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Old 06-13-2004, 05:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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best OFFROAD

in your opinion What is The best off road vehicle what has the most capibility and please give reasons
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Old 06-13-2004, 06:11 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jeep Wrangler Rubicon. I dont think my breif summary of the reasons why could do it justice.

Incredible articulation, tires, lift, and unlimited potential. Very affordable too. Locking diffs (front and rear i believe). Awesome gearing and an engine with a lovely amount of low end torque ( almost 85% of usable torque at idle).
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Old 06-13-2004, 06:13 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Stock, hands down Mercedes Benz Amg55 or the old Land Rover Defenders.
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Old 06-13-2004, 06:43 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I don't believe Mercedes's ml series minivans would do well offroad. Neither would their soccer moms. However, a Mercedes g-wagen would do well. Deisel, and built originally for the Shah of Iran's border guards. When he was deposed, Mercedes was stuck with the vehicles. So they turned around and started selling them.

Jeep sounds good. Maybe a land rover
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Old 06-13-2004, 07:08 PM   #5 (permalink)
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the h1 would be on the short list, a look under the truck shows it seems to have been built solely to get the engine where ever the fuck it wants to go. passanger sitting outside and below the frame rails are a testiment to that. not to mention geared hub providing torque multiplication and additional clearnce.

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Old 06-13-2004, 08:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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H1 (as said above) hands down
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Old 06-13-2004, 08:37 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Not saying this is the best stock offroad, but the Toyota Tacoma TRD was named 4x4 of the year in 2000 by 4-Wheeler Mag as well as Off Road Mag, edging out the H1.
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Old 06-13-2004, 09:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Yeah, but you can be sure they factored price into it. The H1 is great and all, but as with the G-Wagen, its just not realistic to most everyone.
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Old 06-14-2004, 05:22 AM   #9 (permalink)
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One of the keys to being a good "offroader" is size, or lack of it actually.

The G-wagon and Hummer H1 may be able to run sand dunes and dirt roads with aplomb, but send them up a real TRAIL and their size will stop them in a heartbeat. They're too long and with the H1 too wide.

Back in college I owned an '88 Suzuki Samurai and was able to take up dirtbike trails in the mountains. There's no way an H1 could fit between the trees like the Sami did.

Since they don't make the Samurai anymore, my vote goes to the Jeep Wrangler (I also owned a '01 Wrangler Sport so I have experience with it as well). It's bigger than the Sami, but with the 4.0L six and coil sprung suspension it can't be beat.
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Old 06-14-2004, 09:04 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Just remember, you take the Rubicon off-road and it voids your warranty.
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Old 06-14-2004, 11:17 AM   #11 (permalink)
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I believe that if you subject your Rubicon (or any Jeep or other 4x4) to anything excessive and it breaks it won't be covered.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:18 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Hummer H1 is definitly the toughest.

As for my own opinon, if I was able to pick any 1 offroad vehicle I wanted, I'd pick the '78 Toyota Landcruiser FJ40. I love those things.
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:48 PM   #13 (permalink)
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pinzgauer.....hands down.....prices start around $9k....do a google search
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:56 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Yea unimogs are pretty cool. Heres a couple videos of some similar things in action, for anybody who is interested.

http://www.vintageoffroad.com/videos/uni.wmv
http://www.vintageoffroad.com/videos/rockwall.wmv
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Old 06-14-2004, 04:19 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Dirt bike. If it can't go somewhere, you can probably push it there and then keep riding it. Try that with your Wrangler

Or those 6-wheeled amphibious ATV's. You can climb around on the mountains, then cross the lake for the downward trail.
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:25 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Since you said "OFF-ROAD" and not "FOUR WHEELERS/4x4s" I will include some off-beat suggestions.

Tractors can get absolutely anywhere. Dual-wheeled rear tractors are unlikely to get stuck in anything, and can climb ridiculous grades.

If tractors aren't your type, and you don't care so much about speed, then go for a Rokon motorcycle is two wheel drive, has a 15-16 inch ground clearance, tremendously huge low pressure tires that will allow flotation in water ( get off and float it across a stream, go figure ), and can climb ridiculous grades.

Here's a link.
http://www.rokon.com/products/trailbrkr.htm

Of course they only can go 20-40 mph in top gear, but they can get into places no jeeps/mercedes benzes/cars can. Oh yeah, it can tow 3,000 pounds too.

Of course, a 4x4 ATV with a winch is unlikely to get stuck anywhere, and hauls ass...

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Old 06-14-2004, 08:37 PM   #17 (permalink)
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My personal favorite is my Polaris 500 H/O.

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It actually does very well in snow, mud and sand dunes!
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Old 06-14-2004, 08:52 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Tractors can get absolutely anywhere. Dual-wheeled rear tractors are unlikely to get stuck in anything, and can climb ridiculous grades.
Oh, it is entirely possible to stick a tractor. It just takes a little more effort.

An articulated 4 wheel drive with duals on all corners sitting up to the belly pan in mud is NOT a pretty sight.
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Old 06-14-2004, 11:05 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Rokon motorcycle is two wheel drive, has a 15-16 inch ground clearance, tremendously huge low pressure tires that will allow flotation in water ( get off and float it across a stream, go figure ), and can climb ridiculous grades.


htose are awsome
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Old 06-15-2004, 05:15 AM   #20 (permalink)
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Oh, it is entirely possible to stick a tractor. It just takes a little more effort.

An articulated 4 wheel drive with duals on all corners sitting up to the belly pan in mud is NOT a pretty sight.
Terrifying. What do you do then? Call another tractor?
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:34 AM   #21 (permalink)
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You'd have to be a huge dumbass to even try to drive through something like that.
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Old 06-15-2004, 01:57 PM   #22 (permalink)
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You'd have to be a huge dumbass to even try to drive through something like that.
Good thing he had a snorkle
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Old 06-15-2004, 02:25 PM   #23 (permalink)
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http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scite...tv_040322.html
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Old 06-15-2004, 04:57 PM   #24 (permalink)
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I have never seen natural mud that deep. That is frightning. A rokon could go through it!
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:05 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Good thing he had a snorkle
That's not a snorkel, that's the exhaust. From the look of what it's sitting in, and the honeywagon in there with it, it's not in mud....

It's in a manure pit.

Most of those pictures in that are dumbass attacks, although the 8630 (i think) in the bottom picture is forgivable. It looks like he found the only wet spot in the field, since the smaller tractor in the background seems to be doing just fine.

And he is going to need something along the lines of a D8 Caterpillar to drag him out of that hole.
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Old 06-16-2004, 12:54 PM   #26 (permalink)
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The Unimog is the best off road IMO
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Old 06-16-2004, 07:31 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I love some of the others and i know this will be an interesting idea, but for the price i paid and how well it worked with n problems and how badly i beat it senseless
i loved my old trooper
that thing just kept on going even after i crushed my two rear shocks cracked the rear struts killed the muffler and popped a tire all on one 6 foot jump off a launch and that thing still keep going with a tire change...
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:08 AM   #28 (permalink)
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The Land Rover Defender is the best there is offroad.
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:47 AM   #29 (permalink)
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Actually, the Toyota Land C is pretty good for an off-road action. But, the G-Wagon or the H1 or H2 are trully the of-road types.
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Old 06-17-2004, 05:43 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Leave the H2 off that list and it looks good.

I saw a Hummer (the real one) in Ottawa awhile ago, and on his winch he had the words " Attach H2 Here". It was the best thing I've seen in quite sometime. Even Hummer owners don't really like the H2 drivers.
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