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Old 01-22-2004, 10:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Wish I had a V8

Finally found a way to link to images, a few month ago I mentioned my Porsche V8 conversion, well over the winter break I decided to make some progress.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...hreadid=144986
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Old 01-22-2004, 10:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 01-24-2004, 10:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I want a v8 in my stang too
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Old 01-24-2004, 11:23 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I gotta V8 in my truck, it sure does help when I'm hauling my boat
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Old 01-24-2004, 11:33 PM   #5 (permalink)
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i wish my ford explorer had a v8... or atleast a decent v6.... i cant even hold 75mph going up a hill on the highway... its pretty lame...
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Old 01-25-2004, 12:12 AM   #6 (permalink)
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do you have the 4.2? or is it an older model?
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Old 01-25-2004, 12:36 PM   #7 (permalink)
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93.... im pretty sure its a 4.0.... somewhere i read it had like 150 or so horsepower... i dont really know... i just know it doesnt seem to be enough...
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Old 01-25-2004, 01:01 PM   #8 (permalink)
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you are right it is the 4.0, the 4.2 V6 is the new V6, i have the 4.6 V8 in my F150

But I may be just preaching to the choir
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Old 01-26-2004, 06:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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4.6 v8 in my cougar. that thing can haul. I can never go any lower ever again. I refuse to.
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Old 01-26-2004, 10:53 PM   #10 (permalink)
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dang nice conversion.......cant beat a v8!
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Old 01-27-2004, 04:59 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Oh yes you can!

The finest engines in my opinion come with cylinders in multiples of 6: BMW's in-line 6, Porsche's boxer flat 6...
The very best engines have traditionally always had 12 cylinders; they make v8's sound lumpy and unrefined, tend to have a better top end (rev higher), and are just much better all round.
There, I said it.

Zephog you must be commended on doing something that appears to be wholly illogical Congratulations!
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:04 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Oh yes you can!

The finest engines in my opinion come with cylinders in multiples of 6: BMW's in-line 6, Porsche's boxer flat 6...
The very best engines have traditionally always had 12 cylinders; they make v8's sound lumpy and unrefined, tend to have a better top end (rev higher), and are just much better all round.
There, I said it.

Zephog you must be commended on doing something that appears to be wholly illogical Congratulations!
Ya V12's will always be better, but think of the gas those things suck up!
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:27 AM   #13 (permalink)
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So, if I just get a few 4 cylinders together, I'll make myself a "Y"12.
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Old 01-27-2004, 11:50 AM   #14 (permalink)
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what is better a V12 or a W16?
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Old 01-27-2004, 02:13 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I can't really recall any good V12s... Sure it sounds awsome and gives a fella mad bragging rights but looking at it by hp/cu.i or hp/lbs. they all suck it up. The V12 in the McLaren F1, which is probably the pinnacle or close to it has faily low numbers for a 6.1L engine in a car of its class. Its just a super light freakin car, even the sound system components are lightened beyond belief.
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Old 01-27-2004, 02:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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very interesting, beats my project
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Old 01-27-2004, 02:39 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Well castex, you know what they say, opinions are like "aXXXX" err belly buttons, everyones got one. I am currently looking for a NA 3.0 when the v8 fell into my lap. Figure I can play with this for awhile, then acquire and rebuild the 3.0 at my leisure...
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Old 01-27-2004, 03:07 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Your going to get so much more horsepowere and torque for so much less money than you ever would with the 3L. My only question is the weight discrepancy. What is the difference and which one is lighter. Fortunately its not uncommon for a V8 swap to be lighter. Interestingly, swaping a Small Block Chevy for a Jag V12 results in almost 300lbs. weight savings. and believe it or not swaping a Buick 215 (Land Rover 3.5/4.0) V8 for a BMC 4cyc. results in 200lbs. less.
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Old 01-27-2004, 05:57 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Yes, V8s are nice.

I'd love to go back to the days when all cars have one. Can you imagine a V8 powered Mini Cooper?






Personally though, I enjoy the one inside my Merc S class. ::Laughs at you::
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Old 01-27-2004, 09:20 PM   #20 (permalink)
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I love my V8...4.0L Northstar
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Old 01-28-2004, 02:27 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Yes, V8s are nice.

I'd love to go back to the days when all cars have one. Can you imagine a V8 powered Mini Cooper?






Personally though, I enjoy the one inside my Merc S class. ::Laughs at you::
Oh my god you are putting ideas in my head!
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Old 01-28-2004, 06:08 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Anyone see the pic of the 5liter v8 focus svt..what a sleeper that would be
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Old 01-28-2004, 06:57 PM   #23 (permalink)
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yea, here is the linky:

V8 Focus:
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=01412980


My friend seriously considered doing that, but ended up dropping a Mercury Cougar V6 into his Foci.
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Old 01-29-2004, 12:57 PM   #24 (permalink)
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So they made a Focus V8 powered but front wheel drive?


Dumb move!
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Old 01-30-2004, 11:25 AM   #25 (permalink)
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No actually the conversion changes it from front to rear wheel drive. Here's a link to more detail

http://www.kugelkomponents.com/focus/focus.html
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Old 01-31-2004, 02:53 PM   #26 (permalink)
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No actually the conversion changes it from front to rear wheel drive. Here's a link to more detail

http://www.kugelkomponents.com/focus/focus.html
Well good move by them...making a V8 powered car with front wheel drive isn't smart!
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Old 02-01-2004, 05:54 PM   #27 (permalink)
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I like my 7.5l V8. Mileage is less than perfect, but it makes life so much easier when you have a tendency to hook onto heavy objects (occasionally even ones with wheels under them) with the intent to move them.

Of course, there are some nice inline 6 engines out there...For instance A 14 liter Cummins running 600 horsepower and a little over 2,000 foot pounds of torque. Unfortunately, I can't fit that into an F-350.
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Old 02-02-2004, 09:38 AM   #28 (permalink)
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I like my 7.5l V8. Mileage is less than perfect, but it makes life so much easier when you have a tendency to hook onto heavy objects (occasionally even ones with wheels under them) with the intent to move them.

Of course, there are some nice inline 6 engines out there...For instance A 14 liter Cummins running 600 horsepower and a little over 2,000 foot pounds of torque. Unfortunately, I can't fit that into an F-350.
So thats the Ford big block?
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Old 02-04-2004, 09:58 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yep. The good old 460.
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Old 02-05-2004, 08:55 AM   #30 (permalink)
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Yep. The good old 460.
Hummm I thought Fords numbers where always lower then chevy...liek the Chevy 305 is the same size as the 302 for ford...and Dodge was alway higher like the 360 is the same size as the 350....but its all just numbers!
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Old 02-17-2004, 03:39 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Ford has/had:
Small Block 289,302,351
Big Block 351,390,427,428,429,460

Chevy has/had=
Small Block 283,302,305,327,350,400
Big Block 396,402,427,454, then 502, and now 575

Chrysler/Mopar has/had=
Small Block 318,340,360
Big Block 383,426,440

There have been many many others, but these have been the most popular.
Also all of these can be bored/stroked to practically any Cubic Inch number and around 60 Cubic Inches = 1 liter.
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Old 02-18-2004, 03:26 AM   #32 (permalink)
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what is better a V12 or a W16?
The only short-coming of W-engines is that they require very thin connecting rods, as the crankshaft is much shorter than V-engines. This prevents them from becoming racing engines. Tight cylinder heads may also limit its breathing and ventilation.

So, V12 it is...
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Old 02-18-2004, 08:44 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Ford has/had:
Small Block 289,302,351
Big Block 351,390,427,428,429,460

Chevy has/had=
Small Block 283,302,305,327,350,400
Big Block 396,402,427,454, then 502, and now 575

Chrysler/Mopar has/had=
Small Block 318,340,360
Big Block 383,426,440

There have been many many others, but these have been the most popular.
Also all of these can be bored/stroked to practically any Cubic Inch number and around 60 Cubic Inches = 1 liter.
One mistake there on the chevy small block, it was the 301 not the 302
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Old 03-16-2004, 02:18 PM   #34 (permalink)
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I can't really recall any good V12s... Sure it sounds awsome and gives a fella mad bragging rights but looking at it by hp/cu.i or hp/lbs. they all suck it up. The V12 in the McLaren F1, which is probably the pinnacle or close to it has faily low numbers for a 6.1L engine in a car of its class. Its just a super light freakin car, even the sound system components are lightened beyond belief.
I just had to respond to this, because it was that absurd.......Have you ever heard of a Murcielago? Maybe a 575 Maranello or an Enzo? These are fine products manufactured by the folks in Europe that work for Lamborghini and Ferrari, and I think you got a lotta balls saying that those motors aren't that great.
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Old 03-16-2004, 02:48 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I like the 2.3 turbo 4-banger in my Thunderbird just because it's so different, and surprises the hell out of people who ride in it when I tell em the engine it has. It will certainly move.

However I like the DOHC 4.6 V8 in my Mark VIII a lot more. When it comes to engines in everyday cars, you just can't beat a V8 for smoothness, low end torque, and the sound.
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Old 03-17-2004, 11:50 AM   #36 (permalink)
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i wish my ford explorer had a v8... or atleast a decent v6.... i cant even hold 75mph going up a hill on the highway... its pretty lame...
Or the classic 300/6 Probably the best small block Ford truck engine they ever made.
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Old 03-17-2004, 12:05 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Ford has/had:
Small Block 289,302,351
Big Block 351,390,427,428,429,460

Chevy has/had=
Small Block 283,302,305,327,350,400
Big Block 396,402,427,454, then 502, and now 575

Chrysler/Mopar has/had=
Small Block 318,340,360
Big Block 383,426,440
Common Chrysler big blocks also include the 361 (medium duty trucks mostly) and the 400 produced in 72-78 and found in anything bigger than a Dart. And the 318-360 started out at 273.

Ford also made a 400. Supposedly a real gas pig.
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Old 03-17-2004, 12:38 PM   #38 (permalink)
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I like the 2.3 turbo 4-banger in my Thunderbird just because it's so different, and surprises the hell out of people who ride in it when I tell em the engine it has. It will certainly move.

However I like the DOHC 4.6 V8 in my Mark VIII a lot more. When it comes to engines in everyday cars, you just can't beat a V8 for smoothness, low end torque, and the sound.
Heh, cute little turbos that T-Bird has. We had a pair for experimentation purposes on the SAE car.
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Old 03-17-2004, 02:43 PM   #39 (permalink)
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Yeah, it's a tiny little thing, especially the IHI on the 87-88 models. They spool up nice and quick.

What is this SAE car you speak of?
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Old 03-17-2004, 05:16 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Gotta love the V8


What kind of car is that engine from?
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