11-06-2006, 01:24 PM | #1 (permalink) |
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What do you live for (and not religion)?
Of late nothing I found fun seems fun anymore. I recently met a great girl but there is still an emptynes like never before. Personally I need to now what people live for. Nothings worse than just existing. And no religion please.
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11-06-2006, 01:49 PM | #3 (permalink) |
Junkie
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I live because I never know if tomorrow will be better than today.
So ... does that mean I live for (or because of) curiosity? I have a wife and daughter but I think there's too much pressure on them for me to say that I live for them. They don't need that kind of responsibility; because that may also make them responsible for my sadness. Does that make sense? No one is responsible for my sadness or my happiness but me. It breaks my heart to think that I might not be there for them ... so it's certainly a factor. I do devote my life to them, but that's completely different than saying I live "for" them. Sometimes (like just the past few days) I feel completely empty inside; but I've lived long enough to know that the emptiness is only temporary. |
11-06-2006, 02:17 PM | #4 (permalink) |
has all her shots.
Location: Florida
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I live for music and films and all the great books I haven't read yet. I live to enjoy time with my kids and family and friends...and sometimes not to enjoy it (and that's okay, too!). I live to experience everything that is ahead of me - good, bad or indifferent.
I know the feeling you speak of though, cacti, and experience sometimes seems very flat and meaningless. But this apathetic feeling usually passes. Try not to put too much emphasis on it or try to make yourself come out of it because you will never succeed. Let it be, treat yourself and allow it to pass. It is completely normal.
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Most people go through life dreading they'll have a traumatic experience. Freaks were born with their trauma. They've already passed their test in life. They're aristocrats. - Diane Arbus PESSIMISM, n. A philosophy forced upon the convictions of the observer by the disheartening prevalence of the optimist with his scarecrow hope and his unsightly smile. - Ambrose Bierce |
11-06-2006, 02:34 PM | #5 (permalink) |
Lover - Protector - Teacher
Location: Seattle, WA
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I live for people. Not for certain people, but for people in general. Every day that I get to see a person I know, don't know, or will soon know, I'm happy. I enjoy conversation and I love the interesting pyschology of each person. Everyone has some little quirk that I wonder about.
Even a forum like this. Now I'm living to find out what makes you and everyone else tick.
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11-06-2006, 05:11 PM | #6 (permalink) |
Sauce Puppet
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mixedmedia already said it, but I live for the experience. Every day it's "what new adventure will I go through today". Sometimes it's trekking miles through feet of snow to enjoy a beautiful view. Sometimes it's sleeping in, only to get out of bed and read a few chapters in a book. Everyday offers something new to experience.
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11-06-2006, 07:18 PM | #9 (permalink) |
Location: Iceland
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I live because I am lucky enough to wake up alive each morning. Watch someone you love die, slowly, day by day... or even suddenly, without a moment's notice... for me, it has always been enough to know what they were missing, or what they would have regretted about ending their lives, if they could have told me. Life is just too goddamn precious to take for granted, no matter how crappy it may feel from moment to moment. The moments pass. As mixedmedia said, that IS life sometimes... the flux from up to down and back again... and just sitting it out, living it as it is.
On a related note, for me it's kinda like that saying "Even the worst day fishing is better than the best day at the office." Not that I'm a fisherman... but I also live because even the worst day alive for me, middle class and educated, is better than being alive but destitute and scraping by for one's existence, with no hope for a better future. Even on the absolute shittiest days, I know that life has got to be worse for most of the people in the world (since much of the world's population lives at or below the poverty line)... and they still manage to get out of bed every day, even just for survival and to provide for their loved ones. I get to be so much more selfish than that, every day. I live because I'm grateful that I am privileged enough to even *think* about these things... that I have time to sit and discuss them with other educated people... and that I have a house and food and plenty of choices in my life. How could I NOT get out of bed in the morning? To commit suicide when I am so lucky to have this life, would be like a big "fuck you" to most of the world... giving up the life that many of them would die (literally, crossing the desert border or shutting themselves in a cargo ship for weeks to cross the ocean) to have.
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11-06-2006, 07:50 PM | #10 (permalink) |
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I didn;t read other people messages.
What i live for, I live because i don't want to be homeless on the streets,i don't want to be the sad guy, i want to always remain positive even on the fucked up days. When it seems like nothing going my way, i'm start smiling because i know in the end , When i'm Frustrated and upset, i know ain't dead, aint dying, just living a daily life. Theres only four things in america I need, family,friends,chicks,work. Without work we would be homeless. without chicks we would be horny bible thumpers(or like our counterpart muslims in the middle-east) . Family to bring you back down to earth and friends to bring you back up. Fuck the rest, the bills, the pain , hurt of getting dumped Because i'm not saying i'm going live forever, i'm just here for a ride & joy. I live because i'm to weak to kill myself and why not live , let's see what happens tomorrow. Stay tuned, My Job is very stressful , but i don't bring that shit home and i live it up when i'm off. |
11-06-2006, 08:05 PM | #11 (permalink) |
... a sort of licensed troubleshooter.
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- Waking up next to someone truely wonderful.
- Seeing the smile of my child. - Playing a sonata from start to finish, and knowing it well enough to really enjoy it. - Listening to my iPod and exercising. - Roasting a conservative with some good old liberal logic. - Watching Battlestar, and being able to break it down with all my friends. - Getting a 24 speed bike up to 55 mph on the way to work. - Voting. - Setting up a brand new entertainment center and watching something like the Matrix, Star Wars, or Gladiator to test it out. - Composing a piece of music that other people enjoy. - Reading a wonderful science fiction book like Dune or the Andromeda Strain in my big chair with some tea. |
11-06-2006, 08:43 PM | #12 (permalink) |
Crazy
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I live for my kids. they need a mom. I live for my husband, he needs me. I live for all the fun things that I want to do with them all. I live for me. I want to see my children grow and fall in love and get their hearts broken and then fall in love again and not get their hearts broken, I want to see my grandchildren that are NOT going to be around for at least another 15 years, hopefully.
I live because even when it is really really bad, even when I was sitting there watching my mother die, even when the absolute worst things that have ever happened to me were happening, it stopped at some point. It got better, eventually, sometmes a very long eventually. I have had wonderful moments, and I have had horrible moments. The good moments were worth the cost of the bad. It is normal to get that autopilot feeling, like theres not much going on in the emotion area. It is normal to sometimes feel like even getting angry is too much work. It is not normal to feel like there is no reason to live, that might be more serious than a bunch of strangers can deal with. You might consider some professional help if thats where you're at. |
11-06-2006, 09:20 PM | #14 (permalink) |
Industrialist
Location: Southern California
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I live for myself.
Once I made that break through - things are a lot better all around. Even my relationships with those who society says I am "supposed" to be living for instead (wife, kid, beggar on the street, etc.) is far more fruitful when I am honest with things like this. Try it on. I suspect that lots of people feel empty when they have to pretend they are excited about living for others.
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11-06-2006, 10:07 PM | #16 (permalink) |
Lover - Protector - Teacher
Location: Seattle, WA
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I also failed to mention that I live for my dead friend, the motherfucker.
The piece of shit, prime of his life, 23, decides to off himself. How senseless is that? If theres anything I got from that, it's that I'm still alive. Why the hell should I waste it? Why should anyone waste it? You've got thousands of years for heaven, or rotting, if thats how you see it. Don't waste the 100 or less you get on Earth.
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"I'm typing on a computer of science, which is being sent by science wires to a little science server where you can access it. I'm not typing on a computer of philosophy or religion or whatever other thing you think can be used to understand the universe because they're a poor substitute in the role of understanding the universe which exists independent from ourselves." - Willravel |
11-07-2006, 03:29 AM | #17 (permalink) |
Upright
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If you feel like going through hell and back, and ending up higher up than where you started, you might like to look up "existential despair."
But honestly, theres alot of things to live for besides religion. I don't even think people live for religion very well, but thats just my own opinion. The thing is, it works for some people and not others... I myself believe it comes down to your own happiness. And thanks to civilization, society, you also have a debt to other people and leaving this place better than you found it. (unless you like being self sufficient...). I find this in conflict with my own wants alot, I don't want to support society in it's current form because at least where I'm at... I feel like it needs to be tore down and rebuilt. But right now theres not much of a choice, alot of people say I'm in the prime of my life which oddly means I have to play by other's rules. I don't see things ending well. You know why I keep on going? Because I have been wrong before, and I hope to be wrong again. Because I can better myself from it. It's a struggle to the heights, and I don't care if I end up at perfect or not. All I care is when time comes, I can look at whoever or noone, and say "I don't believe you could have done better yourself." |
11-07-2006, 09:31 AM | #18 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: on my spinning computer chair
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I feel I would make the world a better place one day. And if I don't I will try to make it so.
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11-07-2006, 01:59 PM | #21 (permalink) |
Unbelievable
Location: Grants Pass OR
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I live because I have too much to do before I can die. Like watch my children graduate high school, walk my daughter down the aisle at her wedding, have a beer w/ my son on his 21st birthday, play with my grandkids, catch the perfect wave and get that perfect ride, jump out of a plane, pilot a plane, watch the sunrise over the Atlantic (I've enjoyed many sunsets over the Pacific), catch a blue marlin, lear to scuba dive, go 200 mph in a car, see the country from a motorcycle, sail the west coast, shower under a waterfall....I could go on forever.
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11-07-2006, 11:53 PM | #23 (permalink) |
Artist of Life
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I live for three things:
1) Each moment. Sounds cheesy (and don't get me wrong, I like cheese) but its true. Every moment I have is important to me. 2) Nature. 3) Hope. This one is by far the hardest to grasp. For me, its constantly in a middle ground wherein it could slip away or stay. This one is driving me insane, but I'm certain it is entirely necissary never to let go of it. Funny that it takes hope to not lose hope. I recommend you try this one, but don't forget to read the warning label. Perhaps you can make better use of it than I. |
11-08-2006, 08:54 AM | #24 (permalink) |
Junkie
Location: LI,NY
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I have been thinking of this for days. I am having a difficult time coming up with the right words for my reply, but here it goes.
I don't do anything to purposely hurt/kill myself for my children. I do things as carefully as I can, so I don't get hurt. They are my driving force to stay alive. I live so I can learn new things every day and, in return, teach as much of this as I can to my children. Every day is a new day, a new experience, and a new chance to learn.
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11-08-2006, 10:50 AM | #26 (permalink) |
Boy am I horny today
Location: T O L E D O, Toledo!!
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I've been thinking about this...
As a man, I live to provide for my family (and that is sooooo fun) I live to love my wife, children, family I live for the greatest sexual experience ever...Or at least each experience I live to hear music, play golf, cook and drink, not in that order I live because I am. |
11-08-2006, 12:36 PM | #27 (permalink) |
Misanthropic
Location: Ohio! yay!
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You are not alone in trying to find out the meaning of it all. We all ask ourselves the same question at some point. What does it mean, why am I here, is it really worth it? Would it really matter if I was gone?
In the grand scheme of things, no, it most likely won't matter, but who cares about grand schemes anyways? Live to spite your enemies, Live for the sake of your friends and family, live for passion and laughter, and lust and love. I try to go on because I want to know what will happen tomorrow. Think back to all your yesterdays, and remember how crazy some of them were, today might be just as crazy. You might win the lottery, save a baby from a burning house, fall in love at first sight, go to work (or school) then come home and sleep til you have to go back the next day. It's not all pain, and harm, don't sweat the small stuff, let the bad things slide. Worrying for worry's sake will just stress you and and make you depressed. Know that everything will work out if you live everyday as best you can. If that isn't something to live for, then take drugs.
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11-08-2006, 04:25 PM | #29 (permalink) | |
Fancy
Location: Chicago
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Anyway, finding what you live for is a personal thing. Many people can list the same reasons for living, but they view it differently. You have to really believe in what you are living for. Some people living to love their family may have dependency and bring unhappiness to themselves by staying in a bad situation. Some people living for themselves may be greedy and unsocial leading them down a misreable path. I think people have to have their own reason for getting out of bed in the morning. Personally, I get out of bed because the bed isn't comfortable after I wake up. Why I stay alive each day? I still wonder about that. Maybe fear of missing something once I'm dead. Maybe because it would be a hassle on others if I died. That's a morbid view on why I'm alive, but it's part of the truth. I guess the 'happy' reason I stay alive from day to day is because I'm curious where my life will take me. I see life as a challenge and I'm not a quitter. I think everyone has times when they stop and take stock in their life. They find the same reasons or new reasons to keep on going. Right now, I'm taking stock and realizing that I wasted a lot of years being depressed. I'm not going to die and have people say "What an unhappy woman she was. Poor thing." It's a hard journey to be 'happy' because my happy isn't the jumping up and down and screaming happy. My happy is more contentment so I feel at peace and comfortable. So people think I'm bored or unhappy even when I'm not. Which brings in the 'Live for yourself' motto. Life is what you make of it, figure out what you want and go for it! There will be bad days and good days, but in the end what matters are your memories and the impact you made on someon's life. So attempt to make at least one memory or impact a day and hope for the best. Hold on because life isn't smooth and the bumps make it less boring.
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11-08-2006, 06:25 PM | #31 (permalink) |
I'm not a blonde! I'm knot! I'm knot! I'm knot!
Location: Upper Michigan
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A year ago I'd have said - children. My heart has been to work with children for the past 20 years and that's all I've done. I can't do that anymore. I'm wore out. The kids are becoming a job and not much more. I still find some joy in them but I don't feel the elation or the sense of accomplishment after a day with them that I once felt. I'm tired. Tired of life and stuggle right now. Yet I'm not ready to give up. I guess I live for me at the root of it all. I know there's more for me to enjoy, do, learn, and make a difference in this world yet. What it is? I do not know right now.
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11-10-2006, 03:15 AM | #33 (permalink) |
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I live because life is fun, and is even MORE fun when you involve others and have fun with them. I live to help people. I live because this brain of mine seems to be capable of holding info that will save lives- and if using it to do just that isn't worth living for, what is?
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11-10-2006, 09:01 AM | #34 (permalink) |
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I think this site just saved me a trip to a psychiatrist. Its been great to read all the posts. I live to be a better friend, a better lover, a better sportsman, a better student, a better employee, a better employer, stronger, faster and wiser. And one day I will be the best at something or those around me will believe that I am the best at ...
I live for the day they will ask 'What shall we do now that he is gone?' It starts now! Hit the gym or pick up my guitar and practice, ring up an old friend or relative? I think by the end of this weekend I will have done it all. Wasn't it Brad Pitt in fight club who said that self improvement is like masturbation. Well, masturbation is probably necessary. |
11-10-2006, 01:23 PM | #35 (permalink) |
Wehret Den Anfängen!
Location: Ontario, Canada
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I could be a brain in a vat, the universe inputted into it.
I could be a soul in a constructed universe, the creator testing me. I could be a pattern of falling information, clattering down the hill. I could be the universe itself, waking up, and looking at itself. I could be immortal, quantum mechanically guaranteed to persist. None of the above differs. I am for I am. I live for I live. The end will, or not. If the universe -- everything that is -- consisted of you, a rock to sit on, and a flower to look at -- the only thinking thing that is -- would that not be worth keeping? But, truely, would you be any greater than you are now? Now, how are you not made more wonderful by being in a universe ridiculously more complex? Perspective matters. Once, humans lived next to death at all times. Now we hold it back. But we judge our lives not by absolute standards, but by relative ones. Foolish -- relative judgement means that even if everyone is in heavenly bliss, hell still exists. You have lived at least 10 years. You have not been eaten by any preditors, or laid down by desease. Your life is a massive success by the standards of millions of years of human history. And I bet you have done more than that.
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11-10-2006, 11:17 PM | #37 (permalink) |
Psycho
Location: Boulder Baby!
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I live for to fulfill my curiousity of what will happen tomorrow.
I live cuz (usually) whatever moment I am in happens to be worth living and the ones that are not like that are bound to end soon enough. I live for creating, discovering, rediscovering, and finding peace in everything around me that i have yet to learn or experience.
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11-13-2006, 03:58 PM | #40 (permalink) |
Addict
Location: Pennsylvania, USA
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Masturbation, gambling, booze and driving too fast.
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