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Plan9Senior · 12-10-2003, 12:10 AM

I had heard about this, but never bothered to research it. I stumbled upon this article and found it interesting. Just think. Drinking 12 glasses of ice water a day not only is very healthy for you, but also burns around 100 Calories as a bonus

. Doesn't sound like much, but those Calories all add up during the course of a week. Next time you drink your water, be sure its iced water!

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For anyone trying to lose weight, this question is an exciting one! If you simply want to know if your body burns calories warming up the water, the answer is yes. But if you want to know if drinking a lot of ice water can help you lose weight, or keep weight off, this "yes" needs to be qualified with some calculations.

First of all, calories are case-sensitive. There are calories and then there are Calories. Calories with a big "c" are the ones used to describe the amount of energy contained in foods. A calorie with a little "c" is defined as the amount of energy it takes to raise the temperature of 1 gram of water 1 degree Celsius. What most people think of as a Calorie is actually a kilo-calorie: It takes one Calorie to raise the temperature of 1 kilogram of water 1 degree Celsius. So when you drink a 140-Calorie can of cola, you are ingesting 140,000 calories. There is no cause for alarm, because the conversion applies across the board. When you burn 100 Calories jogging a mile, you are burning 100,000 calories.

So, considering that the definition of a calorie is based on raising the temperature of water, it is safe to say that your body burns calories when it has to raise the temperature of ice water to your body temperature. And unless your urine is coming out ice cold, your body must be raising the temperature of the water. So calories are being burned.

Let's figure out exactly what you're burning when you drink a 16-ounce (0.5 liter) glass of ice water:

* The temperature of ice water can be estimated at zero degrees Celsius.
* Body temperature can be estimated at 37 degrees Celsius.
* It takes 1 calorie to raise 1 gram (0.0352 ounces) of water 1 degree Celsius.
* There are 454.56 grams in 16 ounces of water.

So in the case of a 16-ounce glass of ice water, your body must raise the temperature of 454.56 grams of water from zero to 37 degrees C. In doing so, your body burns 16,819 calories. But that's calories with a little "c." Your body only burns 17 Calories, and in the grand scheme of a 2,000-Calorie diet, that 17 isn't very significant.

But let's say you adhere to the "eight 8-ounce glasses of water a day" nutritional recommendation. In 64 ounces of water, there are 1,818.24 grams. So to warm up all that water, in the course of a day, your body burns 67,275 calories, or 67 Calories. And over time, that 67 Calories a day adds up. So, while you definitely shouldn't depend on ice water consumption to replace exercise or a healthy diet, drinking cold water instead of warm water does, in fact, burn some extra Calories!

There are also some other interesting pages linked to this page if you want to know some of the benefits to drinking more water.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question447.htm

Sleepyjack · 12-10-2003, 03:25 AM

Yeah i knew about this, although it's good that it burns a lot of calories, it does stall the digestive system, cause the body sorta goes into shock, cause it needs to heat up the water to process it. Hence the burning of calories. So it's a bad idea to drink cold/ice water around meal times. Also, anything normally at an extreme and not close to your body temperature isn't too good for your system generally. I don't know how bad it effects you but here's a small snippet about it:

"Very cold, or very hot drinks are not usually good for the digestive system at any time. When they vary too greatly from body temperatures, they may cause shock to the system. Dentists warn against very cold food or liquids on the teeth. Physicians note that those who are habituated to very hot drinks are more likely to develop throat cancer and digestive difficulties."

I don't know how badly it effects though?

I do drink a lot of icey or chilled water generally, although with or close to meals (especailly before) i like to have warm water (around 40 degrees, ie around the approximent body temp of 37).

So, i don't think drinking all iced water would be particulary good for you? unless you don't care about your innards much

It's good to mix it up with some warm water.

here's the whole article about warm water and it's benefits inm general, i've had for a while now. I really like to have peppermint tea, when it's cooled down a bit from boiling, damn good for digestion and relaxing. you feel really good, and it's good preparation for meals (ie if done half an hour or so before).

heres a bit of the article/review:

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"The first-thing-in-the-morning drink [of water] ~ preferably warm ~ flushes out the kidneys, prepares the stomach for food by stimulating the glands on its walls, and helps the bowels move regularly and naturally. This ritual has been a real lifesaver for many families, usually making illness minor and rare."

So let me re-write that in numerical annotation:

"The first-thing-in-the-morning drink [of water] ~ preferably warm:

1) flushes out the kidneys

2) prepares the stomach for food by stimulating the glands on its walls

3) helps the bowels move regularly and naturally

I also remember Dr. Moore saying *more* about this in person, which I would have heard at one of the several times I was privileged to hear him speak. (Once, waaaay early on, probably 19 years ago!), was in someone's home; another was at their business, another couple were at conferences, another was when I interviewed him (on video) for a High School resources video I made, and another was here in Longview once.) What I remember was him saying was that the water, to be easiest on the digestive system, should be fairly warm; anywhere between body temp and "pretty warm, but not hot." Not cold, so the body isn't shocked by getting such a huge dose of cold water, and so that it doesn't have to warm it up.

He also said that this is "the best regulator" and that usually within an hour you will be "eliminating." Something he says on page 47 makes that all the more desirable:

"The longer food remains in the intestines, the more likely it is to begin to decay rather than to be promptly dispatched by normal digestive processes. This and the likelihood of intestinal impaction or hard bowel movements raise the chances for disease and often contribute to intestinal fistulas or hemorrhoids."

Some have asked, "But does it really work?" And I can personally say that "Yes it does!!!" Of course, there will never be any way of knowing just how much better off I am, but I know that I like the "getting cleaned out" feeling it produces. (For me, it might be up to a couple of hours later.)

And then back on page 113 again, there are a few more healthful tips pertaining to the matter of water and health...

"Cleansing the body internally is equally important. (He had been talking about cleansing it *externally.*) Fruit juice or the water in our foods does not adequately replace plain, clear water."

"Children should be taught early to enjoy drinking plentiful amounts of water, never [the plentiful amounts] with meals, but often between meals, beginning a half hour or more before breakfast. Water at mealtime dilutes the gastric juices and slows digestion."

"A drink of cool water ~ not cold ~ is the best method of staving off hunger until meal time, since it depresses the activity of the digestive system."

"Very cold, or very hot drinks are not usually good for the digestive system at any time. When they vary too greatly from body temperatures, they may cause shock to the system. Dentists warn against very cold food or liquids on the teeth. Physicians note that those who are habituated to very hot drinks are more likely to develop throat cancer and digestive difficulties."

In closing, I just want to mention a little "spice o' life" tidbit... I have a certain glass I use for my "warm water in morning"! A very pretty one I got *just* for this purpose! I don't measure my water; I have just found that *eight gulps* is what works best for me. If you've never done this before, this much warm water might feel a bit nauseating at first, but when you start seeing (feeling?) the results, you know it's worth it! And after time, you DO get used to it.

I love the feeling of knowing I am taking better care of my "temple of the Holy Spirit," and of "doing it good and not evil all the days (mornings) of my life." (Taken from Proverbs 31 that talks about a wife doing her husband good and not evil all the days of her life! )

here's the linkage: http://www.homeschooloasis.com/art_w...in_morning.htm

warm water, coupled with fruit in the morning is a great way of cleansing your system

also, sorry Plan9, i don't mean to rain on your parade. I think it's good you raise the point of cold water as a weight loss thing, although, you should be careful about when you do it, how much and also consider having warm water as well. Health/nutrition isn't all about loosing weight

gal · 12-10-2003, 04:27 AM

Interesting.. never thought of that.

Plan9Senior · 12-10-2003, 12:30 PM

Heh, I think you read a little to much into it Sleepyjack

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I retract my post. ICE WATER IS THE DEVIL! BAN ICE WATER!!!!

1337haxor · 12-10-2003, 08:17 PM

dang it
Everything I drink at either has ice in it or is cold. Going to be hard breaking this habit

-Robert

Plan9Senior · 12-10-2003, 08:29 PM

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Originally posted by 1337haxor
dang it
Everything I drink at either has ice in it or is cold. Going to be hard breaking this habit

-Robert

Drink it iced for crying out loud

. I am sorry I even posted this, now sleepyjack will have people fearing ice cubes

Sparhawk · 12-10-2003, 08:36 PM

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Originally posted by Plan9
Drink it iced for crying out loud . I am sorry I even posted this, now sleepyjack will have people fearing ice cubes

<img src="http://images.tvnz.co.nz/entertainment/film/ice_cube_c.jpg">

AAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! RUN AWAY!!!!!

Cycler · 12-10-2003, 10:28 PM

What about just munching on the ice? I guess that is bad for you as well.

Sleepyjack · 12-10-2003, 10:45 PM

Oh shit, as i said, i don't really know how adverse the affects are?

It's not like you can have 500ml of iced water and then die or something?
Just try to mix it up, every now and then, with some warm stuff as well?

geessh, it is water and thats good for you! So don't stop drinking cause it has ice in it. hehe i feel bad for posting all that crap now

just that i religously try to have my warmish water and fruit every morning, that's why i looked into it that deep

people fret for their coffee etc in the morning, i fret for my fruit and warm water/peppermint tea

i still drink iced water as well, it will not be the death of you. Also, although i have no article at hand iced water is known to enhance and accentuate your abdominals, abs, cloits and doits. So then the women will be all up and on you!

that strong-bad thing, has had me laughing for days now

In summation, water is good, drink it!

Plan9Senior · 12-10-2003, 11:36 PM

Sleepyjack is obviousy in a cult that fears water! He is EVIL!!!

He is "all up ons".

Sleepyjack · 12-11-2003, 07:40 AM

I may be evil, but at least i have my cloits and doits!

12-10-2003, 10:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Cycler Float on.... Alright Location: Where the wind comes sweeping down the plains, i.e. Oklahoma	What about just munching on the ice? I guess that is bad for you as well. __________________ "I'm not even supposed to be here today." "I assure you we're open."

12-10-2003, 10:45 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	Oh shit, as i said, i don't really know how adverse the affects are? It's not like you can have 500ml of iced water and then die or something? Just try to mix it up, every now and then, with some warm stuff as well? geessh, it is water and thats good for you! So don't stop drinking cause it has ice in it. hehe i feel bad for posting all that crap now just that i religously try to have my warmish water and fruit every morning, that's why i looked into it that deep people fret for their coffee etc in the morning, i fret for my fruit and warm water/peppermint tea i still drink iced water as well, it will not be the death of you. Also, although i have no article at hand iced water is known to enhance and accentuate your abdominals, abs, cloits and doits. So then the women will be all up and on you! that strong-bad thing, has had me laughing for days now In summation, water is good, drink it! Last edited by Sleepyjack; 12-10-2003 at 10:47 PM..

12-10-2003, 04:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
gal Insane	Interesting.. never thought of that.

12-10-2003, 12:30 PM	#4 (permalink)
Plan9Senior Banned Location: Orange County, California	Heh, I think you read a little to much into it Sleepyjack . I retract my post. ICE WATER IS THE DEVIL! BAN ICE WATER!!!!

12-10-2003, 08:17 PM	#5 (permalink)
1337haxor Insane Location: PA	dang it Everything I drink at either has ice in it or is cold. Going to be hard breaking this habit -Robert

12-10-2003, 11:36 PM	#10 (permalink)
Plan9Senior Banned Location: Orange County, California	Sleepyjack is obviousy in a cult that fears water! He is EVIL!!! He is "all up ons".

12-11-2003, 07:40 AM	#11 (permalink)
Sleepyjack Fast'n'Bulbous Location: Australia, Perth	I may be evil, but at least i have my cloits and doits!