Koenigsegg CC8S - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Hanxter · 06-02-2003, 10:11 AM

Now the goodies...

General specifications

Country of origin Sweden
Year of introduction 2002
Introduced at 2002 Geneva Motorshow
Numbers built N/A
Body design N/A
Weight 1170 kg / 2579.4 lbs

Drivetrain

Engine Ford Cobra SVT 90º V8
Engine location Mid, longitudinally mounted
Displacement 4.601 liter / 280.8 cu in
Valvetrain 4 valves/cylinder, DOHC
Fuel feed Fuel injection
Aspiration Supercharger
Gearbox 6 Speed Manual
Drive Rear wheel drive

Performance figures

Power 655 bhp / 488.6 kW @ 6800 rpm
BHP/Liter 142.4
Torque 750 Nm / 553.2 ft lbs @ 5000 rpm
Power to weight ratio 0.56 bhp/kg
Top Speed 242.3 mph / 390.0 km/h
0-60 mph Acceleration 3.40 s

JStrider · 06-02-2003, 10:37 AM

oooooo pretty car.... id drive it...

DEI37 · 06-02-2003, 05:53 PM

Ewww...Ford Drivetrain...why'd they ruin an otherwise nice car?

WarWagon · 06-02-2003, 06:21 PM

Amen to that, DEI. You just don't put American "muscle" in a foreign exotic. You'd think they'd opt for something with a little more finesse.

I dont mind it other than that. Kind of looks like a McLaren's fat baby brother.

Atomic Pinkie · 06-03-2003, 12:30 AM

fat baby brother LOL

I like the look but would have to agree....bleh

ARRH · 06-03-2003, 06:38 AM

yeah i love this car. i remember seeing it at the geneva motor show. i was amazed. i love the windscreen. looks like a cockpit

DEI37 · 06-03-2003, 03:14 PM

I think the motor to use for this car would be a BMW V12 powerplant be it "M"-ified or not. The car looks good, but I'd use the BMW motor. Can't be much bigger than the Ford 4.6 S/C, can it?

nash · 06-05-2003, 09:45 AM

Just because they put a Ford drivetrain it's now a horrible car? That's a very shallow thing to say.

3x0 · 06-05-2003, 11:30 AM

"BHP/Liter 142.4 "
omfg

These guys at Koenigsegg should teach rest how to do extreme engines
Race cars are often below that :E

focalevo · 06-05-2003, 03:43 PM

I like the idea of mixing euro exotica with american muscle, and the end result is an amazing car!!

I'm sure no one would complain about the Ford heart if it were parked in their garage.

DEI37 · 06-05-2003, 07:15 PM

142.4 HP/Liter beating race engines?!?!

M-B/Penske Indy 500 engine: 950hp (conservative...actual in the 1000-1100hp range) from 2.65 Liters = 358.5 HP/Liter This engine was turbocharged with a pushrod actuated valve train. They run on methanol.

Winston Cup engines: 750-800hp from 5.7 Liters = 131.6 - 140.4 HP/Liter These engines are naturally aspirated with a pushrod actuated valve train. They run on a high octane version of pump gas.

I don't know specs for F1 engines, but the old school Indy Car engines were in excess of 300hp/liter...15 years ago. NWC motors would be better off with fuel injection. They'd probably see a boost of 50hp without any other mods to the motor. Tune it be a fuelie, and they may see 65-70hp more. I realize these comparisons are a little off, since the Ford engine is blown with fuel injection and an OHC valvetrain versus the small displacement, blown, pushrod, fuel injected CART engines and the large displacement, carbuerated, pushrod NWC engines. But, you get the idea. They are just now getting 140+ HP/Liter from a boosted engine. CART & NWC have been at or substantially above these levels for a long time, one with small displacement and high revs, the other with old school pushrods, carbuerators, and large displacement.

Oh, to clarify myself on the Ford engine choice. I didn't say the motor was bad, although there are better alternatives in cost, and power. I'm just saying that that motor choice in that car is poor. Even a LS6 from the C5 ZO6 would be out of place in that car. That's why I mentioned the BMW V-12. It's a solid piece that costs less than Ferrari or Lamborghini alternatives. It makes good power, is smooth, and sounds nice.
Oh, and I don't like Ford, just for the record.

Eeks! That was long.

thadon · 06-06-2003, 05:58 AM

sweet ride ... but too damn expensive I bet

0001 · 06-06-2003, 10:07 AM

Coolest Cars:

Mclaren F1
Koenigsegg CC
Murcielago
etc etc etc

SpikeQX99 · 06-28-2003, 09:06 PM

Holy shit! That's like F'n Transformers yo. I bet there's a robot face underneath that car somewhere, and a laser gun too! Sweet stuff.

tobasco72 · 06-28-2003, 09:41 PM

nice!! it looks rad and is powered by a ford motor

tobasco72 · 06-28-2003, 09:41 PM

reminds me of my fav car of all time. the Pantera

deathbygaetano · 06-29-2003, 01:19 AM

On the styling: Kinda looks likes a guy at VW got a hold of a 360 Modena.

Apart from that, let's not bash Ford too much. They did come out with some wonderful cars. Anyone remember the GT 40? Any of the Shelby's. Hell, the Ford Lola cars? And no, I don't even really like Ford the brand much at all. I just think that the Mustang engine may have been a good choice because it's dirt cheap and it produces a whole lot of power. It's probably also a stab at Le Mans. The Corvettes and Dodges are beating the hell out of Ferrari and even Porsche because they use engines that have a rediculous amount of displacement and produces lots of power at low revs. Anything that revs higher is at a disadvantage because of the air restrictor plates they use.
<a href="http://media.gm.com/gmracing/endurance/lemans/corvette_technology.pdf">http://media.gm.com/gmracing/enduran...technology.pdf</a>

Corvette says it all themselves. Anyhow, the mustang engine makes sense.... ok, ok. Not that much sense. But if they enter Le Mans, we all know why they put a big 'ol 'merican engine in it.

At risk of making this too long, I'd like to add that the CART cars make that much horsepower because they're not road cars and they rev up to 11k rpm or whatever it is. But that fact that this may be street legal and make 145 hp a liter is still pretty impressive.

Oh yeah, the new Bugatti only makes 125 hp/liter or so. With how many turbos?

deathbygaetano · 06-29-2003, 01:25 AM

Ok , I missed the part where DEI37 was clarifying for 3x0 that race engines were not below 140 hp/liter. But I think it's still impressive for a street car. Which is what it seems like they're aiming at here.

Snoogans · 06-29-2003, 01:02 PM

Even if I have to lie, steal and kill, that car will be mine.

Cynthetiq · 06-30-2003, 09:46 PM

mmmmm pretty car

Bike-Mad · 07-01-2003, 01:05 AM

Just saw them test drive one of those on UK TV last week,

ONE WORD - Brutal

06-02-2003, 10:11 AM	#1 (permalink)
Hanxter The Griffin	Koenigsegg CC8S Now the goodies... General specifications Country of origin Sweden Year of introduction 2002 Introduced at 2002 Geneva Motorshow Numbers built N/A Body design N/A Weight 1170 kg / 2579.4 lbs Drivetrain Engine Ford Cobra SVT 90º V8 Engine location Mid, longitudinally mounted Displacement 4.601 liter / 280.8 cu in Valvetrain 4 valves/cylinder, DOHC Fuel feed Fuel injection Aspiration Supercharger Gearbox 6 Speed Manual Drive Rear wheel drive Performance figures Power 655 bhp / 488.6 kW @ 6800 rpm BHP/Liter 142.4 Torque 750 Nm / 553.2 ft lbs @ 5000 rpm Power to weight ratio 0.56 bhp/kg Top Speed 242.3 mph / 390.0 km/h 0-60 mph Acceleration 3.40 s

06-02-2003, 10:37 AM	#2 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	oooooo pretty car.... id drive it... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

06-02-2003, 05:53 PM	#3 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	Ewww...Ford Drivetrain...why'd they ruin an otherwise nice car? __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

06-03-2003, 12:30 AM	#5 (permalink)
Atomic Pinkie Addict Location: Chicago	fat baby brother LOL I like the look but would have to agree....bleh __________________ Where dem bitches at?

06-03-2003, 03:14 PM	#7 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	I think the motor to use for this car would be a BMW V12 powerplant be it "M"-ified or not. The car looks good, but I'd use the BMW motor. Can't be much bigger than the Ford 4.6 S/C, can it? __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

06-02-2003, 06:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
WarWagon Loser	Amen to that, DEI. You just don't put American "muscle" in a foreign exotic. You'd think they'd opt for something with a little more finesse. I dont mind it other than that. Kind of looks like a McLaren's fat baby brother.

06-03-2003, 06:38 AM	#6 (permalink)
ARRH Insane	yeah i love this car. i remember seeing it at the geneva motor show. i was amazed. i love the windscreen. looks like a cockpit

06-05-2003, 09:45 AM	#8 (permalink)
nash Psycho	Just because they put a Ford drivetrain it's now a horrible car? That's a very shallow thing to say.

06-05-2003, 11:30 AM	#9 (permalink)
3x0 Insane	"BHP/Liter 142.4 " omfg These guys at Koenigsegg should teach rest how to do extreme engines Race cars are often below that :E

06-05-2003, 03:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
focalevo Tilted Location: Southern PA	I like the idea of mixing euro exotica with american muscle, and the end result is an amazing car!! I'm sure no one would complain about the Ford heart if it were parked in their garage. __________________ 'middle finger is the flag that I waive when I am silenced' -Mudvayne

06-05-2003, 07:15 PM	#11 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	142.4 HP/Liter beating race engines?!?! M-B/Penske Indy 500 engine: 950hp (conservative...actual in the 1000-1100hp range) from 2.65 Liters = 358.5 HP/Liter This engine was turbocharged with a pushrod actuated valve train. They run on methanol. Winston Cup engines: 750-800hp from 5.7 Liters = 131.6 - 140.4 HP/Liter These engines are naturally aspirated with a pushrod actuated valve train. They run on a high octane version of pump gas. I don't know specs for F1 engines, but the old school Indy Car engines were in excess of 300hp/liter...15 years ago. NWC motors would be better off with fuel injection. They'd probably see a boost of 50hp without any other mods to the motor. Tune it be a fuelie, and they may see 65-70hp more. I realize these comparisons are a little off, since the Ford engine is blown with fuel injection and an OHC valvetrain versus the small displacement, blown, pushrod, fuel injected CART engines and the large displacement, carbuerated, pushrod NWC engines. But, you get the idea. They are just now getting 140+ HP/Liter from a boosted engine. CART & NWC have been at or substantially above these levels for a long time, one with small displacement and high revs, the other with old school pushrods, carbuerators, and large displacement. Oh, to clarify myself on the Ford engine choice. I didn't say the motor was bad, although there are better alternatives in cost, and power. I'm just saying that that motor choice in that car is poor. Even a LS6 from the C5 ZO6 would be out of place in that car. That's why I mentioned the BMW V-12. It's a solid piece that costs less than Ferrari or Lamborghini alternatives. It makes good power, is smooth, and sounds nice. Oh, and I don't like Ford, just for the record. Eeks! That was long. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised. Last edited by DEI37; 06-05-2003 at 07:22 PM..

06-06-2003, 05:58 AM	#12 (permalink)
thadon Cruisin thru life Location: Alpharetta, GA	sweet ride ... but too damn expensive I bet

06-06-2003, 10:07 AM	#13 (permalink)
0001 Crazy Location: Canadeh!	Coolest Cars: Mclaren F1 Koenigsegg CC Murcielago etc etc etc

06-28-2003, 09:06 PM	#14 (permalink)
SpikeQX99 The Best thing that never happened to you Location: Silverdale, WA	Holy shit! That's like F'n Transformers yo. I bet there's a robot face underneath that car somewhere, and a laser gun too! Sweet stuff. __________________ I'm so in love with a girl... she is my everything

06-28-2003, 09:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
tobasco72 Crazy Location: Back water ass Arkansas	nice!! it looks rad and is powered by a ford motor

06-30-2003, 09:46 PM	#20 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	mmmmm pretty car __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

06-28-2003, 09:41 PM	#16 (permalink)
tobasco72 Crazy Location: Back water ass Arkansas	reminds me of my fav car of all time. the Pantera

06-29-2003, 01:19 AM	#17 (permalink)
deathbygaetano Upright	On the styling: Kinda looks likes a guy at VW got a hold of a 360 Modena. Apart from that, let's not bash Ford too much. They did come out with some wonderful cars. Anyone remember the GT 40? Any of the Shelby's. Hell, the Ford Lola cars? And no, I don't even really like Ford the brand much at all. I just think that the Mustang engine may have been a good choice because it's dirt cheap and it produces a whole lot of power. It's probably also a stab at Le Mans. The Corvettes and Dodges are beating the hell out of Ferrari and even Porsche because they use engines that have a rediculous amount of displacement and produces lots of power at low revs. Anything that revs higher is at a disadvantage because of the air restrictor plates they use. <a href="http://media.gm.com/gmracing/endurance/lemans/corvette_technology.pdf">http://media.gm.com/gmracing/enduran...technology.pdf</a> Corvette says it all themselves. Anyhow, the mustang engine makes sense.... ok, ok. Not that much sense. But if they enter Le Mans, we all know why they put a big 'ol 'merican engine in it. At risk of making this too long, I'd like to add that the CART cars make that much horsepower because they're not road cars and they rev up to 11k rpm or whatever it is. But that fact that this may be street legal and make 145 hp a liter is still pretty impressive. Oh yeah, the new Bugatti only makes 125 hp/liter or so. With how many turbos?

06-29-2003, 01:25 AM	#18 (permalink)
deathbygaetano Upright	Ok , I missed the part where DEI37 was clarifying for 3x0 that race engines were not below 140 hp/liter. But I think it's still impressive for a street car. Which is what it seems like they're aiming at here.

06-29-2003, 01:02 PM	#19 (permalink)
Snoogans Veteran Location: Uppsala, Sweden	Even if I have to lie, steal and kill, that car will be mine. __________________ Internet hint: If someone's asking if what they do is weird, it always is.

07-01-2003, 01:05 AM	#21 (permalink)
Bike-Mad Upright Location: UK	Just saw them test drive one of those on UK TV last week, ONE WORD - Brutal