fatmanforprez

Ok well i'll start with some back story and then my question, my apologies on the length and minor-ness of the issue but I need to rant, if you want to ignore the drivel please just jump to the last fullish paragraph. here goes. I am as my friends will tell you and as nobody believes when they hear a huge fan of the truth, and not just telling it but no deception of any kind and no avoiding mentioning things. The only thing that makes me hold a secret is a friends request, but I can keep a secret for a friend when I need to. This unusual viewpoint was brought on by realizing that my scheming and lying earlier in life sucked and was hurting me more than helping.

And now I am in a relationship with a woman who would have earned the title perfect as recently as 18 hrs ago. I knew she wasn't going to share my mores and I had no problem hell I even knew she was a bit of a compulsive liar, though I had downplayed the meaning of that in my mind I realize that now.

Long story short I now know she was lying to me, who couldn't see that coming. But it is not a lie worth telling she was lying to me about being ok, and now I find out she feels here world is coming down rapidly. I had seen the clues but missed it. I disregarded all the signs and was going to interrogate a friend about what was wrong but before I could another just came out and told me.

She told a friend everything over the phone not 3 feet from me (we were driving), and held her to secrecy, I knew the conversation had a bad tone for how jovial the friend was trying to be. Hence why I was going to interrogate her once I knew she had cooled down and we were alone.

Now I have spent every minute since I found out my suspicions were true wondering th how why whens whats and all the normal questions in this situation. And her reasons interest me something fierce, and I have a bit of a pet peeve for the thought that this is her way of baiting me into a conversation (as was suggested in a sexuality thread about abortion that just struck a chord with me) or that women are more emotionally connected and are right to pull little stunts to get communication, and various other thoughts along the line of women + emotions = excuse. I know it sounds cold and I am waiting for a tongue thrashing from mal or one of her priestesses about it.


So finally my question. How do you feel about truth, does anyone hold my viewpoint that it is the only option or the opposite viewpoint that it is useless and weakening. And more specifically how do you feel about being lied to by the people close to you both with them as the cause and through coercion by a friend. And for my final loaded question am I the only one who is really ticked off by the communication games people play (I know I said women earlier but dammit everyone does it) and just wish people would talk when they needed and say what they need to and ask what they need to.

Thanks for listening to me rant and for answering because its a collection of questions I am sure has been asked before but I don't think in this light, if I shouldn't have opened the thread I apologize or if I misplaced it I apologized.

Jinn

Truth is always relative. In essence, no one can ever tell the "full truth" because they cannot be simultaneously aware of all their lies by omission.

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fatmanforprez

touche salseman, but as in most everything we do i was talking not about absolute truth but rather the idea of trying to tell the best truth one can. It is a common thread that unless you go out of your way to hearald in the idea of relativity amongst a subject then you are speaking of your viewpoint within that subject. Good point either way