Best verbal comback since Churchill. Rumsfeld vs Kennedy - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

JBX · 03-09-2004, 06:28 AM

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Rumsfeld: Kennedy 'All Wet' About Bush Lies
(2004-02-05) -- Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld told Sen. Edward M. Kennedy yesterday that he was "all wet" when the Senator alleged that the Bush administration lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction to justify going to war.

The verbal clash came during Mr. Rumsfeld's testimony at a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing probing the state of pre-war intelligence.

Sen. Kennedy began his questioning of the Defense Secretary by saying, "Don't you think some members of the Bush administration should be held legally accountable for the lies they told about Iraqi weapons, and the subsequent cover-up?"

"First, with all due respect Senator Kennedy, you're all wet," said Mr. Rumsfeld. "The administration has not lied or covered up. However, in general, I do believe that when a man commits a crime he should face the bar of justice. He should not be allowed to serve in positions of power in our government, and be hailed as a leader, when the question of his guilt remains unresolved, if you know what I mean."

"I'm sure I do not know what you mean," Mr. Kennedy said. "But the American people deserve to know why you can't find Saddam's weapons of mass destruction."

"Sometimes things are hard to find, even when you know where they are," said Mr. Rumsfeld. "For example, I've heard of a man who missed a bridge and drove his car into the water, even though he knew where the bridge was. And then sometimes you just keep diving into a problem and despite repeated efforts, you come up empty handed. That doesn't mean that nothing's there. As you know, eventually, the truth comes to light."

Having no further questions, Mr. Kennedy yielded the remainder of his time.

I just love a snappy comeback!

Sparhawk · 03-09-2004, 06:53 AM

Yes, the Senate Armed Services Committee, or as we've come to know it, the High School Cafeteria.

Bookman · 03-09-2004, 06:57 AM

I think that was weak. There is a soap box or moral high road being taken by Rummy here that is not fair at all.

onetime2 · 03-09-2004, 06:57 AM

Kadath · 03-09-2004, 07:49 AM

There's a Dilbert cartoon where the office workers realize they can say whatever they want to the boss so long as they preface it with "With all due respect." For example, "With all due respect, is that your face or is a monkey climbing down your collar?"

I do like the fact that Rumsfeld counterattacked as a means of avoiding the question. "Donald, are you guys lying about the war?" "Shut up Ted, you killed that girl!"

Mr. Mojo · 03-09-2004, 08:29 AM

as much as i want it to be true, its just a email myth...

<a target=new href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kennedy.asp">Claim: Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld delivered a stinging rebuke to Senator Ted Kennedy during a Senate committee meeting.

Status: False - -- -- - - - -LINK</a>

Ustwo · 03-09-2004, 08:31 AM

Somewhat saddly, unlike Kennedy, Rumsfeld has class.

If only they would say that and shut that disgusting windbag up.

pan6467 · 03-09-2004, 08:40 AM

Namecalling and no debate of facts. Why am I not surprised.

Ustwo · 03-09-2004, 08:49 AM

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Originally posted by pan6467
Namecalling and no debate of facts. Why am I not surprised.

Facts have never bothered Kennedy, but you do know the above story is a myth right?

prb · 03-09-2004, 10:22 AM

Searching for weapons of mass destruction takes time. Sorta like searching for records of GWB"s National Guard duty in Alabama.
Give it time.

Lebell · 03-09-2004, 11:12 AM

Looks like humor to me.

Moved there per forum rules.

Iliftrocks · 03-11-2004, 09:33 AM

It was weak, and the sumbitch still didn't answer the question, as usual. Smoke and mirrors

aarchaon · 03-19-2004, 04:20 AM

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Originally posted by pan6467
Namecalling and no debate of facts. Why am I not surprised.

Politicians are like that in every country.

teseniarkc · 03-20-2004, 05:47 AM

Rumsfeld sure does know how to get his point across though.

shakran · 03-20-2004, 07:14 AM

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Originally posted by Ustwo
Somewhat saddly, unlike Kennedy, Rumsfeld has class.

mmm. Real classy to be eagerly behind the orders that caused the death and permanent disabling of thousands of people, including US soldiers. who did not need to get shot. Very classy to continually change your story, yet maintain that your current story is what you've said all along. Even classier to baldfaced lie in just about every press conference, interview, and speech. And the ultimate in class is to be flippant and sarcastic when answering questions about all the death that he caused.

Yup, the man exudes class.

Blackthorn · 03-20-2004, 09:01 AM

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Originally posted by pan6467
Namecalling and no debate of facts. Why am I not surprised.

Oh come on now!! Why let facts get in the way of your opinions

03-09-2004, 06:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	Yes, the Senate Armed Services Committee, or as we've come to know it, the High School Cafeteria. __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."

03-09-2004, 06:57 AM	#4 (permalink)
onetime2 Junkie Location: NJ	LOL. __________________ Strive to be more curious than ignorant.

03-09-2004, 07:49 AM	#5 (permalink)
Kadath Muffled Location: Camazotz	There's a Dilbert cartoon where the office workers realize they can say whatever they want to the boss so long as they preface it with "With all due respect." For example, "With all due respect, is that your face or is a monkey climbing down your collar?" I do like the fact that Rumsfeld counterattacked as a means of avoiding the question. "Donald, are you guys lying about the war?" "Shut up Ted, you killed that girl!" __________________ it's quiet in here

03-09-2004, 08:29 AM	#6 (permalink)
Mr. Mojo Addict Location: NYC	as much as i want it to be true, its just a email myth... <a target=new href="http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/kennedy.asp">Claim: Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld delivered a stinging rebuke to Senator Ted Kennedy during a Senate committee meeting. Status: False - -- -- - - - -LINK</a> __________________ When I jerk off I feel good for about twenty seconds and then WHAM it's right back into suicidal depression

03-09-2004, 08:31 AM	#7 (permalink)
Ustwo Pissing in the cornflakes	Somewhat saddly, unlike Kennedy, Rumsfeld has class. If only they would say that and shut that disgusting windbag up. __________________ Agents of the enemies who hold office in our own government, who attempt to eliminate our "freedoms" and our "right to know" are posting among us, I fear.....on this very forum. - host Obama - Know a Man by the friends he keeps.

03-09-2004, 06:57 AM	#3 (permalink)
Bookman Insane	I think that was weak. There is a soap box or moral high road being taken by Rummy here that is not fair at all.

03-09-2004, 08:40 AM	#8 (permalink)
pan6467 Lennonite Priest Location: Mansfield, Ohio USA	Namecalling and no debate of facts. Why am I not surprised. __________________ I just love people who use the excuse "I use/do this because I LOVE the feeling/joy/happiness it brings me" and expect you to be ok with that as you watch them destroy their life blindly following. My response is, "I like to put forks in an eletrical socket, just LOVE that feeling, can't ever get enough of it, so will you let me put this copper fork in that electric socket?"

03-09-2004, 10:22 AM	#10 (permalink)
prb Psycho	Searching for weapons of mass destruction takes time. Sorta like searching for records of GWB"s National Guard duty in Alabama. Give it time.

03-09-2004, 11:12 AM	#11 (permalink)
Lebell Cracking the Whip Location: Sexymama's arms...	Looks like humor to me. Moved there per forum rules. __________________ "Of all tyrannies, a tyranny exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end, for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." – C. S. Lewis The ONLY sponsors we have are YOU! Please Donate!

03-11-2004, 09:33 AM	#12 (permalink)
Iliftrocks Junkie Location: Near Raleigh, NC	It was weak, and the sumbitch still didn't answer the question, as usual. Smoke and mirrors __________________ bill hicks - "I don't mean to sound bitter, cold, or cruel, but I am, so that's how it comes out."

03-20-2004, 05:47 AM	#14 (permalink)
teseniarkc Tilted	Rumsfeld sure does know how to get his point across though.