TeKiZeRo

What's one the best protein supplements out there? I work out and I hear its good for you to take protein supplements.

bryan2766

Whey Protein from ON is what I currently take, you can get it from www.bodybuilding.com

TeKiZeRo

Are there any other brands?

G5_Todd

thats what i take.........


tastes good.........with milk

G5_Todd

st33lr4t

there are lots but ON is the best

intecel

I'm currently using "American Whey", bought at GNC... Not the cheapest or best quality Whey powder, but I needed it in a pinch.

I'm going to try 'All the Whey'. Have heard some great things about it. Vanilla flavored powder is good in a glass of lowfat / skim milk, and it's a bit cheaper than the stuff I have now.

www.allthewhey.com

itch vaccine

I didn't know you can have protein in supplements, I thought they were too diverse to be made into "supplementary-stuff"

Looks like I'm wrong >.<

limey

I use Prostar Whey Protein. I've used vanilla and chocolate and both taste amazing.

TeKiZeRo

I hear if you take protein right now, it will be harder for you to process it later in life. Is this true?

stevie667

Not in the slightest.

Proteins, fats and carbohydrates are all biologically important molecules, without which we have the unfortunate problem of keeling over dead.
Now, if we eat a lot of these molecules, we simply get big (what type of big you get is dependant on what you eat and if/how you exercise). There isn't any kind of negative feedback mechanism in the body that stops you absorbing protein later in life because you eat loads now.
Any degredation in your bodies ability to absorb protein as you grow old is most likely just due to old age affecting the digestive system.


Now, for the original question.
Why exactly do you want to use protein supplemenation? If it's for post-workout shakes after weightlifting, then look for whey proteins (produced as a by product of cheese making). They are absorbed into the body faster, and have more bio-available amino acids. Because it is more quickly absorbed, whey protein isn't best for non-post workout shakes.
If your looking for a general protein supplement because your diet is lacking for whatever reason, then try ceasin protein (the main protein in milk) as it is slower acting, and therefor will give you steady protein release over a period of time. For this reason it is advisable not to use ceasin after a workout.

There are other types of protein out there, but those two are the main ones.

Remember though, don't get the majority of your protein intake from supplements, get it from real food.

TeKiZeRo

Well I just started working out and I would like to take a protein shake before I work out or something or after. So Whey Protein will do the stuff? What's with all the different Whey brands? I am not looking to be ultra-bulky-buff but just slightly bigger than I am and I am also doing HIIT to have more muscle definition.

stevie667

For a pre-workout, i'd advise something such as a tuna sandwich an hour or so before, plenty of carbs and protein to keep you going.
After the workout is the best time for the shakes, as your body is screaming for food.

Brand wise, i'd say go for Optimum nutrition whey, nice amount of protein per serving, relativly cheap and danged tasty.

G5_Todd

on my lifting days i do a shake in the morning after i shower......another one about an hour b4 i plan on working out and the last one as soon as i get home from the gym.....

on my off days i using drink two....one inbetween lunch and dinner and another about 90 mins after dinner....

intecel

I usually only drink a shake with whey after my workout. A scoop of 30 grams in a small glass of 1% milk. After your workout, your body looks to feed the muscles. A lot of what I have heard is that you should get in a sitting of protein within 30 minutes of a workout. Your body absorbs it better in this time frame.

Don't go overboard with the protein powder though. Your body cannot use more than around 40 grams per sitting. The rest will either be flushed from your system, or stored as fat.

aa1037

I use ON's 100% Whey

ironx

dymatize elite.

ON pales in comparison in terms of taste.

TeKiZeRo

I'm 5'11 and 155 lbs. I am asian so I am naturally kinda of average build like all other asians. Right now I am trying to burn fat to have more muscle definition and get stronger at the same time to get bigger. But I don't want any excess protein to be stored as fat though.

LiveOriginal

I suggest a protiens shake called "Swole". I myself don't know too much about it. I just work out. But a friend of mine who is doing a lot of bodybuilding recommended it to me. It's not too expensive, and it tastes good - and apparently it works, 'cause he's ripped as hell.

yeagbltz86

Nathigh.com, will match the lowest price you can find, and take off another 5% of that price you find.

Nature's best ISOPURE is the best "Pure protein" but it's not the best tasting stuff and it's expensive.

Optimum Nutrition Whey protein is the highest rated product on bodybuilding.com so I use that right now.

I'm not sure the benefit of either pure/whey but there is a difference

Anibal5

stevie667 is on the money
intecel ... the 30g-40g is an old myth, some general truth but far from that exact

best supplement is a good post workout drink
get a nice tasting and cheap WPC
WPC = whey protein concentrate .. NOT WPI
next make sure it has NO carbohydrates or if it does only a few grams at most per 100g of product
then go to a keg/home brew shop and buy some dextrose .. very very cheap
start with
~30-50g of protein
~20-40g of dextrose made up on water or milk
if you choose this ideal then keep posting and we can fine tune the ratio
MUST start sipping within minutes of finishing the workout
may take 30-45minutes to finish but MUST start drinking straight away
none of this "I'll make it when i get home bullshit"
keep us informed

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thingstodo

Thank you to everyone who suggested ON. I've been looking for the perfect powder and was tired of Myoplex. This stuff is great, mixes well, doesn't get thick and has a great taste.

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coash

mix your whey in water post workout not with milk

st33lr4t

definately have milk POW! you want to raise insulin concentrations and milk contains dextrose. now by milk i mean skim.

coash

milk firstly contains casein..the slow releasing protein. and it contains minimum dextrose, since it's mostly lactose, which is a galactose and glucose instead of just glucose, so it takes longer to break down.

trust me definitely NOT milk post workout...i'm curious where you found that info.

coash

i'm sure milk lowers the overall GI as well

ironx

the caesin in the milk is better off used during pre-bedtime.

definately just whey + water. and maybe some dextrose or maltodextrin to raise insulin levels, if you don't mind the calories.

whey with milk any other time is okay though. but you do not want to fcuk things up and use milk pwo.

thingstodo

So if I understand this right, mix your powder with milk if you drink a shake first thing in the AM or pre-workout, or just for a slower release. For a quick hit post workout, just use water.

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ibis

In case you were wondering, "ON" means Optimum Nutrition. And yes, it's what I use also.

BigJ11

I have tried a ton of different brands of both whey and sot protein shakes. I prefer whey, but becareful if you are lactose intolerant. You may be a little stinky the rest of the day. Whey will typically absorb into your body faster, so great for and after workout drink. Soy is good for a meal replacement since it will absorb much slower. Experiment with a blender, some ice, and just about anything you can think of. I like peanut butter, chocolate flavored shake and an occasional banana. The banana is great because the potasium will help you not get sore so easily.

st33lr4t

Milk, especially in combination with the highly insulinogenic amino acids found in whey, will lead to a synergistic increase in insulin output. This is of great benifit to the post-workout goals of rapidly decreasing cortisol and rapidly replenishment of muscle glycogen stores.

Milk also has a huge capacity to stimulate growth factors - and this is to a much greater degree than whey alone. In fact, this is actually partially because of the casein in milk, which maintains the integrety of IGF-1 in milk, allowing it to make it to the blood un-denatured (allowing it to be absorbed in this state). Casein is also highly anti-catabolic (again, more so than whey), something also of benifit in the post-workout window!

Milk is also a natural 'electrolyte solution' (with protein and carbs as well). These vitamins and minerals are excellent for post-workout recovery - adding once again to the overall benifit of milk post-workout.

Thus - whey + milk can actually work well together in the post-workout window to aid in recovery and to give an anabolic, anti-catabolic hit all at one!


FYI: milk contains 6g of dextrose per cup

coash

should I answer this to this nickname or to Emma-Leigh from ironmagazineforums

there are variables happening all at once post workout. something providing a certain benefit may prevent another benefit from happening. no doubt milk has plenty of benefits, but we are talking about the post workout window. priority p/o should be heighten the spike so the whey hits the bloodstream quickly so protein synthesis can start. you drink milk p/o you're not maximising your opportunity, regardless of all the goodies milk contains. yea don't plagiarise.

irateplatypus

except in the most extreme cases... a few hard-boiled egg whites a day should provide all the protein you'll need in a day for most workout regimens. natural, low in cholesterol and fat (if yolk is discarded), and certainly less expensive than GNC supplements. A tablespoon or two of peanut never hurt anybody either.

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animal909

gained about 15 lbs of muscle (i know because i dropped about 2 inches in the waist =D ) from this company http://www.musashi.com.au/cpa/htm/htm_home.asp

athletics

I used ON Chocolate for a long time but I recently switched to Syntrax (Green Apple). The stuff tastes really good, like a jolly rancher. And its a more pure protein. Higher purity builds muscle better. If you can find it, give it a shot. Its a little more expensive, but not bad.

st33lr4t

pardon my laziness, maybe if i didnt have the vocabulary of a 10 year old then i would write something up for myself.

anyhow casein allows IGF-1 to maintain its binding capacity & structure whereas IGF-1 would normally undergo significant denaturation by the time it hits the blood. this quality tends to counterbalance & even supercede its slow absorption & processing. [http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hreadid=272067]

mokle

"ON" 100% Whey, it's the best stuff out there.

And take it with water.

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Ultimate_Gohan

I have tried lots of them to, and this is a person one so my favorite is Met-rx.
It mixes thick in water and I have to stop myself from drinking so much.

Next is ON, its been on previous threds. Not as thick as Met-rx but good and it contains a good amount of glutamine.

Last is Pure Protine. All are good except Chocolate. Its thiner than the rest and it has a very different taste because its sweeter but its the most expensive of them all.