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Old 03-15-2004, 11:33 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Focus vs Integra?

Hey, im thorn since a few weeks between selling my Integra for a focus. So i was wondering if there is somebody who can post nice modified focus vs nice modified integras.

I got an 94 TEG and I wish to buy myself a ZX3
horspower vs horsepower is mostley the same 140hp ... Right?
Heard there was no redline in the focus.... right?
and my teg has 215 000 km and a 2000focus (well the one i saw) 75 000km.

So tell me the good and the bad... well what you think
And if there are some people that feel corney they can change the type of car I should buy insted of a focus ( IN THE SAME PRICE alright)

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Old 03-15-2004, 12:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The choice is yours, but IMO you're going to get better handling/have more options out of the 'teg.

Whoever told you that a car's motor has no redline, well, go and slap them in the face. Even if a set of gauges doesn't have a red line on the cluster, does not mean that you can rev the motor as high as you want without consequences.
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Old 03-15-2004, 01:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The choice is yours, but IMO you're going to get better handling/have more options out of the 'teg.

Whoever told you that a car's motor has no redline, well, go and slap them in the face. Even if a set of gauges doesn't have a red line on the cluster, does not mean that you can rev the motor as high as you want without consequences.
Every Engine has a redline... its the point in which the gears need to be switched... Without a redline you could run top speed in first gear.. NOW what since does that makew...

Im an american fan but the focus to me is kinda ugly but hell of alot cheaper..

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Old 03-15-2004, 02:52 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I would highly recomend staying with your Integra or something else besides a Focus. My friend got a Focus SVT about 3 months ago and its been in the shop 7 times. Yesterday he drove it to the Honda dealer and traded it in for a RSX.
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Old 03-16-2004, 05:34 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Thanks for the info, really helpful.
keep em coming if you have more to tell.
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Old 03-16-2004, 06:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Did they ever fix that problem with wheels falling off of the Focus? How about the engine fire thing?
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Old 03-16-2004, 07:05 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Doesn't the focus have the record for the most recalls on a single model of car? I remember hearing that somewhere; thats a title no manufacturer should be proud of.
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:36 AM   #8 (permalink)
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the red line is the point at which you start to risk mechanical failure the crank can only spin so fast befor the forces of gravity would destroy it thats why stock four bangers have high red lines then say a stock v8 the four banger spins less weight in its smaller crank every motor has to have one but having a high one doesnt really matter.
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Old 03-17-2004, 03:06 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Hehe, no engine redline because there's no red line on the tach, eh? That's a good one! Reminds me of the idiots who think an 80s Mustang GT tops out at 85mph whereas their 90 hp Honda can go 130+ because that's what the speedometers go up to.

I prefer to buy American cars, but the Focus is junk.
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Old 03-17-2004, 09:26 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Go for a Acura RSX

damn nice car and you can mod the nuts out of it!
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Old 03-17-2004, 12:33 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Go for a Acura RSX

damn nice car and you can mod the nuts out of it!
And you have to if you want it to handle like the Integra did stock.

Stick with the teg. It's a great car, and you have a lot of options for it. You didn't mention which trim level it is. If it's the GS or RS you have the regular B18. If it's the GS-R, you have the B18-C, which has VTEC. If it's the Type R, you have the B18-C5, which is the 195hp VTEC. You can always throw a type-R engine into a non-type-R teg.
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Old 03-17-2004, 01:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Focus vs Integra?

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I got an 94 TEG and I wish to buy myself a ZX3
horspower vs horsepower is mostley the same 140hp ... Right?
Heard there was no redline in the focus.... right?
and my teg has 215 000 km and a 2000focus (well the one i saw) 75 000km.
Though there are some engines that have no "redline" (the intake or exhust is so restrictive they run out of air before they blow up) the 2.0L found in the zx3 focus isn't one of them. It's redline is 6800 rpm. Ford in their wisdom just doesn't mark it on the tach instead they install a rev limiter at 6750
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Old 03-17-2004, 01:44 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Hey, all I can say is that I was hit HARD by a GMC Envoy in my little Focus, and I was able to literally walk away. Don't know if I can say that about the Acura.

Regardless, you can get a Zetec engine up to nearly 200hp if you know how. The PZEV is newer, but I think it has some pretty nice oppurtunities to go along with it.
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Old 03-17-2004, 01:51 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Go with the teg......the wallet is the only limit when it comes to souping up a VTEC engine...
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:12 PM   #15 (permalink)
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id stick with the integra as well.. so many options available.. maybe even look for a newer one.. '97+?..
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Old 03-18-2004, 07:57 AM   #16 (permalink)
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And you have to if you want it to handle like the Integra did stock.

Stick with the teg. It's a great car, and you have a lot of options for it. You didn't mention which trim level it is. If it's the GS or RS you have the regular B18. If it's the GS-R, you have the B18-C, which has VTEC. If it's the Type R, you have the B18-C5, which is the 195hp VTEC. You can always throw a type-R engine into a non-type-R teg.

I took a RSX for a test drive when they first came out, and seemed to handle fine to me....but hell we all like different kinds of cars!
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:12 AM   #17 (permalink)
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i wouldn't get a focus - they have big reliability problems, it's always recall after recall. Why it won all those accolades is beyond me cuz i thought quality was a big factor in any award.

stick with your teg or get another teg.. maybe a used RSX - I drive one and i love it. There's also bigger aftermarket support if you stick with honda.
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:34 AM   #18 (permalink)
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I have a focus. No major problems yet, and it is a nice car, but I can already see thats it aint the most durable of cars. I'm tradinig it at 150 000kms. Ford's rev limiter is very crude though. It cuts abruptly and jerks the car back quite a bit. I lost a quarter mile to a GTI once when that happened.
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Old 03-18-2004, 11:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
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focus = the suck.
just my humble opinion. stick with what you got. If you are really looking to make some changes and spend some dough, just fix up your car some.
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Old 03-18-2004, 05:11 PM   #20 (permalink)
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focus = the suck.
just my humble opinion. stick with what you got. If you are really looking to make some changes and spend some dough, just fix up your car some.
Stay with Acura or get a GM!


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Old 03-18-2004, 05:39 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I took a RSX for a test drive when they first came out, and seemed to handle fine to me....but hell we all like different kinds of cars!
don't get me wrong - the RSX handles very nicely, but doesn't have that razor sharp handling that the Teg had. Its because Honda is cheaping out on most of its cars now and going with McP struts rather than their awesome double wishbone suspension they used to have in everything.

I found the RSX to be much more tail-happy than the teg as well, even after I pulled the test car into a gas station and adjusted the tire pressures (that surprised the salesman
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Old 03-19-2004, 10:23 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Its because Honda is cheaping out on most of its cars now and going with McP struts rather than their awesome double wishbone suspension they used to have in everything.
Cheap is a lot of it but it is also a packaging and assembilly issue. A-arms take up a lot of space compared to struts. And a strut type suspension sub assembilly has less attachment points than the same sub assembilly using A arms. Makes for a faster final assembilly line.
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Old 03-19-2004, 10:24 AM   #23 (permalink)
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don't get me wrong - the RSX handles very nicely, but doesn't have that razor sharp handling that the Teg had. Its because Honda is cheaping out on most of its cars now and going with McP struts rather than their awesome double wishbone suspension they used to have in everything.

I found the RSX to be much more tail-happy than the teg as well, even after I pulled the test car into a gas station and adjusted the tire pressures (that surprised the salesman

Well I never got the chance yet to drive a older teg...the RSX is the only car made by Honda that I have drivin!


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