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Old 07-21-2004, 10:48 PM   #41 (permalink)
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Wow, I haven't been in here in a little while and it seems like the thread has kept on going.

Just to let you guys know. I did finally pick up TSX in November 2003 and I am totally enjoying the car. Extremely smooth high-rev engine and the finish is very nice. I picked up a silver one and its been great to drive. It has the power when I need it and the gas economy is still very decent.

Thanks for all your input folks, and its been great hearing from you.

P.S. When I bought the TSX, the Mazda 6 Sport hadn't come out yet, but at the time I need a car (moved to suburbia). If I had the money for a larger 2nd car, the Mazda 6 Sport would definitely be under my consideration list.
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Old 07-22-2004, 09:42 AM   #42 (permalink)
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I would rather walk everywhere, for the rest of my life, then spend one penny that I've earned in my life on a Honda. If someone gave me one as a gift, I'd surely stop talking to them.

Go with the 6s. You won't be dissappointed.

You feel the same way I do about Honda's TGhe RSX looks nice but its still a Honda deep down!

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Old 07-22-2004, 10:07 AM   #43 (permalink)
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You feel the same way I do about Honda's TGhe RSX looks nice but its still a Honda deep down!

Just curious, and I am NOT looking for a freakin' flame war here, but why don't you like Hondas?
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:35 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Mazda is a ford motor company... that's enough for me to fear their build quality.

Acuras are not overpriced Hondas. Their prices are the most competetive in the market considering their reliability. For instance, they could get away with selling the TL for $15k more than they are.

The TSX is a more refined Accord. They squeeze a lot of power out of a 4-cyl, add all of the creature comforts from the Accord's EX package and then some, upgrade the interior quality, give it a much more appealing exterior design, and they don't even sell it for more than the Accord EX.
De-tuning is one of my biggest pet peeves in the automotive world. I can see putting extra ports in an RX-8 engine for the sportiest model (wiht manual transmission,) but to "squueze a lot more power out of a 4-cyl" shows me that the originl model is characterized by a lack of effort.

Don't get me started on detuning cars for the US market.
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:39 AM   #45 (permalink)
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Just curious, and I am NOT looking for a freakin' flame war here, but why don't you like Hondas?
I was just thinking the same thing.
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Old 07-22-2004, 10:48 AM   #46 (permalink)
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Just curious, and I am NOT looking for a freakin' flame war here, but why don't you like Hondas?

I grew up a Chevy boy. And well I always hated japan cars...just started in the last year looking at Nissan and Mazda...its just I have always said to friends and family I would Never own a honda in my life, well I would like to stick to that....still don't like there looks plus my dad hates them also and if I ever brought one home he would never let it go..he would bug me every day.

The Acura's are nice but still Honda power.....Another thing is everyone owns a damn CIVIC and that also piss me off, I can go a day with out seeing 20 or the damn things around town! But Nissan and Mazda are limited around town if I own one of them you get noticed
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Old 07-22-2004, 11:39 AM   #47 (permalink)
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I grew up a Chevy boy. And well I always hated japan cars...just started in the last year looking at Nissan and Mazda...its just I have always said to friends and family I would Never own a honda in my life, well I would like to stick to that....still don't like there looks plus my dad hates them also and if I ever brought one home he would never let it go..he would bug me every day.

The Acura's are nice but still Honda power.....Another thing is everyone owns a damn CIVIC and that also piss me off, I can go a day with out seeing 20 or the damn things around town! But Nissan and Mazda are limited around town if I own one of them you get noticed
It's like car-racism.

That's ok.. I can't stand American cars.
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Old 07-22-2004, 12:18 PM   #48 (permalink)
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It's like car-racism.

That's ok.. I can't stand American cars.
Well GM still has to pull there head all the way out of there ass, until that I will never own a new Chevy, Pontiac are alright, but I have found a new favorite car and that the Nissan 240SX 89-94
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Old 07-22-2004, 01:24 PM   #49 (permalink)
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I have owned 4 Acuras and 2 mazdas. I put well over 100K on all of them. All were good cars. Acura wins out on dealer support and parts availability. When you get ready to sell or trade there is no comparison. The Acura will hold a lot more of its value.
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Old 07-28-2004, 06:20 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I like the new Mazda6 and also the Mazda3, both nice cars. But for me it's a no brainer.

I would have preferred the TL but my wife liked the TSX better so we just got a brand new one last week; no navigation, I'm my own navigator and I never get lost I really really like the car so far even more than I thought I would. Of course it only has a couple hundred miles on it. Both of us preferred the TSX over the Accord, but that's pretty nice too. We also still have an '89 Acura Legend since new which is my daily beater (so I don't have to wear out my '95 Supra turbo ) the Old Legend has over 105k miles, feels and acts like it will go another 100k at least without any problems.

Being a motorhead who enjoys driving on a road race course a few times a year and spirited driving most of the time, I'm already looking at how I can sneak a Comptech supercharger, lowering springs, low restriction exhaust, tweeked ECU, etc on the TSX without wifey noticing it - she never looks under the hood

As a related aside, a major national race team just switched their main race car from a Integra Type-R to the TSX since it has 2.4L vs the R's 2.0 and with some "minor" massaging, they think it will be much more competitive than the Integra ...even though they already kicked butt with the 'teg and are continuing to race it too from what I read. Based on a couple races already, it looks like their right about the TSX.

Fantasy aside, even if it stays all stock, this looks and feels like it will be a very enjoyable car to own.
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Old 07-28-2004, 09:18 AM   #51 (permalink)
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Being a motorhead who enjoys driving on a road race course a few times a year and spirited driving most of the time, I'm already looking at how I can sneak a Comptech supercharger, lowering springs, low restriction exhaust, tweeked ECU, etc on the TSX without wifey noticing it - she never looks under the hood
I supercharger, Low restriction exhaust and a ECU she wouldn't know, but if she came out one day and the car was setting an inch or more lower I think she might notice that! But she might like the handling better, just tell her about that. For she safety you might want to run te supercharger by her 2.
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Aww BadNick, you're really missing out on the TL.. it's a wonderful car.
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Old 07-28-2004, 01:07 PM   #53 (permalink)
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you're right Halx, I loved the look and feel of the new TL a lot more than the TSX. Fortunately, my ...ahhhem... very sensible wife already said maybe we should trade or sell the Old Legend for something more reliable for my daily transportation so I see a possible TL in my future ...EXCEPT did you hear/see that new RL with like 300hp and all wheel drive???? Man, I'm going to drive that asap!
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Old 07-28-2004, 01:09 PM   #54 (permalink)
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oh yeah ..Pain Train, your sig pic or whatever that nice little pic is called reminds me ...the TSX has HID headlights too ...two!
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Yeah... I've been keeping up with the new RL.. looks like an awesome car. Alas, I aint gonna pitch for one seeing as my new TL *just* fits into my budget.
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Old 07-29-2004, 04:23 AM   #56 (permalink)
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Mazda is a ford motor company... that's enough for me to fear their build quality.

By that logic, dont buy a Jag, because OMG its a Ford.
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Old 07-29-2004, 06:56 AM   #57 (permalink)
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By that logic, dont buy a Jag, because OMG its a Ford.
Jag's do stink my Aunt had a 01' and it had a lot of problems, so she sold it back to the dealer and bought a 99' Audi A8, now thats a nice car!
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By that logic, dont buy a Jag, because OMG its a Ford.
exactly.. nor volvos
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Old 07-29-2004, 12:17 PM   #59 (permalink)
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You can see the difference in the cars. Mazda is not wholly owned, iirc, Volvo and Jaguar are. For all your irony, I seriously wouldn't drive something so obviously badge-engineered as the models the latter two marques are beginning to churn out.

BTW, TVR have recently been taken over, and not by a major manufacturer. This means an injection of capital, and no downside in terms of platform sharing or navel searching for brand identity.
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Old 07-29-2004, 09:41 PM   #60 (permalink)
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TSX...........Acura you know will run forever, Mazda has never had a good name, but they said with these new models that all that has changed.

Good Luck!!
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Old 07-30-2004, 08:23 AM   #61 (permalink)
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TSX...........Acura you know will run forever, Mazda has never had a good name, but they said with these new models that all that has changed.

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Old 08-03-2004, 02:23 PM   #62 (permalink)
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You can see the difference in the cars. Mazda is not wholly owned, iirc, Volvo and Jaguar are. For all your irony, I seriously wouldn't drive something so obviously badge-engineered as the models the latter two marques are beginning to churn out.
Sorry, don't mean to venture off topic, but as a big fan of Volvo (and perhaps the only on this board), I have to say that Ford's acquisition of Volvo has gone over really well in that, by and large, Ford pretty much leaves the Swedes alone. In fact, in as much as badge engineering goes, there has been a reverse effect. The upcoming Ford 500 and Freestyle vehicles as well as the Mercury Montego are all based on Volvo's P2 platform (which Volvo uses for all their cars except the new S40/V50) which was developed prior to the Ford acquisition. The S40/V50 are the first cars to actually come out having been designed after the acquisition, and they've had excellent reviews. They share the platform with the upcoming Ford Focus as well as the... MAZDA 3.

And why should Ford start messing with Volvo? IIRC Volvo is the only member of the Ford PAG that's really turning a profit.

Not sure about Jaguar. Not a fan of the X-Type's styling, but my grandfather/mother just got an S-Type and it's pretty slick (that set of grandparents are big fans of Jaguar, and have owned several in the past). Other than a couple of minor ergonomic issues for the driver, the interior is incredibly comfortable. Just like the older models, but scaled down to fit the smaller car.

And to be slightly on topic, a friend has the Mazda 6s and it is a pretty nice car. The styling all-around seemed nice and clean to me, and he's been very happy with the performance of the car. I have no experience with the TSX.

okeef19, glad to hear that you've been happy with the purchase. Here's to it staying that way for many many miles to come. Cheers!

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Old 08-03-2004, 03:50 PM   #63 (permalink)
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The Jag S-types are built on the for taurus platform, need I say more?
Ever since Jag sold out, a jag is no longer a JAG.

Good choice on the TSX, I love acura's new styling in that car and the TL and their build quality is excellent.

And that chevy guy from Ontario,
Always hated japan cars? Did you fight in WWII or something? I guess you will never know what its like to drive a vehicle you dont have to fix every weekend. Do you hate fuel injection too?

I have always hated american cars. They are poorly designed, inferior materials (check out the dash in a new dodge ram), and the styling is blah. I have never owned an american car (but driven plenty of them) and hopefully never will.
p.s. I am a US resident.
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Old 08-04-2004, 10:13 AM   #64 (permalink)
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My G35 Coupe will be fitted with a stillen twin turbo in 6 weeks and (combined with my other mods) i will be putting down 413 hp to the rear wheels.

the 2005 350Z will have a limited edition cobra crushing NISMO PACER that will come with 354hp.

and in 2007, watch out for the 4.5 litre twin-turbo GTR!!!! BITCHES!!!

just kidding...i love all cars...that's what being a car enthusiast is all about...but i have a particular affinity for nissan. dont sleep on 'em.

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Old 08-05-2004, 04:38 PM   #65 (permalink)
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And that chevy guy from Ontario,
Always hated japan cars? Did you fight in WWII or something? I guess you will never know what its like to drive a vehicle you dont have to fix every weekend. Do you hate fuel injection too?

I guess you mean me!

I didn't say i hate all jap cars just hate Honda, I'm right now looking at buying a Nissan 240SX(don't know year yet)

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Nissan owns you all!!!!!

My G35 Coupe will be fitted with a stillen twin turbo in 6 weeks and (combined with my other mods) i will be putting down 413 hp to the rear wheels.

the 2005 350Z will have a limited edition cobra crushing NISMO PACER that will come with 354hp.

and in 2007, watch out for the 4.5 litre twin-turbo GTR!!!! BITCHES!!!

just kidding...i love all cars...that's what being a car enthusiast is all about...but i have a particular affinity for nissan. dont sleep on 'em.
Ya 07' looks liek they got a replacment for the Skyline R34 GTR finally!

well the 99' R34 GTR put out 505 hp with a top speed od 190+ mph now that is badass!
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