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DEI37 · 11-24-2003, 07:23 PM

Looks like in early 2004, the Bonnie gets a 275hp Northstar V8! This should be fun. I'm not seeing specs or pricing yet, but I would anticipate mid $30k's to start, with performance better than any of the SSEi's to date.

Sion · 11-25-2003, 06:51 AM

will it be supercharged?

Cynthetiq · 11-25-2003, 07:26 AM

Meanwhile Over At Pontiac – 2004 Bonneville GXP

Status - Model Year 2004, Available February 2004

by Casey Williams - www.car-data.com

If you want to imagine what a large front-drive American super sled would look like with a powerful V8 engine, take a look at the 2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP. Originally shown as a concept at the 2002 Chicago Auto Show, the sedan is Pontiac’s Impala SS.

According to Lynn Myers, Pontiac-GMC general manager, “Given the Bonneville’s history as one of the original Pontiac performance cars, it’s fitting that this new model kicks off a new level of commitment to the ideal that Pontiac has always strived for – namely to make driving as exciting as possible. The Bonneville GXP will set a high standard for the other GXP models to follow, with a sensuous approach to styling and superior power and handling characteristics.”

Borrowing Cadillac’s 4.6-litre 32-valve V8 engine, the Bonneville GXP harnesses 275 horsepower and 300 lb.-ft. of torque. Routed through a four-speed automatic transmission and front-wheel drive, that’s enough to propel the full-size sedan to 60 mph in just 6.8 seconds.

Stability will be provided by a wide-array of electronics. Understeer and oversteer are controlled to prevent the car from sliding while four-wheel anti-lock brakes and traction control enhance grip during slick conditions. Steering is enhanced by a speed-sensitive electromagnet to adjust effort. A heads-up display system keeps drivers looking straight ahead.

When designers stripped side cladding off of the Bonneville, they were surprised to find a very curvaceous and beautiful car underneath. They added eighteen-inch five-spoke alloy wheels with low-profile tires to make the car look the part of a powerhouse. Subtle ground affects and a subdued rear spoiler announce its intentions without embarrassment.

I can’t help but think the Bonneville GXP is the big powerful sedan the Impala SS aspires to be. With a base price of $35,995, it is sure to find many happy owners. Competitors include the Acura TL, Lincoln LS, Infiniti M45, and Chrysler 300M.

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While it's got some greatness under the hood, IMHO I find the styling to be too bland and lackluster bordering on cheap.

Scorps · 11-25-2003, 09:14 AM

I like the looks but why front wheel drive!

Peryn · 11-25-2003, 10:23 AM

I think thats the one thing holding back many of the car companies these days....Front wheel drive. Leave that to toyota and Honda and go make yourselves a real car.

laconic1 · 11-25-2003, 11:24 AM

I think the Bonneville looks sharp. The Northstar engine is great also. I don't see what the big deal is with front wheel drive, most people really don't drive their cars at the limits even if they think they do, and for regular driving front wheel drive is more practical and efficient.

Oh, and did anyone else notice the last pic is of a Grand Prix?

merkerguitars · 11-25-2003, 12:19 PM

Holy shit that is a badass combination. I remember driving a 2001 sedan deville with the northstar package...wow did that thing move.....

DEI37 · 11-25-2003, 03:34 PM

Thank you cynthetiq for digging up that info...I was hurried last night. I think the car looks sharp...wish I could come up with that kind of scratch!

Cynthetiq · 11-25-2003, 03:39 PM

NP....

I think I'll wait to see what it's like in person.. the Impala's are quite impressive in person... photos don't capture them well.

cliv · 11-25-2003, 03:43 PM

When my Grand Prix lease ends, my plan was to get another Grand Prix, now I'm not sure.

ducati999 · 11-25-2003, 10:52 PM

man pontiac is finally getting pumped up....after the horrible sad departure of the firebird ( damn you gm)

Sion · 11-26-2003, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by crazybill5280
Oh, and did anyone else notice the last pic is of a Grand Prix?

cb, its the same car in all the pictures. granted, from that angle it DOES look like a Grand Prix, but it is still a Bonne. do a right click on the image, select properties and look at the url.

merkerguitars · 11-28-2003, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sion
cb, its the same car in all the pictures. granted, from that angle it DOES look like a Grand Prix, but it is still a Bonne. do a right click on the image, select properties and look at the url.

Umm definately a grand prix in the last pic...bonnevilles have the taillight that goes across the whole back bumper........compare the second pic to the last pic

wrongfullyaccuzd · 11-30-2003, 05:56 PM

I think merker's right, the tail lights don't match up. In the second picture it COULD be a funny reflection, but I think the last pic was just a goof.
Good catch, I didn't see it till I read your post.

silent_jay · 11-30-2003, 06:36 PM

i have a hard time telling the difference between almost all the cars in the pontiac line-up grand prix, grand am, bonneville the engine sounds great but i'll take a Subaru WRX or WRX STI anyday.

eotlemac · 12-12-2003, 01:39 AM

What about the GTO??

BonneFan · 12-12-2003, 11:51 PM

I am a moderator the BonnevilleClub. www.bonnevilleclub.com (currently offline for server maintenance as of Dec 12/03)

Anyhow, I am somewhat of a Bonneville nut and we at BC.com are very excited about the new GXP lineup esp. the GXP Bonneville. Pontiac has taken the 4.6L Northstar from the Cadillac lineup (SLS in particular) and dropped it into a partially redesigned 2000+ body design.

Gone is the 3800 SC (L67 engine) putting out 240HP and 280 TQ at the crank. The SSEi will no longer exist after the 2003 model year. The SE and SLE trim levels maintain the 205 HP 3800 (L36 Normally aspirated engine)

Also the trademark foglamps of the SSEi (directly beside the front plates) is phased out.

Sadly for Bonneville fans in Canada....it will no longer exist after the 2005 model year.

oh..I had an 89 Bonneville SE (cream puff car..lol) and now drive a 96 Olds Aurora with a 4.0 Northstar.

Tech · 12-13-2003, 09:30 AM

the tailights are different, i did notice that... i don't like the first set of tailights, but the rest of the car looks fine... it's a pretty sweet car, if it wasn't FWD!!!!!! when will GM learn?

it's hard to be GM fan these days

silent_jay · 12-25-2003, 12:06 PM

it still looks like the grand am, grand prix they need to come up with at least some exterior changes between the models

11-24-2003, 07:23 PM	#1 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP Looks like in early 2004, the Bonnie gets a 275hp Northstar V8! This should be fun. I'm not seeing specs or pricing yet, but I would anticipate mid $30k's to start, with performance better than any of the SSEi's to date. __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

11-25-2003, 06:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	will it be supercharged? __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

11-25-2003, 07:26 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	Meanwhile Over At Pontiac – 2004 Bonneville GXP Status - Model Year 2004, Available February 2004 by Casey Williams - www.car-data.com If you want to imagine what a large front-drive American super sled would look like with a powerful V8 engine, take a look at the 2004 Pontiac Bonneville GXP. Originally shown as a concept at the 2002 Chicago Auto Show, the sedan is Pontiac’s Impala SS. According to Lynn Myers, Pontiac-GMC general manager, “Given the Bonneville’s history as one of the original Pontiac performance cars, it’s fitting that this new model kicks off a new level of commitment to the ideal that Pontiac has always strived for – namely to make driving as exciting as possible. The Bonneville GXP will set a high standard for the other GXP models to follow, with a sensuous approach to styling and superior power and handling characteristics.” Borrowing Cadillac’s 4.6-litre 32-valve V8 engine, the Bonneville GXP harnesses 275 horsepower and 300 lb.-ft. of torque. Routed through a four-speed automatic transmission and front-wheel drive, that’s enough to propel the full-size sedan to 60 mph in just 6.8 seconds. Stability will be provided by a wide-array of electronics. Understeer and oversteer are controlled to prevent the car from sliding while four-wheel anti-lock brakes and traction control enhance grip during slick conditions. Steering is enhanced by a speed-sensitive electromagnet to adjust effort. A heads-up display system keeps drivers looking straight ahead. When designers stripped side cladding off of the Bonneville, they were surprised to find a very curvaceous and beautiful car underneath. They added eighteen-inch five-spoke alloy wheels with low-profile tires to make the car look the part of a powerhouse. Subtle ground affects and a subdued rear spoiler announce its intentions without embarrassment. I can’t help but think the Bonneville GXP is the big powerful sedan the Impala SS aspires to be. With a base price of $35,995, it is sure to find many happy owners. Competitors include the Acura TL, Lincoln LS, Infiniti M45, and Chrysler 300M. link ---------------------- While it's got some greatness under the hood, IMHO I find the styling to be too bland and lackluster bordering on cheap. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

11-25-2003, 09:14 AM	#4 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	I like the looks but why front wheel drive! __________________ A.K.A. PainTrain

11-25-2003, 10:23 AM	#5 (permalink)
Peryn Junkie Location: San Diego, CA.	I think thats the one thing holding back many of the car companies these days....Front wheel drive. Leave that to toyota and Honda and go make yourselves a real car. __________________ Dont cry kid, It's not your fault you suck.

11-25-2003, 11:24 AM	#6 (permalink)
laconic1 Junkie	I think the Bonneville looks sharp. The Northstar engine is great also. I don't see what the big deal is with front wheel drive, most people really don't drive their cars at the limits even if they think they do, and for regular driving front wheel drive is more practical and efficient. Oh, and did anyone else notice the last pic is of a Grand Prix?

11-25-2003, 12:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	Holy shit that is a badass combination. I remember driving a 2001 sedan deville with the northstar package...wow did that thing move..... __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985

11-25-2003, 03:34 PM	#8 (permalink)
DEI37 Go faster! Location: Wisconsin	Thank you cynthetiq for digging up that info...I was hurried last night. I think the car looks sharp...wish I could come up with that kind of scratch! __________________ Generally speaking, if you were to get what you really deserve, you might be unpleasantly surprised.

11-25-2003, 03:39 PM	#9 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	NP.... I think I'll wait to see what it's like in person.. the Impala's are quite impressive in person... photos don't capture them well. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

11-25-2003, 03:43 PM	#10 (permalink)
cliv Insane Location: New Jersey, USA	When my Grand Prix lease ends, my plan was to get another Grand Prix, now I'm not sure.

11-25-2003, 10:52 PM	#11 (permalink)
ducati999 Crazy Location: USA	man pontiac is finally getting pumped up....after the horrible sad departure of the firebird ( damn you gm) __________________ Twist of the wrist

11-30-2003, 05:56 PM	#14 (permalink)
wrongfullyaccuzd Addict Location: NoVA	I think merker's right, the tail lights don't match up. In the second picture it COULD be a funny reflection, but I think the last pic was just a goof. Good catch, I didn't see it till I read your post.

11-30-2003, 06:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	i have a hard time telling the difference between almost all the cars in the pontiac line-up grand prix, grand am, bonneville the engine sounds great but i'll take a Subaru WRX or WRX STI anyday. __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder

12-12-2003, 01:39 AM	#16 (permalink)
eotlemac Banned	What about the GTO??

12-12-2003, 11:51 PM	#17 (permalink)
BonneFan Crazy Location: Ontario Canada	I am a moderator the BonnevilleClub. www.bonnevilleclub.com (currently offline for server maintenance as of Dec 12/03) Anyhow, I am somewhat of a Bonneville nut and we at BC.com are very excited about the new GXP lineup esp. the GXP Bonneville. Pontiac has taken the 4.6L Northstar from the Cadillac lineup (SLS in particular) and dropped it into a partially redesigned 2000+ body design. Gone is the 3800 SC (L67 engine) putting out 240HP and 280 TQ at the crank. The SSEi will no longer exist after the 2003 model year. The SE and SLE trim levels maintain the 205 HP 3800 (L36 Normally aspirated engine) Also the trademark foglamps of the SSEi (directly beside the front plates) is phased out. Sadly for Bonneville fans in Canada....it will no longer exist after the 2005 model year. oh..I had an 89 Bonneville SE (cream puff car..lol) and now drive a 96 Olds Aurora with a 4.0 Northstar. __________________ "I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters." - Frank Lloyd Wright (1868-1959)

12-13-2003, 09:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
Tech Addict Location: Baltimore MD	the tailights are different, i did notice that... i don't like the first set of tailights, but the rest of the car looks fine... it's a pretty sweet car, if it wasn't FWD!!!!!! when will GM learn? it's hard to be GM fan these days __________________ -Tim- ~I swear sometimes i feel like i'm married to a child. ~You better watch who you're calling a child, Lois, cause if i'm a child than you know what that makes you? a pedophile. and i'll be damned if i'm going to stand here and be lectured by a pervert.

12-25-2003, 12:06 PM	#19 (permalink)
silent_jay Her Jay Location: Ontario for now....	it still looks like the grand am, grand prix they need to come up with at least some exterior changes between the models __________________ Absence makes the heart grow fonder