Drider_it

starting oct 31 my wife and I had a falling out. She ended up working midnights and I days. we just seemed to never see each other anymore.. tempers flared and such

in the end we temp seperated for a bit. in all this a dude enters the picture. after a ton of drama i find this email..

as for snooping.. yeah i did. i was told i could look in her emails and her in mine... but then i find this

From: "Prof. Dana Richardson, BS/BA, CTM, MS/CIS, Ab.D." <drichard1@hotmail.com>
To: "The Oliviers" <proove_it@hotmail.com>
CC: <drich1@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: No subject- From Dana - Your message...
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:36:56 -0600

Hi Heidi: OK - remember- prayer is very powerful and can help you.

Dana
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Oliviers" <proove_it@hotmail.com>
To: <drichard1@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: No subject- From Dana - Your message...



cuz opi once told me he was a good listener..... that is in the past

timing i meant only this...... if i was further along it would be matts. you know like three mos three and a half months i was just explaining myself about opi's comment.....

he is now sending me these comments thanks for telling dad..... and where did i think it was my place to tell you.... i wasnt causing more drama i needed some one to talk to... im sorry for the more drama.... i see things have only gotten worse.....


From: "Prof. Dana Richardson, BS/BA, CTM, MS/CIS, Ab.D." <drichard1@hotmail.com>
To: "The Oliviers" <proove_it@hotmail.com>
CC: <drich1@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: No subject- From Dana - Your message...
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 14:09:21 -0600

Hi Heidi: Venting is not a problem - glad to let you vent all you want.
Suggestions aren't what you get a pastor to give you - we're really
only good at hearing and praying and then researching sometimes what
the best god fearing course might be. Nothing you are facing is new-
with the possible exception of your current life situation, which makes
it a bit of bummer.
Gary might tell me, might not, who knows with Gary - who knows with
anyone nowdays.
Opi? Why in the world would you go vent to him?
Anyway - not sure about what you mean about the timing being the
proof of Gary being a papa...nowdays that's hardly something we
dispute...ya know...DNA and what not...Anyway...don't get crazy..
do your best to conduct yourself in as responsible a fashion as possible
and remember to pray and to let Jesus guide you.

Dana
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Oliviers" <proove_it@hotmail.com>
To: <drichard1@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: No subject- From Dana - Your message...


im letting you read this in confidence that it is just you....

With Gary being gone so much we dont talk as much or see one another.. TO me that is understandable.. it really is..... I did however tell him that on his days off and when its not the days he has wyatt and sidny that i really think that we should spend some tme together.... that was my only ask about it...

Gary even asked my parents that when my divorce is done with matthew if he could marry me.. OK here it goes......something you needed to hear from Garmister... Im pregnant... ( iknow that dang near everyone in the world knows kimberly and i think debbie* only way it could be anyone elses (matthews) is if im three months or more along.. and im not im seven weeks... gary was delighted over it... As of this am he is talking about moving to the terminal out of misouri and comming in everyother weekend.. said he is tired of the drama... im still trying to figure out the drama except for my pregnancy and he is going every wich direction.... he hasnt eaten in about a week and he never sleeps right.... i cant get him to eat... im really worried....

when i started to talk to opi but when i taked to gary after that the old man had told gary that i said i wasnt sure whom the baby belonged to ..... i was so upset i could have spit nails .... the words never come out of my mouth.. And that I say in the most truthfulness i ahve ever spoke in my life.

i dont think that he is being very rational and i dont think that his eating habbits are helping....
and if at all possible... let gary come to you about my pregnancy.... i just honestly need to vent and i need advice......
Thank you for your time..
Heidi


From: "Prof. Dana Richardson, BS/BA, CTM, MS/CIS, Ab.D." <drichard1@hotmail.com>
To: "The Oliviers" <proove_it@hotmail.com>
CC: <drich1@centurytel.net>
Subject: Re: No subject- From Dana - Your message...
Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2006 13:35:45 -0600

Hi Heidi: Feel free to say whatever you would like via e-mail -
if you'd like to schedule a consult that is a different matter - bear
in mind that I am a pastor- so that is something we would have to
consider from a time perspective. My suggestion is that if this is
something that you really need to get off your chest and it's on a
short tether time wise...you will have more ready success using
the e-mail than trying to schedule a consult. Nearly every hour
of every day that I have is full of stuff to do...

OK - having said that - prayer is also good...Jesus listens better than
any human ever has...and Jesus can do stuff a human cannot.

Dana
----- Original Message ----- From: "The Oliviers" <proove_it@hotmail.com>
To: <drichard1@hotmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2006 1:25 PM


Wow..... Gary is in a really bad mood... It's funny I dont know you that well and it seems to me that when ever something goes wrong that really really upsets me I feel the need to talk to you... I remember a time that ieven asked Gary to ask you what i should do.. Just wanted you to know the impact you have on people.. that is why i was shocked when you told me that you have no patients with kids as far as it being a constant...



can i meet and talk to you..... so much i need to talk to someone about...i started to talk to opi once but i never finished and what i did talk to him about he twisted or heard wrong.... so much drama im tired of it...

Thank you for your time,
Heidi***************



now she says this is all fake but... man i just dont know anymore..

i want to believe her and all but ... can anyone verify if this centrytel email is legit or a fake one? if it is true this gary dudes dad as a pastor is going against his agrement with god to help us seperate.. and his degrees as a councler to make it happen i guess.. I couldnt see a pastor doing this so like i said.. i just dont know.

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Toaster126

What does that mean? She says she didn't write\send the emails? I would love to hear how they got there in her opinion.

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JustJess

I am pretty confused. So what is your situation exactly?
This is what I got:
You're Opi/Matthew (?). The separated wife is Heidi. You separated in October 2005. In that time, she met and started sleeping with Gary, whose dad is a pastor, whom she went to for advice. She's pregnant and she thinks it's Gary's because of how far along she is.

She now says that these emails are fabricated, and you want to know if that's possible.

It's possible to fake emails, yes. But you have to ask... who would fake them, and why? What's the benefit? Did they KNOW you'd find the emails, since you and your wife read each other's email? Plus, the writing styles are pretty different - not everyone can write as if they were someone else believably.

There's far more benefit to your wife if the emails are fakes. It sounds like she's not ready to make any decisions and is trying to postpone it as much as possible.

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Drider_it

this is his wife. we seperated to do physiical abuse in the relationship... i had to get out... i met this person named gary who was my best friend for the longest.... i have been planting paper notes leatters in my purse and using his computer for false emailing for a while now... come now only a retard would use their husbands computer for an affair..... needless to say it does let me know what i have been wondering.... he is grasping at anything to and it shows me he is insecure in the marriage.....and not only that where there is no trust there is no marriage am i not right? ..

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Sultana

WTH?
If you are separated, and planting "fake evidence" around...and you *suspect* he's insecure with the marriage? How can you possibly be surprised anyone in this position would be insecure with a relationship?

It's called entrapment, hello?

Wouldn't it be better to work on a resolution for your relationship?

This is very strange.

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ShaniFaye

I believe last time I checked (about 30 seconds ago) using someone elses account to post here "can" cause that account to be banned.

You would be much better off making your own account and trying to "defend" (if thats really possible) your very strange, to say the least, actions under your own name.

besides according to the OP he had permission to read your emails....so whatever game you're playing is just plain sick IMO.....please keep in mind that my opinion is given on the limited information thats been brought forth

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I'm closing this thread for multiple reasons.

First and foremost, it is strictly against the rules for two people to use the same account to post. Secondly, I've read this thread about 3 times now and it is so lacking in structure and grammar it's simply not worth it. It is utterly incomprehensible.

The closing of this thread is NOT to say the topic can't or shouldn't be discussed here. It IS to say that you (the thread starter) should put more than 15 seconds into starting the thread and make an attempt to make the pasted e-mails readable and distinguishable. This means you should clearly separate each e-mail so that we know where each ends and begins and also place them in chronological order. You should also let us know who the characters in the e-mails are BEFORE pasting them for us to read.

As for your wife, she should create her own account if she would like to provide direct input to the thread. If she does not wish to do this for some reason, the most you can do is tell us what she says in the third person. DO NOT share the account.

This thread is closed. Feel free to create a new thread on the topic (and place it in Tilted Sexuality since that is the place for non-platonic relationship advice), but put more effort into it. If you expect people to help you - and there are many people here willing to give input - you need to make it easy for them to do so.

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