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nimi · 01-07-2004, 01:12 AM

Hello fellow TFP motor-enthusiasts! 
I'm thinking of buying a Renault 19 16V -93 model. It has a 1.8 liter 16V engine with 140hp, 0-100(km/h) 7.9s etc. I need some reassurance or opinions against it to make sure if it's a good deal or not(or to make my decision easier). So, speak freely your mind if you know something I need to know about this specific type of Renault. 
Thank you very much

castex · 01-07-2004, 08:14 AM

Hello Nimi,

It's fast and flimsy. Not particularly well-built, cheap interior, but it has a good engine. Contemporary reports were very complementary about the handling and the car's great value as anyone who wanted a hot Renault at the time went for the - smaller - 5 GT Turbo.
I wouldn't want to crash one.

Good luck!

nimi · 01-08-2004, 03:31 AM

Thanks Castex, 
tonight I'm going to testdrive it finally... let's see if it's a bomb or not. I'm hoping not

coventryblack · 01-08-2004, 08:54 PM

Speaking as a person who had the dispelasure to drive a Peugeot 505 wagon for a while, RUN! Sure all the french bashing is silly but when it comes to cars stay the F*ck away from Peugeots, Citroens, and especialy Renaults!

castex · 01-09-2004, 05:12 AM

With respect, Mr. Coventryblack, that's arrant bosh.
Anyway, what happened nimi?

nimi · 01-10-2004, 07:06 AM

Well... there's as many opinions as there's people, so I guess Mr. coventryblack is entitled to speak his

But for fairness sake I must say that comparing a Renault 19 to Peugeot 505 is a bit far fetched... 'cause 505 is what it is. IMHO.
And finally back to the subject... I tested the car on thursday, it seemed pretty fine I think. One tiny spot of rust, handling was very well, and the overall feel was pretty positive. I'm going to take it to a proper inspection on monday and then I'll either buy it or flush it. Let's see.

castex · 01-11-2004, 04:39 AM

Yes, that probably sounded quite rude - not at all my intention.
Telling people to stay away from any car that's French, however; while it's an opinion certainly, is not the sort of advice that should go unchallenged.

coventryblack · 01-11-2004, 01:22 PM

Yoiu can challenge it castex, but from a engineering standpoint, not stereotypical, (post war) French cars are poorly desinged.

Perhaps the worst component is the addition of engine accesories. In one Car and Driver review, the writer noted that when looking in french engine compartment it always appears that AC compressor, altenator, powersteering, and other accesories were afterthoughts crammed in on a deadline.

And just as french automotive technology has stagnated, so has the continuity between exterior interior design. It seems that the cars are designed from the outside ignoring the inside or vice versa.

Unfortunately, since The Delage or the Voisin, the Francos have gone funky...

nimi · 01-19-2004, 01:47 PM

Bought it, and I'm lovin it

Hazza · 11-27-2008, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nimi

Hello fellow TFP motor-enthusiasts! 
I'm thinking of buying a Renault 19 16V -93 model. It has a 1.8 liter 16V engine with 140hp, 0-100(km/h) 7.9s etc. I need some reassurance or opinions against it to make sure if it's a good deal or not(or to make my decision easier). So, speak freely your mind if you know something I need to know about this specific type of Renault. 
Thank you very much

Hi Nimi I have just bought a renault 19 16v 1995 phase 2. It used to belong to my brother and i bought it back from the people he sold it to 3 years ago. Its true that they arnt the most well built cars, but that doesnt mean they arnt good. They have great engines with superb handling and a nice gearbox. I personally would find out if this rust you speak of is structual, if so walk away. If you want more comfort when driving look for the executive model like mine which has a good quality leather interior which is incredibly comfortable. If the one you are looking at looks good go for it and have fun, just check the engine weekly for leaks from hoses etc and you should be alright as parts like that on these renaults tend to fail sometimes. But in my opinion its a lovely car and for a few hundred quid a lot of fun.

BadNick · 11-27-2008, 08:40 PM

nimi @ 01-19-2004, 04:47 PM >>> Hazza @ 11-27-2008, 07:38 AM

Jetée · 11-28-2008, 05:28 PM

Wait a minute... I have the perfect reply for this...

-----Added 28/11/2008 at 08 : 30 : 29-----

biznatch · 11-29-2008, 08:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by coventryblack

Yoiu can challenge it castex, but from a engineering standpoint, not stereotypical, (post war) French cars are poorly desinged.

Perhaps the worst component is the addition of engine accesories. In one Car and Driver review, the writer noted that when looking in french engine compartment it always appears that AC compressor, altenator, powersteering, and other accesories were afterthoughts crammed in on a deadline.

And just as french automotive technology has stagnated, so has the continuity between exterior interior design. It seems that the cars are designed from the outside ignoring the inside or vice versa.

Unfortunately, since The Delage or the Voisin, the Francos have gone funky...

I have to disagree, in the past couple decades, the french auto industry has produced more than share of quality automobiles. Look at the 206, the thing is gorgeous, handles like a dream, packs punch. The 607, the 406, all of those cars rock.
The Renault Vel Satis is built like tank, 3.0 V6, and Citroen have their own cool cars.

I think you should back your thoughts up with examples of cars. And remember that all car manufacturers have produced crap cars, however it doesn't mean they only produce crap.

harry321 · 06-19-2009, 08:13 AM

How fast can a Renault 19 16v phase 2 go from 0-60mph? Ive seen 7.4 7.7 7.9 8.2 i think they are quicker does anyone have a pretty accurate time? If someone could let me know i would be most greatful. I get the impression the engines seem to give out different times or something.

01-07-2004, 01:12 AM	#1 (permalink)
nimi Using the force of gravity Location: Helsinki, Finland	Opinions about Renault 19 16V Hello fellow TFP motor-enthusiasts!<br> I'm thinking of buying a Renault 19 16V -93 model. It has a 1.8 liter 16V engine with 140hp, 0-100(km/h) 7.9s etc. I need some reassurance or opinions against it to make sure if it's a good deal or not(or to make my decision easier). So, speak freely your mind if you know something I need to know about this specific type of Renault.<br><br> Thank you very much __________________ /* It's not an optical illusion, it only looks like that */

01-08-2004, 03:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
nimi Using the force of gravity Location: Helsinki, Finland	Thanks Castex,<br> tonight I'm going to testdrive it finally... let's see if it's a bomb or not. I'm hoping not __________________ /* It's not an optical illusion, it only looks like that */

01-08-2004, 08:54 PM	#4 (permalink)
coventryblack Upright Location: Northwest Woods	Speaking as a person who had the dispelasure to drive a Peugeot 505 wagon for a while, RUN! Sure all the french bashing is silly but when it comes to cars stay the F*ck away from Peugeots, Citroens, and especialy Renaults! __________________ Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft. -Teddy Roosevelt

01-10-2004, 07:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
nimi Using the force of gravity Location: Helsinki, Finland	Well... there's as many opinions as there's people, so I guess Mr. coventryblack is entitled to speak his But for fairness sake I must say that comparing a Renault 19 to Peugeot 505 is a bit far fetched... 'cause 505 is what it is. IMHO. And finally back to the subject... I tested the car on thursday, it seemed pretty fine I think. One tiny spot of rust, handling was very well, and the overall feel was pretty positive. I'm going to take it to a proper inspection on monday and then I'll either buy it or flush it. Let's see. __________________ /* It's not an optical illusion, it only looks like that */

01-11-2004, 01:22 PM	#8 (permalink)
coventryblack Upright Location: Northwest Woods	Yoiu can challenge it castex, but from a engineering standpoint, not stereotypical, (post war) French cars are poorly desinged. Perhaps the worst component is the addition of engine accesories. In one Car and Driver review, the writer noted that when looking in french engine compartment it always appears that AC compressor, altenator, powersteering, and other accesories were afterthoughts crammed in on a deadline. And just as french automotive technology has stagnated, so has the continuity between exterior interior design. It seems that the cars are designed from the outside ignoring the inside or vice versa. Unfortunately, since The Delage or the Voisin, the Francos have gone funky... __________________ Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft. -Teddy Roosevelt

01-07-2004, 08:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
castex Psycho Location: france	Hello Nimi, It's fast and flimsy. Not particularly well-built, cheap interior, but it has a good engine. Contemporary reports were very complementary about the handling and the car's great value as anyone who wanted a hot Renault at the time went for the - smaller - 5 GT Turbo. I wouldn't want to crash one. Good luck!

01-09-2004, 05:12 AM	#5 (permalink)
castex Psycho Location: france	With respect, Mr. Coventryblack, that's arrant bosh. Anyway, what happened nimi?

01-11-2004, 04:39 AM	#7 (permalink)
castex Psycho Location: france	Yes, that probably sounded quite rude - not at all my intention. Telling people to stay away from any car that's French, however; while it's an opinion certainly, is not the sort of advice that should go unchallenged.

01-19-2004, 01:47 PM	#9 (permalink)
nimi Using the force of gravity Location: Helsinki, Finland	Bought it, and I'm lovin it __________________ /* It's not an optical illusion, it only looks like that */

11-27-2008, 08:40 PM	#11 (permalink)
BadNick Riding the Ocean Spray Location: S.E. PA in U Sofa	nimi @ 01-19-2004, 04:47 PM >>> Hazza @ 11-27-2008, 07:38 AM

11-28-2008, 05:28 PM	#12 (permalink)
Jetée The Reforms Location: Rarely, if ever, here or there, but always in transition	Wait a minute... I have the perfect reply for this... -----Added 28/11/2008 at 08 : 30 : 29----- __________________ As human beings, our greatness lies not so much in being able to remake the world (that is the myth of the Atomic Age) as in being able to remake ourselves. —Mohandas K. Gandhi Last edited by Jetée; 11-28-2008 at 05:30 PM.. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

06-19-2009, 08:13 AM	#14 (permalink)
harry321 Upright	How fast can a Renault 19 16v phase 2 go from 0-60mph? Ive seen 7.4 7.7 7.9 8.2 i think they are quicker does anyone have a pretty accurate time? If someone could let me know i would be most greatful. I get the impression the engines seem to give out different times or something.