White walls, phantom tops and Cadillacs. Why? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Krycheck · 04-24-2004, 07:55 PM

Back in the 80's and 90's this was common on Cady's. It was tacky imho but hey, they're Cadillacs. Never cared for them myself and I thought they made a decent car look ugly if not uglier.

But now Cadillac is putting out some good looking models and have finally found their niche. The average age of a Cadillac owners is dropping (my asumption from what I see) and that's a good thing. But why must I still see people ruin a good car buy putting phantom tops and white walls on a CTS's? I mean come on people. Just because it's a Cadillac must you do this?

Bad enough it took GM so long to stop putting bumper gaurds on the front bumpers

Edit: In case you don't know what I'm talking about I give you exibit A...

irseg · 04-24-2004, 09:56 PM

You should see the cars in Florida. The old farts around here will out a fake convertible top on ANYTHING. The worst examples I've seen were a new Camry, a mid-90s Chevy Lumina, and a Hyundai Elantra.

Scorps · 04-25-2004, 09:12 AM

That doesn'thave white walls...And I havn't seen one around here like that...yet!

But yesterday i saw a 99 Ford F-150 with white walls. All I could do was laugh

BoCo · 04-25-2004, 12:01 PM

I have a buddy with a '98 Caddy with white walls and they look really good. Those tops are definitely ugly, though.

merkerguitars · 04-25-2004, 12:36 PM

I run whitewalls on my 87' caddy, actually makes it look better

Krycheck · 04-25-2004, 02:00 PM

Well white walls on a Deville or Seville look good. But I saw a CTS with white walls the other day. I've also seen one or two Escalades with them also.

TM875 · 04-25-2004, 04:49 PM

I have a Mercury Grand Marquis with white wall tired. I absolutley love it! It just wouldn't be the same without them.

It's all about the model of the car. White walls would look okay on a Deville or maybe even an Escalade...but not on the (fugly) CTS. Not that anything looks good on a CTS.

silent_jay · 04-25-2004, 08:21 PM

I hate phantom tops, but I dig whitewalls on some caddy models, that CTS was just disgusting.

irseg · 04-25-2004, 08:50 PM

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Originally posted by silent_jay
I hate phantom tops, but I dig whitewalls on some caddy models, that CTS was just disgusting.

On the right car, whitewalls can improve the looks. They looked great on my '93 Cougar, since it had chrome all over the place and a formal roofline. Even the vinyl half-top doesn't look too bad on those cars, but I would never put one on.

Scorps · 04-26-2004, 08:22 AM

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Originally posted by silent_jay
I hate phantom tops, but I dig whitewalls on some caddy models, that CTS was just disgusting.

phantom tops?

you mean convertable right?

Get a sunroof they just look better!

shakran · 04-26-2004, 10:15 AM

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Originally posted by Pain Train
phantom tops?

you mean convertable right?

Get a sunroof they just look better!

No, a phantom top is when you put convertible-looking material on a regular roof to make it look like a convertible. Fools no one. Old Fart Rice, I always called it.

pocon1 · 04-26-2004, 01:04 PM

I heard Ford was really going after dealers that were doing this to Lincolns, because they did not want to market their cars to such an old audience. I hope Cadillac does the same thing and goes after the dealers with their "dealer added value".

silent_jay · 04-26-2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pain Train
phantom tops?
you mean convertable right?
Get a sunroof they just look better!

Quote:

Originally posted by shakran
No, a phantom top is when you put convertible-looking material on a regular roof to make it look like a convertible. Fools no one. Old Fart Rice, I always called it.

you beat me to it, thanks for explaining phantom tops to PT, Old Fart Rice is a good way to describe them.

hahaha · 04-26-2004, 04:13 PM

I saw a phantom top on something like a 97 ford taurus. Waste of money IMO.

silent_jay · 04-26-2004, 05:18 PM

when I was out just now saw a phantom top on a Chrysler Lebaron, what a POS.

Krycheck · 04-26-2004, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by pocon1
I heard Ford was really going after dealers that were doing this to Lincolns, because they did not want to market their cars to such an old audience. I hope Cadillac does the same thing and goes after the dealers with their "dealer added value".

That's who I blame the most. If dealers didn't make them available buyers would forget about them.

Anyone remember back in the nineties when phamtom tops were popular on lowered pick ups?

etla · 05-07-2004, 02:11 PM

Known as vinyl roofs around here. They are a great way to hide rust or severe hail damage.

04-24-2004, 07:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
Krycheck Sultana ruined my evil persona Location: Los Angeles	White walls, phantom tops and Cadillacs. Why? Back in the 80's and 90's this was common on Cady's. It was tacky imho but hey, they're Cadillacs. Never cared for them myself and I thought they made a decent car look ugly if not uglier. But now Cadillac is putting out some good looking models and have finally found their niche. The average age of a Cadillac owners is dropping (my asumption from what I see) and that's a good thing. But why must I still see people ruin a good car buy putting phantom tops and white walls on a CTS's? I mean come on people. Just because it's a Cadillac must you do this? Bad enough it took GM so long to stop putting bumper gaurds on the front bumpers Edit: In case you don't know what I'm talking about I give you exibit A... __________________ His pants are tight...but his morals are loose!! Last edited by Krycheck; 04-24-2004 at 08:21 PM..

04-25-2004, 12:01 PM	#4 (permalink)
BoCo Fear the bunny Location: Hanging off the tip of the Right Wing	I have a buddy with a '98 Caddy with white walls and they look really good. Those tops are definitely ugly, though. __________________ Activism is a way for useless people to feel important.

04-25-2004, 12:36 PM	#5 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	I run whitewalls on my 87' caddy, actually makes it look better __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985

04-25-2004, 02:00 PM	#6 (permalink)
Krycheck Sultana ruined my evil persona Location: Los Angeles	Well white walls on a Deville or Seville look good. But I saw a CTS with white walls the other day. I've also seen one or two Escalades with them also. __________________ His pants are tight...but his morals are loose!!

04-25-2004, 04:49 PM	#7 (permalink)
TM875 Addict Location: Amish-land, PA	I have a Mercury Grand Marquis with white wall tired. I absolutley love it! It just wouldn't be the same without them. It's all about the model of the car. White walls would look okay on a Deville or maybe even an Escalade...but not on the (fugly) CTS. Not that anything looks good on a CTS. __________________ "I've made only one mistake in my life. But I made it over and over and over. That was saying 'yes' when I meant 'no'. Forgive me."

04-24-2004, 09:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
irseg Junkie Location: Florida	You should see the cars in Florida. The old farts around here will out a fake convertible top on ANYTHING. The worst examples I've seen were a new Camry, a mid-90s Chevy Lumina, and a Hyundai Elantra.

04-25-2004, 09:12 AM	#3 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	That doesn'thave white walls...And I havn't seen one around here like that...yet! But yesterday i saw a 99 Ford F-150 with white walls. All I could do was laugh

04-25-2004, 08:21 PM	#8 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	I hate phantom tops, but I dig whitewalls on some caddy models, that CTS was just disgusting. __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder

04-26-2004, 01:04 PM	#12 (permalink)
pocon1 Banned	I heard Ford was really going after dealers that were doing this to Lincolns, because they did not want to market their cars to such an old audience. I hope Cadillac does the same thing and goes after the dealers with their "dealer added value".

04-26-2004, 04:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
hahaha Insane	I saw a phantom top on something like a 97 ford taurus. Waste of money IMO. __________________ "find what's good and make it last" -Bouncing Souls

04-26-2004, 05:18 PM	#15 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	when I was out just now saw a phantom top on a Chrysler Lebaron, what a POS. __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder

05-07-2004, 02:11 PM	#17 (permalink)
etla Junkie Location: Canada eh?	Known as vinyl roofs around here. They are a great way to hide rust or severe hail damage. __________________ Subvert the Dominant Paradigm