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Church 06-06-2004 07:28 AM

Chest/Pecks
 
Hey,

I was wondering if anyone knew some good excercises to really burn fat in the chest area. I have some small man teets and I'm looking to get rid of those mofos. Anyone know some good machines or anything I can use? I have access to a full array of gym machines.

Thanks!

stevie667 06-06-2004 09:32 AM

Firstly, it's spelled pec(torical)s, people will bitch you around if you spell it with the K.

Secondly, there is no such thing as a spot fat reduction exercise, if there was, everyone would be a lot fitter than they are.

The best excerices you can do for chest development are dumbell flys and the bench press, as they work the largest areas of muscle, which will reduce the appearance of bitch tits.
But, any exerices are better than none, so just go for it really.

dirtyrascal7 06-06-2004 09:34 AM

just a few i can remember real quick:

bench press
incline bench press
decline bench press
dumbell press
butterfly machine

Cowman 06-06-2004 11:53 AM

Yeah, you can't reduce the fat in any specific place. If you were hoping to reduce them by summer time..well, that idea is pretty much shot(sorry). Build up some muscle, then clean up your diet and reduce your body fat. That's the only way you're going to lose them.

Church 06-06-2004 02:28 PM

That's what I figured, lol. I can always hope for some crazy exercise that I didn't know about yet.

And stevie667, you're right. That was a typo on my part. Sometimes my brain just doesn't accept abbreviations, heh.

Cowman 06-06-2004 02:56 PM

mother in law doesn't spell woman hitler rearranged..
there's no H, or N in mother in law

ronan 06-06-2004 04:40 PM

Most likely you have gyno, and if it is to far advanced that fatty tissue will not go no matter what yo do.

If you wont it removed you man need surgery... go see your doctor.

John Henry 06-06-2004 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Cowman
mother in law doesn't spell woman hitler rearranged..
there's no H, or N in mother in law

mot*h*er i*n* law

Run, swim or walk. All good for fat.

What's gyno? And is it really that hard to get rid of fat? Man, that's depressing. What if you catch it early (ish)?

seizei 06-06-2004 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stevie667
Firstly, it's spelled pec(torical)s, people will bitch you around if you spell it with the K.

This thread makes baby Jesus cry.

It's pectorals, or pectoralis (as in pectoralis major or minor)

To reduce the fat in that area, weight train a few times a week, do cardio a few times a week, and eat less calories than you are putting out in effort.

Should take about 6 months to a year of that.

ronan 06-07-2004 12:03 AM

Who cares hows it spelt, the man asked a question not a english lesson.... i dont know were you guys are reading this stuff about loosing fat on ur pecs but its all bs..

Fatty tissue in the pecs are in the gland and you cannot loose that tissue, gyno is basically bitch tits... the only real way to have it removed is surgery.

Bodybuilders usually develop them at some stage due to the use of steroids but it can also be a genetic thing happen to normal people.

My right pec is a little swollen from the use of steroids and i can assure you that no matter how much i diet or train its not going anywhere... well until i have surgery that is.

stevie667 06-07-2004 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by seizei
It's pectorals, or pectoralis (as in pectoralis major or minor)
The irony isn't lost, my apologies YNM.:p

As for Gyno, it's usually created when the body produces too much oestrogen (say from use of artificial testosterone, or genetic factors e.t.c), and creates further tissues in the breasts. Now, gyno in itself isn't something to be worried about, your unlikely to get it. If you do happen to get it, unless you catch it early and treat it with something like nolvo (if your taking pro-hormones or steriods), then surgery really is the only option.
Body fat, however, can be worked off in cardio, and with chest exercises building up the muscles, you will notice the difference in how damned good it looks.

lytri 06-07-2004 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronan
Who cares hows it spelt, the man asked a question not a english lesson.... i dont know were you guys are reading this stuff about loosing fat on ur pecs but its all bs..

Fatty tissue in the pecs are in the gland and you cannot loose that tissue, gyno is basically bitch tits... the only real way to have it removed is surgery.

Bodybuilders usually develop them at some stage due to the use of steroids but it can also be a genetic thing happen to normal people.

My right pec is a little swollen from the use of steroids and i can assure you that no matter how much i diet or train its not going anywhere... well until i have surgery that is.

I'm not sure I would take medical/fitness advice from anyone who writes like this. I think that's why people care how it's spelled.

jizzmasterp 06-08-2004 07:56 PM

I doubt you have gyno if you have a big belly. Its probably just fat. You can lose that through diet+ excersize.

FaderMonkey 06-09-2004 07:59 AM

Okay, so I'm trying to understand this whole fat in the chest thing (you guys are freaking me out!)...

Are you saying that ANY fat found in the chest area is gyno, or it could be just fat (like jizzmasterp just said)?? I don't have a REALLY big belly, but I have one. I started working out for the first time about a month ago so I pretty much have no muscle build yet. I have a little fat in the breasts, but could it be gyno? I've never taken steroids or anything like that. Is the only way to really know to go to a doctor and find out?

FaderMonkey 06-09-2004 08:12 AM

I guess I'm answering my own question. Here's an article from WebMD:

http://my.webmd.com/content/article/...531713CA348%7D

Quote:

When Guys Get Busty

I'm a 35-year-old man with an embarrassing problem. My nipples seem to be getting slightly larger, and there's some extra fat. It's almost like I'm growing breasts. What should I do about this?

Oct. 23, 2000 -- First, don't be overly worried. What you've noticed isn't all that unusual. In fact, studies show that 30% to 60% of adult men will develop a condition we call gynecomastia, or excessive growth of breast tissue (men do have breast tissue), over the course of their lives. Although the condition isn't usually serious, it can be linked to potentially dangerous health problems, so the best advice is to see your doctor.

In boys going through puberty, slightly enlarged breasts are no cause for alarm at all. It's just part of normal development and almost always goes away after a year or two. But since you're an adult, your doctor will probably want to find out more about what's going on -- especially if the changes came on suddenly or if you notice any soreness or tenderness.

First, your doctor will do a simple physical examination, feeling the area to see if the problem is caused simply by excess fat. If so, he or she may recommend that you get some exercise and lose some weight. But if your doctor detects an abnormal growth of glandular tissue, the next step is to figure out why.

Being overweight may still be part of the explanation. Excess fat tends to cause a man's body to produce more of the female hormone estrogen, which can stimulate breast tissue growth. But there are other, more common causes, as I describe in a September 1997 article in the journal Hormone Research. In about one-fourth of cases, excess breast tissue from puberty doesn't go away as it normally would. Another fourth of the cases are caused by such medications as hormone supplements, blood pressure drugs, or diuretics that either push up estrogen levels or block male hormones. An equal number of cases are linked to more serious problems, for example, tumors that affect the glands that produce hormones. And for the remaining cases, the cause is still unknown.

Even so, your doctor can usually do something about the problem. If weight loss doesn't solve it, drugs can often block the effect of estrogen and shrink the breast tissue. If that doesn't work, plastic surgery to remove the excess tissue can be considered.

One final point, guys: Having excess breast tissue may be embarrassing to you, but in most cases it's not serious and can be easily treated.
So, I guess I just need to keep exercising and see what happens.

stevie667 06-09-2004 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FaderMonkey
Okay, so I'm trying to understand this whole fat in the chest thing (you guys are freaking me out!)...

Are you saying that ANY fat found in the chest area is gyno, or it could be just fat (like jizzmasterp just said)?? I don't have a REALLY big belly, but I have one. I started working out for the first time about a month ago so I pretty much have no muscle build yet. I have a little fat in the breasts, but could it be gyno? I've never taken steroids or anything like that. Is the only way to really know to go to a doctor and find out?

Fat in the chest is 99% of the time just bodyfat, which if you don't have muscle to offset it, looks more obvious.

Gyno will be located more around the nipple region, rather than over the whole chest area.

CheeseButtons 06-11-2004 10:53 PM

Dumbell flys and inclined bench are the best chest shaping exercises you can do. Also to try and lose fat focusing on your chest, try doing burnout exercises...do low weight (like the 45lb bar only) with as many reps as possible...do it until you cannot lift the bar anymore.

gorilla 06-13-2004 09:43 PM

build up the muscle underneath the fat and then the man boobs wont stand out so much.

My favorite chest workout:
3 sets, 15 reps flat dumbell bench
3 sets, 15 reps incline dumbell bench
3 sets, 15 reps flat dumbell fly
3 sets, 15 reps cable cross-overs

My pecs are sore just thinkin about it...

diet and cardio is never a bad thing either

st33lr4t 06-14-2004 12:15 PM

spot reduction just doesnt happen. also ignore these so called toning or shaping exercises. you only need 3 exercise to have killer pecs. Flat bench (mid), Incline bench (upper), Parallel dips weighted (lower).

read more here: www.bodybuilding.com .

Qazwsxedc 06-17-2004 05:05 PM

what exercise works the inside of the pecs?

is the dumbell fly the exercise where you're on your back and you spread your arms out with weights in hand and you bring your hands together as if you are going to clap?

i think the dumbell fly works the inside of the pecs?

pocon1 06-17-2004 06:05 PM

There is no inside vs outside of the pec. Muscle fibers run the length of the muscle from the origin to the insertion. For the pec, this means from the upper arm to the breastbone. Therefore, you cannot contract one part more than the other. What you feel is the exteme range of motion that flyes bring into the movement. Your elbows travel further in a flye or pec deck than in a barbell bench press. However, this extreme stretch that many people look for is not good for you. your shoulder has a tremendous range of motion, but it sacrifices stability for it. If you push to the edge of flexibility, you sacrifice stability and risk injury.

If you do flyes or pec deck, do not overdo it. Your chest routine should generally be bench, incline bench, dumbell presses, standing cable presses, dips, etc. Notice that these are all compound joint movements. In real life, you do not move just one joint. How many joints does it take to kick a ball, swing a bat, punch someone? Use compound joint movements for the majority of your training.

Qazwsxedc 06-17-2004 06:19 PM

so no matter how i work my pecs, the whole muscle (inside and outside areas) will be worked evenly?

pocon1 06-18-2004 02:30 AM

yes


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