Death_alive

Hey this past weekend was the barret-jackson automotive auction. Ever looked at it? if you didnt well your missing out.

If you like old cars its for you, and if you want to know more about cars its for you, and if you are bored out and theres nothing in that t.v. well it would of been for you.

still lets get to the point...
I dont understand why a 1997 ferrari sold for 93 000$
I dont understand why a 2001 ferrari sold for 110 000$
And I mostly dont understand why an 1932 or so chevy sold for 400 000$
the highest priced cars where almost all old american cars(well i understand why the shelby are so pricy).
Thus here is the question:

Would you pay more for an old hot rod Or you would pay for a
new recent car (ex: Ferrari , Aston Martin, Saleen S7...etc)

In my case it would of been a new recent car with nice leather seats and killer sound.
Anyway tell me whats better for you.

And for more info on past auctions from barret-jackson go to:
http://www.barret-jackson.com


P.S. Can you explain me why old american cars are worth more than, old Jags, mercedes, ferrari, porsche etc

asudevil83

i think different years have different types of cars that people are interested in. for example, i think this year was really dominated by the hemi's and shelby's for some reason. it just has to do with who's there looking to shell out money.

i also know that some things really do affect the value of cars. having a spotless ferrari that has been restored with aftermarket parts or parts that arent original to that exact car REALLY affect its value.

i went to the show a couple years back, and its a GREAT place to go and spend the entire day looking at amazing cars up close. they have so many perfect cars, some of which i have never ever seen.

Peryn

For the most part, i think just getting in a Barret-Jackson auction is a good deal...your pretty much garaunteed to get overpaid for your car. I mean some of these cars gonig for hundreds of thousands it just rediculous. But they are incredibly fun to watch and ogle at the cars.

On the other hand, it would be a great place to go if i had 20grand to toss around. I mean some of those cars go dirt cheap. When you can get an old roadster that is perfectly restored, and essentially brand new for cheaper than a lot of NEW cars....i think it would be awesome. Cars tend to be overpriced, but there are some GREAT deals to be had sometimes.

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stingc

That's because the reactions that people have today over american cars had no basis in the 60's.

There were some American cars back then which were completely badass. For example, the L88 corvette that was sold could destroy a modern Z06 in a straight line (someone I talked to once owned both). The feel of those cars is also unequaled by modern cars that may be just as fast. There's a great adrenaline rush to get from driving something without refinement.

Ferraris and Porsches of the time were much slower than these super special editions that you're focusing on.

In the end, people buy these cars because they want to own a legend, not because its the fastest car they can afford. The engines of the time can be reproduced today without much work, but its not the same to some people unless it was put there by the factory.

Why do you not understand the prices on the newer ferrari's? They're not exactly cheap when new.

The 32 Chevy was probably historically significant one of a kind type of thing. I don't know anything about cars that old.

CS733t

I was at the auction....BADASS cars...but mostly old muscle

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asudevil83

do you live in AZ CS, or did you just venture down to scottsdale for the show?

CS733t

ya i'm here in AZ

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tfin

It all boils down to what people want and who is there to bid. I have watched the B-J auctions for years now. I have seen cars that did not sell one year go through the roof the next. It is all in who is there to bid you up or not.

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89transam

The L88 may have FELT faster but I guarentee the Z06 would absolutly slaughter it.

Heres from a quick google

"Car Life magazine road tested an L88 street Corvette in 1969 with rather indifferent results. With a Turbo 400 and 3.36 gears, the acceleration figures were 0-60 in 6.8 seconds and quarter-mile time of 14.10 seconds at 106.89 mph. It wasn’t a good combination for the street. "


"The Z06 will continue to be outfitted with the unique six-speed manual transmission for 2002. It will enable skilled drivers to achieve 0-60 mph times of 3.9 seconds and to cover a quarter mile in 12.4 seconds at 116 mph. By comparison, the 2001 powertrain combination achieved 0-60 mph in 4.0 seconds and the quarter mile in 12.6 seconds at 114 mph. "

stingc

There are a couple of odd things about those cars that make your conclusions incorrect. First of all, 1960's tires were absolute garbage. Modern tires improve the times *a lot*.

Second, I was cheating a little. L88's were meant to be race cars that you could get through the dealer. As such, they were sold essentially with the directions "Ditch the exhaust manifolds. They're only there because of noise laws." The carb was jetted completely wrong for the stock manifolds, and cam was designed for revving way over their limit. A set of headers added over 100 hp to those cars (definitely not normal!), and so everyone added it. Adding headers to a Z06 won't do very much at all.

The guy I mentioned had both of his cars dyno'd. The L88 had headers, but no other mods. It made 480 rwhp. The Z06 made 350...

thisGuyIsCool

I'd pay more money for a new car most definitely. There's a replacement for displacement contrary to popular belief and it's called new technology.

Death_alive

I Agree with you, still I wouldn't say no to a nice shelby

440sixpack

And the best of both worlds would be displacement with new technology!

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BigTruck1956

Agreed. In 1969 the L89 motor (less powerful than the L88) was rated at 435 hp, the maximum hp that a production car was allowed to have at the time......The L88 was subsequently rated at 435+ hp.....