can anyone identify this engine? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Sion · 11-07-2003, 05:19 AM

if the hotlink goes down, click this: http://www.steelerwatch.com/vbulleti...?postid=284244

Stare At The Sun · 11-07-2003, 06:17 AM

I have no idea, but that kicks ass. I want one.

supafly · 11-07-2003, 06:52 AM

Looks great, but i don't know.

peacy · 11-07-2003, 08:41 AM

According to my estimates (based on the fact that the engine block can hold a wine bottle) we're looking for a V8 displacing ~4 litres with 90°.
If we could see the crankshaft we could narrow down the search (flat-plane or cross-plane).

Peryn · 11-07-2003, 10:10 AM

my guess would be a ford 5.0 maybe. With pistons that size, my guess is its more than 4L, unless its got a really short stroke. Prolly just a 350 or 302....doubt its any really special block.

reconmike · 11-07-2003, 11:06 AM

where the timing cover bolts it is not a SBC, it looks like a small block ford

drawerfixer · 11-07-2003, 11:25 AM

That is completely kickass. I would pay out the ass for something that cool.

Spyder_Venom · 11-07-2003, 12:40 PM

I would say an old osmobile, it has the W shaped bell housing unlike the Ford and the SBC which have a point at the top. The only V8s that I know that have that are the Pontiacs and the olds but its not a SBP motor, those have a flat intake manifold galley.

Snakebyt · 11-07-2003, 01:34 PM

thats cool, but would be a bitch to move, blocks are heavy.. maybe i should try that, i think we have 3 or 4 blocks laying around the shop

Moonduck · 11-07-2003, 06:17 PM

Cool as hell. I want one. Gotta find me a cheap block.

FastShark85 · 11-07-2003, 07:20 PM

Looks like an older design...there aren't channels in there for coolant flow right next to the cylinders.

telekinetic2 · 11-07-2003, 07:27 PM

I love that the crank sprocket to drive the cam is just hanging in the chain...

Sion · 11-07-2003, 11:16 PM

note for those trying to determine what engine this is. I'd bet that its an aluminum block. that should narrow the choices down quite a bit.

grumpyolddude · 11-08-2003, 06:28 AM

The block looks like an old Buick 215. Could be a Land Rover block. They bought the plans for the 215 from GM and have been making aluminum copies for a few years.

irseg · 11-08-2003, 09:59 AM

That is too cool. Antique radios and cars are hobbies of mine. And I like my alcohol too. I'd be proud to have that room in my house.

onetime2 · 11-08-2003, 10:11 AM

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Originally posted by grumpyolddude
The block looks like an old Buick 215. Could be a Land Rover block. They bought the plans for the 215 from GM and have been making aluminum copies for a few years.

That was the thinking on another board that I frequent (I posted the pic to see what they had to say). Here's a link that shows the motor you speak of:

http://www.geocities.com/MotorCity/T...08/215eng.html

grumpyolddude · 11-08-2003, 12:40 PM

Excellent link, onetime.

Check the profile on the conn. rod and the depth of the piston skirt. Uniquely Buick!

GM should never have quit on this engine. The big cube pony cars drove it out of business, but it was perfect for the Special and Skylark.

Look at the flat plane of the bass. Unmistakeable.

ireallydontknow · 11-08-2003, 03:35 PM

i want one of those

merkerguitars · 11-11-2003, 08:32 PM

I wonder how hard it would be to find one of those engine blocks in a junkyard....if not i wonder where i can find a different type of v8 aluminum block

Sion · 11-12-2003, 04:59 AM

merk, the 4.1 liter V8 that was used in many Cadillacs (and some other gm cars I believe) in the 80s shouldnt be hard to find. they made tons of em.

Scorps · 11-12-2003, 09:44 AM

Humm I got a old cast-iron block in my garage but that might be to heavy for the floor...LOL

grumpyolddude · 11-13-2003, 09:34 AM

Merk, you might check with any local engine rebuilders in your area. If they don't have any scrap engines on hand, they'll know the best places to look. Have fun, post a pic of the results!

irseg · 11-13-2003, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by Sion
merk, the 4.1 liter V8 that was used in many Cadillacs (and some other gm cars I believe) in the 80s shouldnt be hard to find. they made tons of em.

Ahh yes, the HT4100. Only engine in recent history I can think of that's even worse than the Ford 3.8 V6. You know it's bad when it comes with stop-leak in the coolant from the factory in a halfassed attempt to stop internal leaks from corroding the bearings. It would definitely serve much better as a coffee table.

harris Jeffer · 11-28-2003, 09:15 AM

it looks like a 5 liter Porsche 928 engine circa 1986

catback · 11-28-2003, 06:51 PM

That table has some nice displacement

Ilow · 12-02-2003, 08:42 PM

that's an awesome piece of art, but shouldn't they be stowing the wine upside down so the corks don't dry out? PS, the alum. block LR theory seems plausible.

RotEx · 12-03-2003, 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by harris Jeffer
it looks like a 5 liter Porsche 928 engine circa 1986

dood that car had a straight 6 in it...

Mill · 12-03-2003, 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by RotEx
dood that car had a straight 6 in it...

Dude, the 928 was always a V8. I don't think Porsche even made a I-6.

As for the coffee table, it's a what is now known as a Rover V8. The design was bought from GM in the 60's and has been in Rover 3500's, Triumph Stag's, TR8's, MGB GT V8's, TVR's, Land Rover's, Range Rover's, and lots of small manufatures like Marcos and Morgan.

Sion · 12-04-2003, 10:32 AM

1986 Porsche 928 came with a 4.7l OHV V8.

grumpyolddude · 12-06-2003, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Mill
Dude, the 928 was always a V8. I don't think Porsche even made a I-6.

As for the coffee table, it's a what is now known as a Rover V8. The design was bought from GM in the 60's and has been in Rover 3500's, Triumph Stag's, TR8's, MGB GT V8's, TVR's, Land Rover's, Range Rover's, and lots of small manufatures like Marcos and Morgan.

This dovetails nicely with my observations. I'd like to see some pics of that Porsche V8 for comparison purposes, tho.

herostar · 12-08-2003, 02:18 PM

that is tooo cool, I wonder how hard it'd be to make that...?

DerBlitzkrieger · 12-08-2003, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by irseg
Ahh yes, the HT4100. Only engine in recent history I can think of that's even worse than the Ford 3.8 V6. You know it's bad when it comes with stop-leak in the coolant from the factory in a halfassed attempt to stop internal leaks from corroding the bearings. It would definitely serve much better as a coffee table.

the 4.1L is definitely one of the worst engines ever made. right up there with the diesel 350s and the V-4-6-8.

MrGone · 12-09-2003, 03:46 AM

I forgot which make, but I know its a big block. its certianly not a small block ford.

grumpyolddude · 12-09-2003, 10:46 PM

Hey, Sion, do you have an answer, or is this just your way of keeping us mouth-breathers in suspense?

Sion · 12-10-2003, 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by grumpyolddude
Hey, Sion, do you have an answer, or is this just your way of keeping us mouth-breathers in suspense?

jwoody · 12-10-2003, 08:26 AM

I don't know a fuckin' thing about engines, but I know a cool-as-fuck coffee table when I see one.

Sion · 12-10-2003, 09:41 PM

from the link in Mr Mephisto's Weird car thread, this page identifies the engine as a Rover V8

http://www.mitchell.derbycounty.co.uk/weirdcars4.html

grumpyolddude · 12-11-2003, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by grumpyolddude
The block looks like an old Buick 215. Could be a Land Rover block. They bought the plans for the 215 from GM and have been making aluminum copies for a few years.

BINGO

11-07-2003, 05:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	can anyone identify this engine? if the hotlink goes down, click this: http://www.steelerwatch.com/vbulleti...?postid=284244 __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

11-07-2003, 06:52 AM	#3 (permalink)
supafly Psycho Location: Rotterdam	Looks great, but i don't know. __________________ Thumbs up

11-07-2003, 10:10 AM	#5 (permalink)
Peryn Junkie Location: San Diego, CA.	my guess would be a ford 5.0 maybe. With pistons that size, my guess is its more than 4L, unless its got a really short stroke. Prolly just a 350 or 302....doubt its any really special block. __________________ Dont cry kid, It's not your fault you suck.

11-07-2003, 11:06 AM	#6 (permalink)
reconmike Thank You Jesus Location: Twilight Zone	where the timing cover bolts it is not a SBC, it looks like a small block ford __________________ Where is Darwin when ya need him?

11-07-2003, 11:25 AM	#7 (permalink)
drawerfixer Stonerific Location: Colorado	That is completely kickass. I would pay out the ass for something that cool. __________________ They that can give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

11-07-2003, 06:17 AM	#2 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	I have no idea, but that kicks ass. I want one.

11-07-2003, 08:41 AM	#4 (permalink)
peacy Crazy Location: Reading, UK	According to my estimates (based on the fact that the engine block can hold a wine bottle) we're looking for a V8 displacing ~4 litres with 90°. If we could see the crankshaft we could narrow down the search (flat-plane or cross-plane).

11-07-2003, 12:40 PM	#8 (permalink)
Spyder_Venom Psycho Location: MN	I would say an old osmobile, it has the W shaped bell housing unlike the Ford and the SBC which have a point at the top. The only V8s that I know that have that are the Pontiacs and the olds but its not a SBP motor, those have a flat intake manifold galley. __________________ The local track whore

11-07-2003, 01:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Snakebyt Psycho Location: Lubbock Texas	thats cool, but would be a bitch to move, blocks are heavy.. maybe i should try that, i think we have 3 or 4 blocks laying around the shop

11-07-2003, 06:17 PM	#10 (permalink)
Moonduck Junkie Location: SE USA	Cool as hell. I want one. Gotta find me a cheap block.

11-07-2003, 07:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
FastShark85 Psycho Location: In the garage, under the car.	Looks like an older design...there aren't channels in there for coolant flow right next to the cylinders.

11-07-2003, 07:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
telekinetic2 Loser	I love that the crank sprocket to drive the cam is just hanging in the chain...

11-07-2003, 11:16 PM	#13 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	note for those trying to determine what engine this is. I'd bet that its an aluminum block. that should narrow the choices down quite a bit. __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

11-08-2003, 06:28 AM	#14 (permalink)
grumpyolddude Deliberately unfocused Location: Amazon.com and CDBaby	The block looks like an old Buick 215. Could be a Land Rover block. They bought the plans for the 215 from GM and have been making aluminum copies for a few years. __________________ "Regret can be a harder pill to swallow than failure .With failure you at least know you gave it a chance..." David Howard

11-08-2003, 09:59 AM	#15 (permalink)
irseg Junkie Location: Florida	That is too cool. Antique radios and cars are hobbies of mine. And I like my alcohol too. I'd be proud to have that room in my house.

11-08-2003, 12:40 PM	#17 (permalink)
grumpyolddude Deliberately unfocused Location: Amazon.com and CDBaby	Excellent link, onetime. Check the profile on the conn. rod and the depth of the piston skirt. Uniquely Buick! GM should never have quit on this engine. The big cube pony cars drove it out of business, but it was perfect for the Special and Skylark. Look at the flat plane of the bass. Unmistakeable. __________________ "Regret can be a harder pill to swallow than failure .With failure you at least know you gave it a chance..." David Howard Last edited by grumpyolddude; 11-08-2003 at 12:47 PM..

11-08-2003, 03:35 PM	#18 (permalink)
ireallydontknow Insane Location: San Jose, CA	i want one of those

11-11-2003, 08:32 PM	#19 (permalink)
merkerguitars Buffering......... Location: Wisconsin...	I wonder how hard it would be to find one of those engine blocks in a junkyard....if not i wonder where i can find a different type of v8 aluminum block __________________ Donate now! Ask me How! Please use the search function it is your friend. Look at my mustang please feel free to comment! http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?t=26985

11-12-2003, 04:59 AM	#20 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	merk, the 4.1 liter V8 that was used in many Cadillacs (and some other gm cars I believe) in the 80s shouldnt be hard to find. they made tons of em. __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

11-12-2003, 09:44 AM	#21 (permalink)
Scorps Lost!! Location: Kingston, Ontario	Humm I got a old cast-iron block in my garage but that might be to heavy for the floor...LOL __________________ A.K.A. PainTrain

11-13-2003, 09:34 AM	#22 (permalink)
grumpyolddude Deliberately unfocused Location: Amazon.com and CDBaby	Merk, you might check with any local engine rebuilders in your area. If they don't have any scrap engines on hand, they'll know the best places to look. Have fun, post a pic of the results! __________________ "Regret can be a harder pill to swallow than failure .With failure you at least know you gave it a chance..." David Howard

11-28-2003, 09:15 AM	#24 (permalink)
harris Jeffer Psycho Location: Black Dog Bay, Alaska	it looks like a 5 liter Porsche 928 engine circa 1986 __________________ I can't drive 55

11-28-2003, 06:51 PM	#25 (permalink)
catback Psycho Location: North America	That table has some nice displacement

12-02-2003, 08:42 PM	#26 (permalink)
Ilow Junkie Location: Pats country	that's an awesome piece of art, but shouldn't they be stowing the wine upside down so the corks don't dry out? PS, the alum. block LR theory seems plausible. __________________ "Religion is the one area of our discourse in which it is considered noble to pretend to be certain about things no human being could possibly be certain about" --Sam Harris

12-04-2003, 10:32 AM	#29 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	1986 Porsche 928 came with a 4.7l OHV V8. __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...

12-08-2003, 02:18 PM	#31 (permalink)
herostar Psycho Location: South Dakota	that is tooo cool, I wonder how hard it'd be to make that...? __________________ Got time to chill?

12-09-2003, 03:46 AM	#33 (permalink)
MrGone Tilted Location: WA	I forgot which make, but I know its a big block. its certianly not a small block ford. __________________ 1992 Maxima SE 5spd- Lots o mods. Maxima Guru 1968 Mustang Coupe 289ci Auto- Awaits 331 Stroker/T-56/Full Discs/and more.

12-09-2003, 10:46 PM	#34 (permalink)
grumpyolddude Deliberately unfocused Location: Amazon.com and CDBaby	Hey, Sion, do you have an answer, or is this just your way of keeping us mouth-breathers in suspense? __________________ "Regret can be a harder pill to swallow than failure .With failure you at least know you gave it a chance..." David Howard

12-10-2003, 08:26 AM	#36 (permalink)
jwoody Shackle Me Not Location: Newcastle - England.	I don't know a fuckin' thing about engines, but I know a cool-as-fuck coffee table when I see one. __________________ .

12-10-2003, 09:41 PM	#37 (permalink)
Sion Dumb all over...a little ugly on the side Location: In the room where the giant fire puffer works, and the torture never stops.	from the link in Mr Mephisto's Weird car thread, this page identifies the engine as a Rover V8 http://www.mitchell.derbycounty.co.uk/weirdcars4.html __________________ He's the best, of course, of all the worst. Some wrong been done, he done it first. -fz I jus' want ta thank you...falettinme...be mice elf...agin...