though a couple of my posts may bely this, I have always tried to state that "I don't like Band X" as opposed to "Band X sucks." Sure its semantics, but it makes a difference. Do I like Justin Timberlake? Not really. Do I think he sucks? No, he can sing 100000 times better than I can. He is successful for a reason. I don't have to like his music, however.

BTW, I agree with you on the Metallica disc. I like it more and more with repeated listenings. As I've said in other threads, stop living in Metallica's past, and if you really want to hear something that sounds like "Master of Puppets," go listen to "Master of Puppets"

Sparhawk · 06-20-2003, 05:56 AM

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Originally posted by silver26
... 4. And now we get to St. Anger... nearly everyone shits on this. kirk has no solos, the production is crap, the signing sucks, the bass blows... blah blah blah. All of you dicks why aren't open enough to new music to give this cd more than 2 spins should sit down with the cd and listen to the songs moreso than the production. St. Anger is a raw, awesome album that brings Metallica to a new Dimension. Its down to earth and sounds live... the way it should be. They made this like this INTENTIONALLY. if you don't think its great after 4 or 5 spins, you don't know anything about Hard Rock. ...

Here you go:

So, since they INTENTIONALLY made it suck, I suppose I should appreciate it for its suckiness? Well, if you phrase it like that, sure....

Oh wait, no. I've seen them twice, and both times they had 10x the energy that I hear in this album, but more importantly, they didn't sound like ass scraping on sandpaper.

silver26 · 06-20-2003, 09:55 AM

They've given us so much good shit, since you think St.Anger sucks, give them a break. Metallica is one of the most important mainstream metal acts ever. If they wanna switch it up a little, let them. If they wanna sound like 'ass scrapping on sandpaper' let em.

And I wasn't out of context there. There are mistakes in the signing, the production is horrible, and the bass isn't the best. They did not want to make a perfect album like the 'Black Album', they didn't want to beat the songs to shit. They wanted to go in a make it sound like 4 guys playing heavy music in a garage. They captured a lot of energy and I think its great.

the end. No more St. Anger arguing for me. Its beat to death.

Thanx for the reply Sparhawk

Cheers

Glory's Sun · 06-20-2003, 11:07 AM

First off everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled to an opinion. If I like a band and someone else says they suck BIG DEAL? I don't take it personally. That's why we have so many different genres of music. Everyone likes different things. If someone wants to blast Metalliaca and dog them then fine, if someone wants to praise them fine. If someone wants to flame Avril who cares if someone praises her who cares. Just because people have an opinion on something doesn't make them closed-minded. It just means they are different than you. Sure maybe the metallica thing is overdone but really what's the big deal?

Silver26- You're quote about people not liking St. Anger after 4 or 5 spins means somone doesn't know anything about hard rock is bullshit. You've just become a slave to something that you were ranting about to start with. You blast people for complaining about music and yet here you are complaining about people. If someone has a thread about how they don't like a band either don't participate in it or constructively post why you think it's a good band/album. Don't bitch about it.

silver26 · 06-20-2003, 11:28 AM

Point taken. I'm a hypocrite. And Ill admit it.

The best way to make people stop bitching about something, probably isn't to start bitching at them.

I'm just sick of people complaing about the same stupid things.

bleeckerx · 06-20-2003, 11:38 AM

im glad people are bitching. Its nice to see there are some discerning listeners out there who understand that alot of the big music acts these days are pathetic. All of the bands u named and rushed to defend really are doing more damage then good to the modern music scene.

I encourage people to demand more from modern artists, and to expect better quality of music in general. This is a good thing,not a bad. Perhaps we can find a better way to articulate our problems with these artists then rampant flames.. but still, creed REALLY does suck.

silver26 · 06-20-2003, 11:38 AM

In the words of Stan from South Park "I've learned something today." Although I tend to disagree with 90% of fans music opinions, they are just opinions - everyone is entitled to one, If there was no opinions, you would have communism. The fans are what keep the music industry going. I shouldn't be picking up for people that get to make millions of dollars to play music.

Keep on Flaming is my new motto.

Peetster · 06-20-2003, 01:01 PM

Silver26, I think "Keep on Flaming" as a motto and an attitude will not get you very far.

silver26 · 06-20-2003, 01:15 PM

Probably not, but maybe you read it out of context... I meant that Im leaving it be... keep on flaming the artists as you like is what I meant. Not flaming me.

Enough bout this shit <A HREF="http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12086"> PLAY THE MUSIC LINK GAME ALREADY </A>

shinji · 06-20-2003, 01:23 PM

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Originally posted by silver26
The fans are what keep the music industry going.

but then again, the "industry" is exactly what's killing pop music.

bleeckerx · 06-20-2003, 09:16 PM

thats why underground music is the best : )

nate_dawg · 06-21-2003, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by shinji
but then again, the "industry" is exactly what's killing pop music.

pop music should be killed........

Jadey · 06-22-2003, 06:44 PM

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Originally posted by Derwood
Though a couple of my posts may bely this, I have always tried to state that "I don't like Band X" as opposed to "Band X sucks." Sure its semantics, but it makes a difference. Do I like Justin Timberlake? Not really. Do I think he sucks? No, he can sing 100000 times better than I can. He is successful for a reason. I don't have to like his music, however.

Couldn't have said it any better myself.

shinji · 06-23-2003, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by nate_dawg
pop music should be killed........

you have a skewed definition of what pop music is.

nate_dawg · 06-23-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by shinji
you have a skewed definition of what pop music is.

oh?

and you can tell this how?

skewed definition or not, I dont like it, and that's just my opinion.

OMFUG · 06-24-2003, 12:20 PM

Opinions are like assholes... everyone has thenm, and there are lots of shitty ones. (insert evil grin here)

silver26 · 06-24-2003, 01:05 PM

HAHA thas awesome... its gonna be my new Signature. Thanx!

06-20-2003, 05:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
silver26 Insane	This goes out to the flamers. Ok, I've killed this post because Guccilvr made me realize I was a hypocrite. haha. Nah, I knew that before. No seriously, I hate to see people beat some things to death... the St.Arguments, the avril, nu-metal, creed, sum 41, (insert an artist people complain about) sucks. So if you are gonna complain... complain about something worth while like Eminem lip syncing or AC DC being old. cheers, silver <BR><BR> <CENTER><A HREF="http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12086&highlight=music+link"><FONT SIZE="5" COLOR="#FFFF00" FACE="COMIC SANS MS">Play the Music Link Game on the TFP!</FONT></A></CENTER> Last edited by silver26; 06-20-2003 at 11:37 AM..

06-20-2003, 05:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	Though a couple of my posts may bely this, I have always tried to state that "I don't like Band X" as opposed to "Band X sucks." Sure its semantics, but it makes a difference. Do I like Justin Timberlake? Not really. Do I think he sucks? No, he can sing 100000 times better than I can. He is successful for a reason. I don't have to like his music, however. BTW, I agree with you on the Metallica disc. I like it more and more with repeated listenings. As I've said in other threads, stop living in Metallica's past, and if you really want to hear something that sounds like "Master of Puppets," go listen to "Master of Puppets" __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

06-20-2003, 11:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
bleeckerx Upright	im glad people are bitching. Its nice to see there are some discerning listeners out there who understand that alot of the big music acts these days are pathetic. All of the bands u named and rushed to defend really are doing more damage then good to the modern music scene. I encourage people to demand more from modern artists, and to expect better quality of music in general. This is a good thing,not a bad. Perhaps we can find a better way to articulate our problems with these artists then rampant flames.. but still, creed REALLY does suck. __________________ no heros here

06-20-2003, 11:38 AM	#8 (permalink)
silver26 Insane	In the words of Stan from South Park "I've learned something today." Although I tend to disagree with 90% of fans music opinions, they are just opinions - everyone is entitled to one, If there was no opinions, you would have communism. The fans are what keep the music industry going. I shouldn't be picking up for people that get to make millions of dollars to play music. Keep on Flaming is my new motto. Last edited by silver26; 06-20-2003 at 11:49 AM..

06-20-2003, 09:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
bleeckerx Upright	thats why underground music is the best : ) __________________ no heros here

06-20-2003, 09:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
silver26 Insane	They've given us so much good shit, since you think St.Anger sucks, give them a break. Metallica is one of the most important mainstream metal acts ever. If they wanna switch it up a little, let them. If they wanna sound like 'ass scrapping on sandpaper' let em. And I wasn't out of context there. There are mistakes in the signing, the production is horrible, and the bass isn't the best. They did not want to make a perfect album like the 'Black Album', they didn't want to beat the songs to shit. They wanted to go in a make it sound like 4 guys playing heavy music in a garage. They captured a lot of energy and I think its great. the end. No more St. Anger arguing for me. Its beat to death. Thanx for the reply Sparhawk Cheers

06-20-2003, 11:07 AM	#5 (permalink)
Glory's Sun Registered User	First off everyone has an opinion and everyone is entitled to an opinion. If I like a band and someone else says they suck BIG DEAL? I don't take it personally. That's why we have so many different genres of music. Everyone likes different things. If someone wants to blast Metalliaca and dog them then fine, if someone wants to praise them fine. If someone wants to flame Avril who cares if someone praises her who cares. Just because people have an opinion on something doesn't make them closed-minded. It just means they are different than you. Sure maybe the metallica thing is overdone but really what's the big deal? Silver26- You're quote about people not liking St. Anger after 4 or 5 spins means somone doesn't know anything about hard rock is bullshit. You've just become a slave to something that you were ranting about to start with. You blast people for complaining about music and yet here you are complaining about people. If someone has a thread about how they don't like a band either don't participate in it or constructively post why you think it's a good band/album. Don't bitch about it.

06-20-2003, 11:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
silver26 Insane	Point taken. I'm a hypocrite. And Ill admit it. The best way to make people stop bitching about something, probably isn't to start bitching at them. I'm just sick of people complaing about the same stupid things.

06-20-2003, 01:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
Peetster Right Now Location: Home	Silver26, I think "Keep on Flaming" as a motto and an attitude will not get you very far.

06-20-2003, 01:15 PM	#10 (permalink)
silver26 Insane	Probably not, but maybe you read it out of context... I meant that Im leaving it be... keep on flaming the artists as you like is what I meant. Not flaming me. Enough bout this shit <A HREF="http://tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12086"> PLAY THE MUSIC LINK GAME ALREADY </A>

06-24-2003, 12:20 PM	#17 (permalink)
OMFUG Insane Location: Philly	Opinions are like assholes... everyone has thenm, and there are lots of shitty ones. (insert evil grin here) __________________ This space intentionally left blank.

06-24-2003, 01:05 PM	#18 (permalink)
silver26 Insane	HAHA thas awesome... its gonna be my new Signature. Thanx! __________________ I know I was born and I know that I'll die, the inbetween is mine.