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joshlaraw · 10-29-2007, 03:20 PM

Take a look at the trailer for this new film about raw food.
It's a documentary about six people, who normally eat fast food, who decide to go 100% raw for a month. It features interviews with doctors, experts, and raw foodists including Gabriel Cousens, David Wolfe, and Woody Harrelson.

The trailer on Youtube at:

YouTube - Raw For 30 Days trailer

Visit the Raw For 30 Days site at:

www.rawfor30days.com

Who here is raw?

ChrisJericho · 10-29-2007, 03:38 PM

Looks good, on the whole. It really should say rawVEGANfor30days though. Why not have some raw eggs and meat included?

I do especially agree with the point regarding how in general we as a society are much more inclined to pop pills than eat more broccoli.

Baraka_Guru · 10-29-2007, 03:46 PM

One of the guys associated with this film is David Wolfe, who is a well-known raw food vegan. There are health issues with raw foods when it comes to dairy, eggs, and meat, so they are generally left out. I think a purely raw food diet is too restrictive, but there certainly are benefits to certain raw foods.

Ustwo · 10-29-2007, 04:16 PM

Mmmmm sushi........

Vegans can't be right, because sushi = perfection.

Baraka_Guru · 10-29-2007, 04:19 PM

Come on, vegan futomaki ain't bad....

Ustwo · 10-29-2007, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

Come on, vegan futomaki ain't bad....

Thats like saying turkey bacon isn't bad.

Sushi > vegan anything

And on a serious note, vegans have to make sure they are eating things like omega-3 fatty acids (and they can't get long chain omega-3's).

Sushi is the best of all worlds, healthy, and tasty. I get the rolls a lot so I get a good dose of veggies as well.

Willravel · 10-29-2007, 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo

Thats like saying turkey bacon isn't bad.

Sushi > vegan anything

And on a serious note, vegans have to make sure they are eating things like omega-3 fatty acids (and they can't get long chain omega-3's).

Sushi is the best of all worlds, healthy, and tasty. I get the rolls a lot so I get a good dose of veggies as well.

Bacon sushi > sushi.

soma · 10-29-2007, 04:50 PM

I do the whole food diet.
I guess I eat raw food, but definitely not all raw.

Ustwo · 10-29-2007, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

Bacon sushi > sushi.

Combining bacon and sushi would create something so perfect that you would go mad knowing you would never taste anything better again.

I advise against it.

newtx · 10-29-2007, 10:58 PM

This would be really tough on the Atkins plan.

Plan9 · 10-30-2007, 02:43 AM

I'm going to wrap a vegetarian with bacon and cook them up.

...

Insane diets... the new black.

Leto · 10-30-2007, 03:04 AM

steak Tartar. mmmmm my favourite restaraunt meal. too bad it isn't included.

Baraka_Guru · 10-30-2007, 03:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

Bacon sushi > sushi.

This is American, isn't it?

Ustwo, most (Western) meat eaters don't get nearly as many omega-3 acids as would be beneficial (i.e. EHA, DHA). And most get too many omega-6s. There are a few lucky vegans who can convert ALA to long-chain fatty acids. Though, they are few and far between.

And, newtx, don't get me started on the Atkins diet.

Plan9 · 10-30-2007, 06:09 AM

(crams almonds, bananas, and lima beans into tuna steak sushi)

BEHOLD! The perfect raw food!

Ustwo · 10-30-2007, 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crompsin

(crams almonds, bananas, and lima beans into tuna steak sushi)

BEHOLD! The perfect raw food!

Lack of bacon keeps it from being perfect. Even raw bacon.

ShaniFaye · 10-30-2007, 06:16 AM

Please remind me to stay away from the person who is going to ruin perfectly good bacon with disgusting sushi....ugh makes me wanna barf just thinking about it

Leto · 10-30-2007, 08:56 AM

hmmm.. I have to disagree. I love bacon, and I love sushi... together they sound perfect!

perhaps sashimi instead?

Ustwo · 10-30-2007, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShaniFaye

Please remind me to stay away from the person who is going to ruin perfectly good bacon with disgusting sushi....ugh makes me wanna barf just thinking about it

Women are not invited to this conversation, most don't even understand the the joy that is a rare steak, how can they fathom the depth and perfection that is sushi?

Impossible I say.

ShaniFaye · 10-30-2007, 09:34 AM

because I can fathom the depth and perfection of bacon? That should count for something

Plan9 · 10-30-2007, 09:47 AM

Random Raw Food shit:

Quote:

Raw Food: Healthier than Cooked?

Dear EarthTalk: Are raw foods healthier to eat than cooked foods?
-- Kris Amitzboll, Coledale, Australia

Proponents of raw foods, sometimes called “living foods,” believe that raw foods are much healthier for the body than cooked or processed foods. Followers of diets based wholly or largely on raw foods claim numerous health benefits, including increased energy levels, clearer skin, better digestion, weight loss and reduced risk of heart disease.

A purely raw food diet, as its name implies, is based on consuming only unprocessed, usually organic, whole plant-based foods, such as fresh (or dried) fruits and vegetables, nuts and seeds, beans, grains and legumes, other organic or natural foods which have not been processed, and freshly made fruit and vegetable juices.

According to the Living and Raw Foods website, raw, uncooked foods are believed to contain essential food enzymes which help the digestion process without relying on the body to produce the enzymes that are lost through cooking. It is also thought that cooking (heating foods above 116 degrees Fahrenheit) destroys vitamins and minerals and that cooked foods take longer to digest and tend to allow partially digested fats, proteins and carbohydrates to clog up our digestive system and arteries. In Living Cuisine, The Art and Spirit of Raw Food (available from best-cooking-books.com), raw food chef-to-the-stars Renee Loux Underkoffler argues, “Raw foods make optimal assimilation of nutrition easy, provide pure, clean energy for the body, and do not require a lot of energy for digestion.”

Traditional nutrition experts refute this idea, though the American Dietetic Association (ADA) and others are doing studies regarding the possible benefits of a raw food diet. Claudia Gonzalez, a registered dietitian and spokesperson for the ADA says that eating all raw, all the time, is an “extreme” diet, but acknowledges, “If you eat more raw foods in your diet (without adding calories) that’s always a good thing. Replacing refined, processed foods with raw foods is a healthy move. Eating a few raw meals a week can be great, but it’s important not to go to the extreme.”

Gonzalez, who has studied raw food diets, says it’s hard to eat more than 1,200 calories a day in raw foods. While this might be great for weight-loss, she says, once the weight comes off, that might not be enough to sustain a person’s energy, especially if they are doing physically demanding work.

If you decide to go raw, there are benefits to the environment as well. The lower you eat on the food chain, the less impact you will have on the Earth’s resources. According to certified nutritionist and raw foods advocate Monica Dewart, “100 percent of the waste materials (seeds, peels, etc) of a raw diet are biodegradable and great for composting. This is the ultimate environmentally-friendly diet!”

If I could only stand 1200 calories a day I would starve in a week. Oh-HELLS-nawh. In the words of Jeff Bishop: I need fud in my fud-hole.

Uhh... so driving a Prius and being a Raw Food a-hole make you a super hippie.

...

UsTwo,

But raw bacon isn't crunchy and delicious. It also doesn't cover fifteen city blocks in a magical meat odor that reduces the male populace to pacified, drooling babies.

This super-hippie-rich-and-bored-wearing-hemp-clothes-where's-my-Prius raw food diet is probably too healthy for controversy despite it missing a huge chunk of human/food systems evolution. Some foods are actually more healthy for you when cooked.

Jesus, cooking is something humans developed for a reason. And that reason is pizza!

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Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

And, newtx, don't get me started on the Atkins diet.

I'd enjoy seeing Baraka_Guru on the Atkins diet. In the words of the Yowl... "He wouldn't be a happy panda."

Willravel · 10-30-2007, 10:02 AM

2 cups Sushi rice
2 and 1/4 cups water
about 1/4 cup rice vinegar
2 tablespoons sugar
1 teaspoon of kosher salt
Plenty of smoked salmon
FRIED BACON

oh, and nori sheets.

Ustwo · 10-30-2007, 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willravel

2 cups Sushi rice
2 and 1/4 cups water
about 1/4 cup rice vinegar
2 tablespoons sugar
1 teaspoon of kosher salt
Plenty of smoked salmon
FRIED BACON

oh, and nori sheets.

Toro might be even better than the salmon.

Willravel · 10-30-2007, 10:36 AM

I only used it because it's something more universal. Frankly, I'd like the salmon raw and I'd like some calamari with it. Calamari + bacon = joy.

snowy · 10-30-2007, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo

Toro might be even better than the salmon.

Yes, I think toro would be a good counterpoint to the bacon.

Ustwo, I must be one of those few women who enjoys a rare steak. Yum.

My first thought when I think of raw food is: Oooh, steak tartare! Beef carpaccio! Tuna carpaccio! How many ways can I make carpaccio? I'm sure I'd find out quickly if I went on a raw food diet.

Give me meat.

Leto · 10-30-2007, 12:30 PM

except that will is using smoked salmon, a twist to sushi that I had never entertained. smoked Toro is something that I have never heard of...

Baraka_Guru · 10-30-2007, 03:19 PM

My own solution to the smoked salmon/bacon thing is just to use fried salmon skin.

Ustwo · 10-30-2007, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by onesnowyowl

Give me meat.

I love when a woman says that to me.

World's King · 10-30-2007, 04:21 PM

Vegan = Eating disorder.

Raw food = Lazy.

Plan9 · 10-30-2007, 05:59 PM

Hahaha...

This thread feels like a bunch of guys sitting around a campfire. Grunting and drinking shitty beer.

Baraka_Guru · 10-30-2007, 06:33 PM

Break out the beer-can chicken. So much for raw food.

But, seriously, if we as North Americans knew more about food and nutrition, or if we actually cared, the average diet would include more of the typical raw food things you see. Salads, sprouts, seeds, nuts, raw veggies. Most people stop at a side of french fries and a leaf of iceburg lettuce for the burger.

Plan9 · 10-30-2007, 06:42 PM

(salutes the TFP)

A fortress for the nutritionally knowledgeable.

I eat a lot of raw stuff, myself. I just don't see the "give up other stuff" point.

Why? Why can't I eat it all? I don't discriminate on food. I'm eating it all! You see me eating it all? Oh-YEAH!

...

Oh, and one more point:

Vagina: The original raw food.

Baraka_Guru · 10-30-2007, 07:01 PM

Yeah, I like it too. But I usually add meat to it.

Ustwo · 10-30-2007, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

Break out the beer-can chicken. So much for raw food.

But, seriously, if we as North Americans knew more about food and nutrition, or if we actually cared, the average diet would include more of the typical raw food things you see. Salads, sprouts, seeds, nuts, raw veggies. Most people stop at a side of french fries and a leaf of iceburg lettuce for the burger.

Americans don't know shit about diet, but either does anyone else.

The Chinese are eating species to extinction thinking they will cure diseases and make their penises hard.

The Japanese have lower heart disease and higher rates of stomach cancer and can't survive without whale meat.

The Germans eat a lot of things with their sausage.

The scotts think a mars bar is best deep fried.

The English not only eat shitty tasting food, they eat shitty tasting fatty food.

The French think that stuffing a live goose until it almost explodes and eating its liver is the highest of cuisine.

The Ethiopians, well I don't know what they think but man their food is awful.

The Mexicans..... mmmm well I don't have a lot of bad things to say about mexican food, but it does get a tad monotonous.

But anyways bad dietary habits seem to be a universal. Americans are fat bastards, but right now Europe is blimping up too, and I expect the trend to spread to nations as wealth expands.

Baraka_Guru · 10-30-2007, 07:32 PM

Wow, and I thought I was speaking generally. Thanks for your...uh

... analysis?

It was funny though. You would have taken the cake if you mentioned that Kiwis eat their hamburgers topped with a fried egg and a slice of beet.

Plan9 · 10-30-2007, 07:36 PM

Yeah, I was gonna make a crack about how Ethiopians are on a raw food diet... any bug that flies into their mouth is fair game.

...

Nuts/berries and fruits/vegetables are easy raw food combos. Healthy people chomp them all the time.

Ustwo · 10-30-2007, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baraka_Guru

Wow, and I thought I was speaking generally. Thanks for your...uh

... analysis?

It was funny though. You would have taken the cake if you mentioned that Kiwis eat their hamburgers topped with a fried egg and a slice of beet.

Actually I was trying to be mostly funny

And while a beet sounds disgusting I have had fried eggs on a burger, and I'm ashamed to say it was quite nice.

stevie667 · 10-31-2007, 02:03 AM

I'm going to COOK make some bacon, right now.

Plan9 · 10-31-2007, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ustwo

Actually I was trying to be mostly funny

Yeah, you couldn't find anything wrong with the aftereffects of Mexican food...

How about the har-har joke about using an entire roll of toilet paper a couple of hours after eating your meal?

...

This thread makes me think of college chicks eating rice cakes and using the Stairmaster.

thingstodo · 11-02-2007, 03:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soma

I do the whole food diet.
I guess I eat raw food, but definitely not all raw.

I with you there. I still eat a little meat but nothing like before. Whole grains are at the very top of my list along with whatever fruits and veggies are in season. About the time I start getting tired of something the season changes!

10-29-2007, 03:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
ChrisJericho eat more fruit Location: Seattle	Looks good, on the whole. It really should say rawVEGANfor30days though. Why not have some raw eggs and meat included? I do especially agree with the point regarding how in general we as a society are much more inclined to pop pills than eat more broccoli. __________________ "A casual stroll through the lunatic asylum shows us that faith proves nothing." - Friedrich Nietzsche

10-29-2007, 03:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	One of the guys associated with this film is David Wolfe, who is a well-known raw food vegan. There are health issues with raw foods when it comes to dairy, eggs, and meat, so they are generally left out. I think a purely raw food diet is too restrictive, but there certainly are benefits to certain raw foods. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

10-29-2007, 04:16 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Mmmmm sushi........ Vegans can't be right, because sushi = perfection. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

10-29-2007, 04:19 PM	#5 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Come on, vegan futomaki ain't bad.... __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

10-29-2007, 04:50 PM	#8 (permalink)
soma Addict Location: USA	I do the whole food diet. I guess I eat raw food, but definitely not all raw. __________________ Having Girl Problems?

10-29-2007, 10:58 PM	#10 (permalink)
newtx Addict	This would be really tough on the Atkins plan.

10-30-2007, 02:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	I'm going to wrap a vegetarian with bacon and cook them up. ... Insane diets... the new black. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

10-30-2007, 03:04 AM	#12 (permalink)
Leto Junkie Location: The Danforth	steak Tartar. mmmmm my favourite restaraunt meal. too bad it isn't included.

10-30-2007, 06:09 AM	#14 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	(crams almonds, bananas, and lima beans into tuna steak sushi) BEHOLD! The perfect raw food! __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

10-30-2007, 06:16 AM	#16 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	Please remind me to stay away from the person who is going to ruin perfectly good bacon with disgusting sushi....ugh makes me wanna barf just thinking about it __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

10-30-2007, 08:56 AM	#17 (permalink)
Leto Junkie Location: The Danforth	hmmm.. I have to disagree. I love bacon, and I love sushi... together they sound perfect! perhaps sashimi instead?

10-30-2007, 09:34 AM	#19 (permalink)
ShaniFaye Submit to me, you know you want to Location: Lilburn, Ga	because I can fathom the depth and perfection of bacon? That should count for something __________________ *I want the diabetic plan that comes with rollover carbs. I dont like the unused one expiring at midnite!!*

10-30-2007, 10:02 AM	#21 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	2 cups Sushi rice 2 and 1/4 cups water about 1/4 cup rice vinegar 2 tablespoons sugar 1 teaspoon of kosher salt Plenty of smoked salmon FRIED BACON oh, and nori sheets.

10-30-2007, 10:36 AM	#23 (permalink)
Willravel ... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.	I only used it because it's something more universal. Frankly, I'd like the salmon raw and I'd like some calamari with it. Calamari + bacon = joy.

10-30-2007, 12:30 PM	#25 (permalink)
Leto Junkie Location: The Danforth	except that will is using smoked salmon, a twist to sushi that I had never entertained. smoked Toro is something that I have never heard of...

10-30-2007, 03:19 PM	#26 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	My own solution to the smoked salmon/bacon thing is just to use fried salmon skin. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

10-30-2007, 04:21 PM	#28 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	Vegan = Eating disorder. Raw food = Lazy. __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown

10-30-2007, 05:59 PM	#29 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Hahaha... This thread feels like a bunch of guys sitting around a campfire. Grunting and drinking shitty beer. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

10-30-2007, 06:33 PM	#30 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Break out the beer-can chicken. So much for raw food. But, seriously, if we as North Americans knew more about food and nutrition, or if we actually cared, the average diet would include more of the typical raw food things you see. Salads, sprouts, seeds, nuts, raw veggies. Most people stop at a side of french fries and a leaf of iceburg lettuce for the burger. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

10-30-2007, 06:42 PM	#31 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	(salutes the TFP) A fortress for the nutritionally knowledgeable. I eat a lot of raw stuff, myself. I just don't see the "give up other stuff" point. Why? Why can't I eat it all? I don't discriminate on food. I'm eating it all! You see me eating it all? Oh-YEAH! ... Oh, and one more point: Vagina: The original raw food. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

10-30-2007, 07:01 PM	#32 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Yeah, I like it too. But I usually add meat to it. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

10-30-2007, 07:32 PM	#34 (permalink)
Baraka_Guru warrior bodhisattva Super Moderator Location: East-central Canada	Wow, and I thought I was speaking generally. Thanks for your...uh ... analysis? It was funny though. You would have taken the cake if you mentioned that Kiwis eat their hamburgers topped with a fried egg and a slice of beet. __________________ Knowing that death is certain and that the time of death is uncertain, what's the most important thing? —Bhikkhuni Pema Chödrön Humankind cannot bear very much reality. —From "Burnt Norton," Four Quartets (1936), T. S. Eliot

10-30-2007, 07:36 PM	#35 (permalink)
Plan9 I Confess a Shiver	Yeah, I was gonna make a crack about how Ethiopians are on a raw food diet... any bug that flies into their mouth is fair game. ... Nuts/berries and fruits/vegetables are easy raw food combos. Healthy people chomp them all the time. __________________ *Whatever you can carry.* "You should not drink... and bake."

10-31-2007, 02:03 AM	#37 (permalink)
stevie667 Too Awesome for Aardvarks Location: Angloland	I'm going to COOK make some bacon, right now. __________________ Office hours have changed. Please call during office hours for more information.