Wish I had a V8 - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

zephog · 01-22-2004, 10:01 AM

Finally found a way to link to images, a few month ago I mentioned my Porsche V8 conversion, well over the winter break I decided to make some progress.

http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...hreadid=144986

Scorps · 01-22-2004, 10:59 AM

Tiger69z · 01-24-2004, 10:44 PM

I want a v8 in my stang too

Dixie_Wrekked · 01-24-2004, 11:23 PM

I gotta V8 in my truck, it sure does help when I'm hauling my boat

JStrider · 01-24-2004, 11:33 PM

i wish my ford explorer had a v8... or atleast a decent v6.... i cant even hold 75mph going up a hill on the highway... its pretty lame...

Dixie_Wrekked · 01-25-2004, 12:12 AM

do you have the 4.2? or is it an older model?

JStrider · 01-25-2004, 12:36 PM

93.... im pretty sure its a 4.0.... somewhere i read it had like 150 or so horsepower... i dont really know... i just know it doesnt seem to be enough...

Dixie_Wrekked · 01-25-2004, 01:01 PM

you are right it is the 4.0, the 4.2 V6 is the new V6, i have the 4.6 V8 in my F150

But I may be just preaching to the choir

Locke · 01-26-2004, 06:42 PM

4.6 v8 in my cougar. that thing can haul. I can never go any lower ever again. I refuse to.

ducati999 · 01-26-2004, 10:53 PM

dang nice conversion.......cant beat a v8!

castex · 01-27-2004, 04:59 AM

Oh yes you can!

The finest engines in my opinion come with cylinders in multiples of 6: BMW's in-line 6, Porsche's boxer flat 6...
The very best engines have traditionally always had 12 cylinders; they make v8's sound lumpy and unrefined, tend to have a better top end (rev higher), and are just much better all round.
There, I said it.

Zephog you must be commended on doing something that appears to be wholly illogical

Congratulations!

Scorps · 01-27-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by castex
Oh yes you can!

The finest engines in my opinion come with cylinders in multiples of 6: BMW's in-line 6, Porsche's boxer flat 6...
The very best engines have traditionally always had 12 cylinders; they make v8's sound lumpy and unrefined, tend to have a better top end (rev higher), and are just much better all round.
There, I said it.

Zephog you must be commended on doing something that appears to be wholly illogical Congratulations!

Ya V12's will always be better, but think of the gas those things suck up!

Elitegibson · 01-27-2004, 11:27 AM

So, if I just get a few 4 cylinders together, I'll make myself a "Y"12.

Scorps · 01-27-2004, 11:50 AM

what is better a V12 or a W16?

coventryblack · 01-27-2004, 02:13 PM

I can't really recall any good V12s... Sure it sounds awsome and gives a fella mad bragging rights but looking at it by hp/cu.i or hp/lbs. they all suck it up. The V12 in the McLaren F1, which is probably the pinnacle or close to it has faily low numbers for a 6.1L engine in a car of its class. Its just a super light freakin car, even the sound system components are lightened beyond belief.

thadon · 01-27-2004, 02:38 PM

very interesting, beats my project

zephog · 01-27-2004, 02:39 PM

Well castex, you know what they say, opinions are like "aXXXX" err belly buttons, everyones got one. I am currently looking for a NA 3.0 when the v8 fell into my lap. Figure I can play with this for awhile, then acquire and rebuild the 3.0 at my leisure...

coventryblack · 01-27-2004, 03:07 PM

Your going to get so much more horsepowere and torque for so much less money than you ever would with the 3L. My only question is the weight discrepancy. What is the difference and which one is lighter. Fortunately its not uncommon for a V8 swap to be lighter. Interestingly, swaping a Small Block Chevy for a Jag V12 results in almost 300lbs. weight savings. and believe it or not swaping a Buick 215 (Land Rover 3.5/4.0) V8 for a BMC 4cyc. results in 200lbs. less.

TM875 · 01-27-2004, 05:57 PM

Yes, V8s are nice.

I'd love to go back to the days when all cars have one. Can you imagine a V8 powered Mini Cooper?

Personally though, I enjoy the one inside my Merc S class. ::Laughs at you::

BonneFan · 01-27-2004, 09:20 PM

I love my V8...4.0L Northstar

Scorps · 01-28-2004, 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TM875
Yes, V8s are nice.

I'd love to go back to the days when all cars have one. Can you imagine a V8 powered Mini Cooper?

Personally though, I enjoy the one inside my Merc S class. ::Laughs at you::

Oh my god you are putting ideas in my head!

zephog · 01-28-2004, 06:08 PM

Anyone see the pic of the 5liter v8 focus svt..what a sleeper that would be

TM875 · 01-28-2004, 06:57 PM

yea, here is the linky:

V8 Focus:
http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=01412980

My friend seriously considered doing that, but ended up dropping a Mercury Cougar V6 into his Foci.

Scorps · 01-29-2004, 12:57 PM

So they made a Focus V8 powered but front wheel drive?

Dumb move!

zephog · 01-30-2004, 11:25 AM

No actually the conversion changes it from front to rear wheel drive. Here's a link to more detail

http://www.kugelkomponents.com/focus/focus.html

Scorps · 01-31-2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by zephog
No actually the conversion changes it from front to rear wheel drive. Here's a link to more detail

http://www.kugelkomponents.com/focus/focus.html

Well good move by them...making a V8 powered car with front wheel drive isn't smart!

BoomTruck · 02-01-2004, 05:54 PM

I like my 7.5l V8. Mileage is less than perfect, but it makes life so much easier when you have a tendency to hook onto heavy objects (occasionally even ones with wheels under them) with the intent to move them.

Of course, there are some nice inline 6 engines out there...For instance A 14 liter Cummins running 600 horsepower and a little over 2,000 foot pounds of torque. Unfortunately, I can't fit that into an F-350.

Scorps · 02-02-2004, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BoomTruck
I like my 7.5l V8. Mileage is less than perfect, but it makes life so much easier when you have a tendency to hook onto heavy objects (occasionally even ones with wheels under them) with the intent to move them.

Of course, there are some nice inline 6 engines out there...For instance A 14 liter Cummins running 600 horsepower and a little over 2,000 foot pounds of torque. Unfortunately, I can't fit that into an F-350.

So thats the Ford big block?

BoomTruck · 02-04-2004, 09:58 PM

Yep. The good old 460.

Scorps · 02-05-2004, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by BoomTruck
Yep. The good old 460.

Hummm I thought Fords numbers where always lower then chevy...liek the Chevy 305 is the same size as the 302 for ford...and Dodge was alway higher like the 360 is the same size as the 350....but its all just numbers!

bjam22 · 02-17-2004, 03:39 PM

Ford has/had:
Small Block 289,302,351
Big Block 351,390,427,428,429,460

Chevy has/had=
Small Block 283,302,305,327,350,400
Big Block 396,402,427,454, then 502, and now 575

Chrysler/Mopar has/had=
Small Block 318,340,360
Big Block 383,426,440

There have been many many others, but these have been the most popular.
Also all of these can be bored/stroked to practically any Cubic Inch number and around 60 Cubic Inches = 1 liter.

peacy · 02-18-2004, 03:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Pain Train
what is better a V12 or a W16?

The only short-coming of W-engines is that they require very thin connecting rods, as the crankshaft is much shorter than V-engines. This prevents them from becoming racing engines. Tight cylinder heads may also limit its breathing and ventilation.

So, V12 it is...

Scorps · 02-18-2004, 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by bjam22
Ford has/had:
Small Block 289,302,351
Big Block 351,390,427,428,429,460

Chevy has/had=
Small Block 283,302,305,327,350,400
Big Block 396,402,427,454, then 502, and now 575

Chrysler/Mopar has/had=
Small Block 318,340,360
Big Block 383,426,440

There have been many many others, but these have been the most popular.
Also all of these can be bored/stroked to practically any Cubic Inch number and around 60 Cubic Inches = 1 liter.

One mistake there on the chevy small block, it was the 301 not the 302

theblackmax455 · 03-16-2004, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by coventryblack
I can't really recall any good V12s... Sure it sounds awsome and gives a fella mad bragging rights but looking at it by hp/cu.i or hp/lbs. they all suck it up. The V12 in the McLaren F1, which is probably the pinnacle or close to it has faily low numbers for a 6.1L engine in a car of its class. Its just a super light freakin car, even the sound system components are lightened beyond belief.

I just had to respond to this, because it was that absurd.......Have you ever heard of a Murcielago? Maybe a 575 Maranello or an Enzo? These are fine products manufactured by the folks in Europe that work for Lamborghini and Ferrari, and I think you got a lotta balls saying that those motors aren't that great.

irseg · 03-16-2004, 02:48 PM

I like the 2.3 turbo 4-banger in my Thunderbird just because it's so different, and surprises the hell out of people who ride in it when I tell em the engine it has.

It will certainly move.

However I like the DOHC 4.6 V8 in my Mark VIII a lot more. When it comes to engines in everyday cars, you just can't beat a V8 for smoothness, low end torque, and the sound.

etla · 03-17-2004, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JStrider
i wish my ford explorer had a v8... or atleast a decent v6.... i cant even hold 75mph going up a hill on the highway... its pretty lame...

Or the classic 300/6 Probably the best small block Ford truck engine they ever made.

etla · 03-17-2004, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bjam22
Ford has/had:
Small Block 289,302,351
Big Block 351,390,427,428,429,460

Chevy has/had=
Small Block 283,302,305,327,350,400
Big Block 396,402,427,454, then 502, and now 575

Chrysler/Mopar has/had=
Small Block 318,340,360
Big Block 383,426,440

Common Chrysler big blocks also include the 361 (medium duty trucks mostly) and the 400 produced in 72-78 and found in anything bigger than a Dart. And the 318-360 started out at 273.

Ford also made a 400. Supposedly a real gas pig.

WarWagon · 03-17-2004, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by irseg
I like the 2.3 turbo 4-banger in my Thunderbird just because it's so different, and surprises the hell out of people who ride in it when I tell em the engine it has. It will certainly move.

However I like the DOHC 4.6 V8 in my Mark VIII a lot more. When it comes to engines in everyday cars, you just can't beat a V8 for smoothness, low end torque, and the sound.

Heh, cute little turbos that T-Bird has. We had a pair for experimentation purposes on the SAE car.

irseg · 03-17-2004, 02:43 PM

Yeah, it's a tiny little thing, especially the IHI on the 87-88 models. They spool up nice and quick.

What is this SAE car you speak of?

FastShark85 · 03-17-2004, 05:16 PM

Gotta love the V8

What kind of car is that engine from?

01-22-2004, 10:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
zephog Upright Location: Silicon Valley	Wish I had a V8 Finally found a way to link to images, a few month ago I mentioned my Porsche V8 conversion, well over the winter break I decided to make some progress. http://forums.pelicanparts.com/showt...hreadid=144986 __________________ Displace Islander..dam its cold in the mainland

01-22-2004, 10:59 AM	#2 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	Nice __________________ A.K.A. PainTrain

01-24-2004, 11:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	i wish my ford explorer had a v8... or atleast a decent v6.... i cant even hold 75mph going up a hill on the highway... its pretty lame... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

01-25-2004, 12:36 PM	#7 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	93.... im pretty sure its a 4.0.... somewhere i read it had like 150 or so horsepower... i dont really know... i just know it doesnt seem to be enough... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto

01-26-2004, 06:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
Locke Insane Location: The reddest state ever. :(	4.6 v8 in my cougar. that thing can haul. I can never go any lower ever again. I refuse to. __________________ CUBS WIN, CUBS WIN!!!! - Pat Hughes "Don't surround yourself with yourself." Yes

01-24-2004, 10:44 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tiger69z Banned Location: Sunny S.FLA	I want a v8 in my stang too

01-24-2004, 11:23 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dixie_Wrekked Banned Location: Bryan, Tx	I gotta V8 in my truck, it sure does help when I'm hauling my boat

01-25-2004, 12:12 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dixie_Wrekked Banned Location: Bryan, Tx	do you have the 4.2? or is it an older model?

01-25-2004, 01:01 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dixie_Wrekked Banned Location: Bryan, Tx	you are right it is the 4.0, the 4.2 V6 is the new V6, i have the 4.6 V8 in my F150 But I may be just preaching to the choir

01-26-2004, 10:53 PM	#10 (permalink)
ducati999 Crazy Location: USA	dang nice conversion.......cant beat a v8! __________________ Twist of the wrist

01-27-2004, 04:59 AM	#11 (permalink)
castex Psycho Location: france	Oh yes you can! The finest engines in my opinion come with cylinders in multiples of 6: BMW's in-line 6, Porsche's boxer flat 6... The very best engines have traditionally always had 12 cylinders; they make v8's sound lumpy and unrefined, tend to have a better top end (rev higher), and are just much better all round. There, I said it. Zephog you must be commended on doing something that appears to be wholly illogical Congratulations!

01-27-2004, 11:27 AM	#13 (permalink)
Elitegibson More Freedom, Less Bullshit Location: Tulsa, OK	So, if I just get a few 4 cylinders together, I'll make myself a "Y"12. __________________ -Erik Stupid people shouldn't breed.

01-27-2004, 11:50 AM	#14 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	what is better a V12 or a W16? __________________ A.K.A. PainTrain

01-27-2004, 02:13 PM	#15 (permalink)
coventryblack Upright Location: Northwest Woods	I can't really recall any good V12s... Sure it sounds awsome and gives a fella mad bragging rights but looking at it by hp/cu.i or hp/lbs. they all suck it up. The V12 in the McLaren F1, which is probably the pinnacle or close to it has faily low numbers for a 6.1L engine in a car of its class. Its just a super light freakin car, even the sound system components are lightened beyond belief. __________________ Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft. -Teddy Roosevelt Last edited by coventryblack; 01-27-2004 at 02:20 PM..

01-27-2004, 02:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
thadon Cruisin thru life Location: Alpharetta, GA	very interesting, beats my project

01-27-2004, 09:20 PM	#20 (permalink)
BonneFan Crazy Location: Ontario Canada	I love my V8...4.0L Northstar __________________ "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters." - Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)

01-27-2004, 02:39 PM	#17 (permalink)
zephog Upright Location: Silicon Valley	Well castex, you know what they say, opinions are like "aXXXX" err belly buttons, everyones got one. I am currently looking for a NA 3.0 when the v8 fell into my lap. Figure I can play with this for awhile, then acquire and rebuild the 3.0 at my leisure... __________________ Displace Islander..dam its cold in the mainland

01-27-2004, 03:07 PM	#18 (permalink)
coventryblack Upright Location: Northwest Woods	Your going to get so much more horsepowere and torque for so much less money than you ever would with the 3L. My only question is the weight discrepancy. What is the difference and which one is lighter. Fortunately its not uncommon for a V8 swap to be lighter. Interestingly, swaping a Small Block Chevy for a Jag V12 results in almost 300lbs. weight savings. and believe it or not swaping a Buick 215 (Land Rover 3.5/4.0) V8 for a BMC 4cyc. results in 200lbs. less. __________________ Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft. -Teddy Roosevelt

01-27-2004, 05:57 PM	#19 (permalink)
TM875 Addict Location: Amish-land, PA	Yes, V8s are nice. I'd love to go back to the days when all cars have one. Can you imagine a V8 powered Mini Cooper? Personally though, I enjoy the one inside my Merc S class. ::Laughs at you:: __________________ "I've made only one mistake in my life. But I made it over and over and over. That was saying 'yes' when I meant 'no'. Forgive me."

01-28-2004, 06:08 PM	#22 (permalink)
zephog Upright Location: Silicon Valley	Anyone see the pic of the 5liter v8 focus svt..what a sleeper that would be __________________ Displace Islander..dam its cold in the mainland

01-28-2004, 06:57 PM	#23 (permalink)
TM875 Addict Location: Amish-land, PA	yea, here is the linky: V8 Focus: http://www.autoweek.com/cat_content...._code=01412980 My friend seriously considered doing that, but ended up dropping a Mercury Cougar V6 into his Foci. __________________ "I've made only one mistake in my life. But I made it over and over and over. That was saying 'yes' when I meant 'no'. Forgive me."

01-29-2004, 12:57 PM	#24 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	So they made a Focus V8 powered but front wheel drive? Dumb move! __________________ A.K.A. PainTrain

01-30-2004, 11:25 AM	#25 (permalink)
zephog Upright Location: Silicon Valley	No actually the conversion changes it from front to rear wheel drive. Here's a link to more detail http://www.kugelkomponents.com/focus/focus.html __________________ Displace Islander..dam its cold in the mainland Last edited by zephog; 01-30-2004 at 11:27 AM..

02-01-2004, 05:54 PM	#27 (permalink)
BoomTruck Insane Location: On a gravel road rough enought to knock fillings out of teeth.	I like my 7.5l V8. Mileage is less than perfect, but it makes life so much easier when you have a tendency to hook onto heavy objects (occasionally even ones with wheels under them) with the intent to move them. Of course, there are some nice inline 6 engines out there...For instance A 14 liter Cummins running 600 horsepower and a little over 2,000 foot pounds of torque. Unfortunately, I can't fit that into an F-350. __________________ Judge me all you want, but keep the verdict to yourself.

02-04-2004, 09:58 PM	#29 (permalink)
BoomTruck Insane Location: On a gravel road rough enought to knock fillings out of teeth.	Yep. The good old 460. __________________ Judge me all you want, but keep the verdict to yourself.

02-17-2004, 03:39 PM	#31 (permalink)
bjam22 Upright Location: New Orleans, LA	Ford has/had: Small Block 289,302,351 Big Block 351,390,427,428,429,460 Chevy has/had= Small Block 283,302,305,327,350,400 Big Block 396,402,427,454, then 502, and now 575 Chrysler/Mopar has/had= Small Block 318,340,360 Big Block 383,426,440 There have been many many others, but these have been the most popular. Also all of these can be bored/stroked to practically any Cubic Inch number and around 60 Cubic Inches = 1 liter.

03-16-2004, 02:48 PM	#35 (permalink)
irseg Junkie Location: Florida	I like the 2.3 turbo 4-banger in my Thunderbird just because it's so different, and surprises the hell out of people who ride in it when I tell em the engine it has. It will certainly move. However I like the DOHC 4.6 V8 in my Mark VIII a lot more. When it comes to engines in everyday cars, you just can't beat a V8 for smoothness, low end torque, and the sound.

03-17-2004, 02:43 PM	#39 (permalink)
irseg Junkie Location: Florida	Yeah, it's a tiny little thing, especially the IHI on the 87-88 models. They spool up nice and quick. What is this SAE car you speak of?

03-17-2004, 05:16 PM	#40 (permalink)
FastShark85 Psycho Location: In the garage, under the car.	Gotta love the V8 What kind of car is that engine from?