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Old 09-23-2005, 02:07 AM   #81 (permalink)
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Old 09-23-2005, 03:34 AM   #82 (permalink)
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I doubt you can play the new controller like the old ones by turning it on its side.
Look at where the infrared port is. On the end, where your hand would be.
It would be covered up if you held it old-school style.

Also, if you were meant to hold the controller sideways, wouldn't the text under the buttons for "a" and "b" be turned sideways, as well?

It's a good thing they're using RF frequency then isn't it?

And i doubt it would be that hard to figure out which button was which when playing old-skool-stylee.
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Old 09-23-2005, 04:33 AM   #83 (permalink)
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It's a good thing they're using RF frequency then isn't it?
The controller uses Blue tooth.
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Old 09-23-2005, 04:47 AM   #84 (permalink)
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The controller uses Blue tooth.
That's the PS3 controller AFAIK, it's working the same way as the Wavebird did.
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Old 09-23-2005, 02:32 PM   #85 (permalink)
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It's a good thing they're using RF frequency then isn't it?

And i doubt it would be that hard to figure out which button was which when playing old-skool-stylee.
Well that's good news then isn't it, stevie667?
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Old 09-24-2005, 03:07 AM   #86 (permalink)
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But you see people, Nintendo undoubtly has the next generation in the bag. Not because of their new spec's we've found out about. Not about the other system's weaknesses. Not even because of their new controller and kick ass design.

It's because they have you talking about it. Undoubtedly, Nintendo has intrigued you all, and whether you like it or hate it, you already know about it. You've looked at the new controller. You've seen the specs. You've seen the battles that have gone on. But you know what their about.

So, ladies and gentlemen, Nintendo has truly won this generation.

(p.s. xbox 360 becoming a media centre is dumb. If I want a media centre, I buy one. one that actually works.)
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Old 09-24-2005, 04:37 AM   #87 (permalink)
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But you see people, Nintendo undoubtly has the next generation in the bag. Not because of their new spec's we've found out about. Not about the other system's weaknesses. Not even because of their new controller and kick ass design.

It's because they have you talking about it. Undoubtedly, Nintendo has intrigued you all, and whether you like it or hate it, you already know about it. You've looked at the new controller. You've seen the specs. You've seen the battles that have gone on. But you know what their about.

So, ladies and gentlemen, Nintendo has truly won this generation.

(p.s. xbox 360 becoming a media centre is dumb. If I want a media centre, I buy one. one that actually works.)
I think Nintendo will win next gen because the Revolution (or whatever it will be called come next year) will be geared towards all of those gamers who used to play NES back in the day, but have gotten away from games.

AND because of the price point. The revolution will be so much cheaper than the other 2 machines that some XBox 360 owners and PS3 owners will actually buy a second console.
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:34 AM   #88 (permalink)
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The revolution will be so much cheaper than the other 2 machines that some XBox 360 owners and PS3 owners will actually buy a second console.
You say that like it's a rare thing You can do better than by going what the internet majority does, I have two consoles, most of my buddies have two consoles, for the price of a couple of games you get a whole different experience.
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Old 09-24-2005, 06:54 AM   #89 (permalink)
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Old 09-24-2005, 09:44 AM   #90 (permalink)
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Just buy all three consoles and you won't turn into a fanboy afflicted with constant spurts of cognitive dissonance. You have the option of playing the best of games and don't have to keep trying to prove that you bought the best system (even though the only reason you're trying to prove your system is because you didn't want to spend the money on the rest...).

As for general next-gen console talk, all I'll say is that Sony made videogames mainstream and cool with the PlayStation, and gamers are never going to forget that.

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Old 09-24-2005, 05:34 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Just buy all three consoles and you won't turn into a fanboy afflicted with constant spurts of cognitive dissonance. You have the option of playing the best of games and don't have to keep trying to prove that you bought the best system (even though the only reason you're trying to prove your system is because you didn't want to spend the money on the rest...).

As for general next-gen console talk, all I'll say is that Sony made videogames mainstream and cool with the PlayStation, and gamers are never going to forget that.

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Words of truth! Thing is, consoles are like sports teams. You can tell people to just enjoy the damn game, but they always want a favourite. I don't think the 360 will earn much more of the market by being released so early, there's still plenty of life left in this generation. And when their plans to counter the PS3 consists of Halo 3, well...

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Old 09-25-2005, 02:21 AM   #92 (permalink)
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Well that's good news then isn't it, stevie667?
Darn Tootin'

I've got plenty of friends who will have x-box's and ps3's i can play on, so if i want to play something like perfect dark zero, it's not hard to ring someone up.

However, i'll be the only one with a Revolution, so i'll be the one with the nifty controllers *evil laugh*

That made no sense, my apologies, i am hungover.

I will be interested to see how the christmas market fares with the x-box. It's got a hefty price tag, so maybe parents will be buying their kids handheld consoles more so than normal?
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Old 09-26-2005, 12:42 PM   #93 (permalink)
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For those interested here's an article at Arstechnica.com about the Revolution

It's all speculation from some guy name "Han Solo" over at the G4 forums, but like the article points out this fellow was dead on the XBox 360 specs. I try to avoid putting stuff like this up because I haven't verified any of the particulars of the story and, even if I did, it's all still speculation. So, take it all with a big-ass bit of salt, right?

I don't expect anything to come of this, but it's something to mull over until the 360 makes it's debut in late November.

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You've all seen the curious Nintendo Revolution controller, but what about the Revolution console itself? No official information has been released, and we don't really expect to see it soon, but it's Friday, so a little rumor-mongering is in order.

A Factor 5 employee who goes by the name "Han Solo" claims to know the Revolution's specs, and has leaked them (middle of page 3). Why listen to some guy trapped in 1977? Seņor Solo, as I'm sure he's known to his Spanish-speaking friends, proved worth listening to when he nearly nailed the Xbox 360 stats before the official details came out. That said, we can't treat this as reliable information, but it may prove to be good fodder for a Friday evening console war. Or maybe, just maybe, Nintento and Sony fans will join hands and sing songs about the merits of a market with more than one player.

If you're the kind of person who hates rumors, then... why are you still reading? OK, with that out of the way, here we go.

The brains of the console are rumored to be a single dual-threaded IBM "custom" PowerPC 2.5 GHz CPU, with 256 KB L1 cache and 1 MB of L2 cache (L3 cache is rumored). The system will also sport a Physical Processing Chip (PPU) with 32MB of dedicated RAM, while the CPU itself will saddled up next to 512MB of system RAM. The custom ATI GPU solution is rumored to consist of a RN520 600MHz core, backed with 256MB of RAM and "32 parallel floating-point dynamically scheduled shader pipelines." While the output will theoretically be capable of putting out 1080p resolution (higher even, at 2048x1268), Solo says that HD support has not yet been decided (which fits with Nintendo's own comments).

I'm not particularly inclined to deeply assess how such a configuration would stack up to the Xbox 360 or the PS3, but Solo wrote that he thinks it "would be on par with Xbox360, though PS3 could have an edge in the CPU area. In the GPU area the Revolution beats PS3, and technically would match Xbox 360."

Nintendo may have the right idea. As publishers demand more and more games go cross-platform, a single-core system that's easy on developers may be the best way to ensure plenty of cross-platform support, without burning too much money on console architecture that may only be used for exclusive games. While we expect to see exclusive titles for both the Xbox 360 and the PS3, most titles will be cross-platform, and will not necessarily take advantage of the multi-core optimizations for the Xbox 360, or Sony's Cell architecture. Keep in mind that Gabe Newell recently said that the Xbox's CPU performs like a 1.7GHz P3 on unoptimized code.

Perhaps I was preparing myself for a letdown, or something truly abysmal, but these specs don't look too shabby to me. Of course, specs alone can't define how fun a console is or how developer-friendly the various tools will be. However, for a company that seems to really want to downplay polygon counts as a way to measure a console, these specs aren't exactly anything to apologize for.

Hannibal has a few things to say with regards to the assessment made by Solo, so stop by Carthage, part of our new Staff.Ars section, for additional comments later today.
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Old 09-26-2005, 01:16 PM   #94 (permalink)
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