I should rephrase my position. I don't mind that it doesn't have a single player campaign. I can live with that. But I DO want more game modes and alot more maps. Perhaps I'm spoiled, or perhaps this simply isn't my genre, who knows?

While I do have problems with the game, I think that the game that is there is great. I'm having tons of fun playing it.

The demo has a single player mode with bots, doesn't the full version have one?

Online play is fun but it would be nice to have some sort of way to test abilities and group players as such. One thing that always turned me off to playing Quake 3: Arena was that I'd get railed so damn fast. Maybe if I get this early I can be on a more level playing field.

Yes, there is a single player "bot match" version. That's what I played before going online as well, and still got railed :). But it's still fun, even when you suck at it.

To people who have played the demo and the full version: how much more does the full version offer? To be honest, I have so much fun driving around dukes of hazzard style in the demo, I don't know what more the full vers has to offer.

The full version has more maps, and the ability to drive/fly more vehicles. It also has a ranking system where you can earn different rewards based on your rank, but I've yet to be able to get into a ranked game.

I think I'll get this game. It's pretty fun and I like blowing up tanks with the rocket launcher. I also like the special ops kit.

How much do commands and teamwork come into play online? Is it really necessary?

I do see a lot of potential problems with snipers being campers though.

Commands and teamwork are huge online. As far as snipers being campers, it's not as bad as camping vehicles. A sniper can be counter-sniped relatively easily, blown up, or whatever. If you've got some clown with a tank (ie. me) at a spawn point, it can take quite some time to clear them out.

I've also never been able to get in a game. That was one of the reasons I bought BF2, although I still love it.

Commander/Squad combat is a huge part of online. If your squad has a headset it's even better, but the in-game command menu if just fine if not. The only problem is people not listening to the commands of the squad leaders and commanders. It really does make a difference in the course of the game.

I got the game last night, and have been playing it all morning. I really like the squad aspect, and I've already got my first medal (basic first aid, woohoo!)

Good God, I cannot stand the stupid interface of this game. Setting up, searching for games, connecting, accessing menus, it just seems so outrageously slow.

The game itself rocks, but I find myself not starting it up on occasion because of this aggrivation!

I agree. Good news!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Straight from the BF2 website:

Community Update - 6/30/05

Update 1.01 Coming Soon
That's right, the first Battlefield 2 Update is coming your way very soon. We've kept quiet about this update so far, but today we're going to reveal the major fixes coming with the Update. The best part is, every fix in this update is a result of Community feedback on the demo and retail game release.

Fixes

-Fixed issues that caused the Multiplayer Browser to become unresponsive.

We've added some new functionality and buttons to the Multiplayer Browser that make finding an open game of Battlefield 2 much, much easier. Issues users have encountered involving zero ping servers or browser hangs have all be addressed.

-Fixed an issue where some game controls were not available to be rebound within the Options menu.

Some functions previously were not available to be rebound in the Controls Options menus. These items have been added to make rebinding of functions much easier.

-Fixed a crash with rebinding LMB

Users who rebind the Left Mouse Button to "Move forward" rejoice!

With these fixes and more, it should be much easier to get in to a game of Battlefield 2 and that much easier to play it the way you want to play it. Look for this update to be deployed into battle some time next week!

Linux Server Build
Many of you have made us aware of issues with the previously released retail Linux server (2442) in both 32-bit and 64-bit environments. DICE has finished work on a replacement build and QA has been working hard to validate something that we can release to the community. Our goal is to get a fully operational version of the Linux server out to the Community ASAP. Stay tuned to this spot for updates.

BF2 Editor Update
Those of you who have been watching this space over the last couple of weeks are aware the BF2 Editor was intended to be released to the Community by the end of June. While we feel we are on the homestretch now in terms of being able to release a complete Battlefield 2 Mod Development Toolkit, we will not be able to meet our previously stated goal. At this time, we are committed to getting the Open Beta of the Battlefield 2 Editor released some time in July. Stay tuned to this space for more details.

Advanced Tactical Center for Battlefield 2 Releasing!
Tomorrow marks the initial release to the community of a tool built by Foolish Entertainment especially for Battlefield 2 - the Advanced Tactical Center for Battlefield 2. This easy to use tool allows your clan to communicate tactics easily and evolve them together in real time! There are also some new tools to the ATC like "zoom", "export tactic" and a "Custom Map Wizard" that builds upon the already large library of tools! Create and manage your squad before even joining a server with ATC. For more information on ATC, visit www.foolishentertainment.com

Have a greath 4th everybody!

Just got this, had some difficulties installing and getting started. Left a sour taste, and so far I don't care for it. Hopefully that will fade and Ill like it more after that patch. I really havnt seen much of an improvment over BF1942, at least not worth a whole new game. They basically just took the desert combat mod and upgraded it. Not sure if thats worth $55.

i didn't like the game that much... The interface is WAYYYY too complicated how you have to make ur own account w/ email and everything... The physics are crap, but everything else is very good.

I'm really really really (really) loving this game.

The browser issues have mostly been cleared up with the 1.01 patch. I've found that the game does take upwards of 900Mb of RAM at times! I close down my non-essential stuff before I launch. I had problems with login/the movies so I renamed the movies folder to _movies and now I get right to login, no prob.

I also had probs installing as my DVD ROM drive doesn't like this version of securerom. I installed over a network share and use an image to mount. PM for details...I play online, ranked (as portwineboy, sometimes i suck) so I'm not talking about warez or shit.

This being said................I love this fucking game. :D It's awesome. Don't bother with 64 player servers...they become m203/tow spamfests. A good pickup squad (and I had one tonight) on a 32 player server can take a ticket loss-fest and turn it around into a win. I really also like medals, badges, etc., and ranks. I unlocked my first weapon last week and went with the L85 for my medics. Wow! Wow! I love this friggin gun.

Yea, this is an extension on BF42 but c'mon, don't you think squads, medics, commanders and integrated voice comms that are easy to use and only apply to the squad you are in are a pretty big upgrade? I do. And sweet fucking graphics?

Sorry for being so vehement :thumbsup: but damn, I love this game. Yea, I know I used "fest" too many times too.

I'm liking this game a bit more now, my only problem is with how long it takes to unlock weapons. The first unlock is at 10,500 which isnt so bad...if it was every 10,500 points. But it goes up, way up, making it nearly impossible to unlock them all for a normal player. Most will only unlock the first two weapons which leads to players making multiple accounts so they have all the unlocks earlier, just not on the same character.

Private- No Unlocks
PFC- No
Lance Corporal- 1st unlock
Corporal- 2nd Unlock
Sergeant- 3rd Unlock
Staff Sergeant- 4th Unlock
Gunnery Sergeant- 5th Unlock
Master Sergeant- 6th Unlock
First Sergeant- No Unlocks
Master Gunnery Sergeant- Last Unlock

and point cost:

500 0 2 RANK_1
1000 1 3 RANK_2
10500 2 4 RANK_3
25000 3 5 RANK_4
50000 4 6 RANK_5
75000 5 7 RANK_6
150000 6 9 RANK_7
150000 6 9 RANK_8
250000 7 12 RANK_9
250000 7 12 RANK_10
250000 7 12 RANK_11
2500000 9 13 RANK_12

Now conisder I've played on rank servers probably 4-6 hours (maybe more) and only have 250 points! (I also only have 1 loss so far, which means most of my points have been doubled because I was on the winning team). Now also consider I usually score in the top half, so its not like I horribly suck and am getting last place every time. That's a little insane, all this does is create a bigger gap between the good players with a lot of time and the average player. Luckily most weapon upgrades don't seem to be a huge upgrade. So at least there's that, and at least we have the system at all for something to work toward.

Of course there's also some pretty annoying bugs/problems with it too, there are cheats/hacks out there to unlock all the weapons and raise your stats. Plus I've had ranked games where my score wasnt recorded for some reason. :( One that wasnt recorded was a game where I really kicked ass too, had about 30 kills and had a gold star (1st place) at the end of the game.

So, what do you all recommend as unlocking for your first weapon?

Anyone know what having more deaths does to your score? Does it subtract points?

My name in game is DeadResident.

You may not want to install the new patch, apparently it is having problems.
http://bf1942.boomtown.net/en_uk/art...ew.php?id=8659

Yeah its allready to late for me, patch installed and it caused more problems rather fixing anything.

Then to top that off the only server I play on cant even run now because of that memory bug. Blaaah!

First its the linux bug for our server, and now 1.01 just made it far worse...

We allready decided to back to 1.0 , glad to see EA is too.

That blows. I haven't had any problems but I only played last night for a few hours and certainly don't run a server. Latest news appears to be that EA and DICE are testing a fix for Windows servers...fix may require complete reinstall of software on the server side only.

I installed the new patch but did not have chance to try it out. Gone back to the old version and apart from the crappy browser the game is still loads of fun :)

Not sure what gun to pick up for my first unlock. Either SA80 or the other gun for the anti tanker ;0

Well it's official. EA is recommending you reinstall the entire game and do not apply the current 1.01 patch. Rank and medals will not be affected. New patch due soon.

I'm getting hit by the memory leak now too, which manifests itself with a punkbuster problem "empty win32 modules list".

Argh. :(

What's the deal with the SA80? (that is the medic gun, right?) I never see many people playing the medic, but I hear a lot of people are picking that gun to unlock.

I'm starting to get frustrated myself -- I saw the "don't install the patch!" messages before I saw the patch messages, so I went ahead and ignored it. I've had the game for like a week and a half, and I still can't get the damn thing online. I used "PBWEB" to update my PB files, but it still shows the list of servers, and if I click on any it goes to "connecting.." and then just drops back to server screen.. ARRRRGH.

It would seem being broke has saved me some anguish. Who'da thunk it? Looks like I'll wait for a patch that solves more and greater problems than it creates before purchasing.

As far as I know the L85 is the medic gun you can unlock.

I love it, fully auto and a decent sight.

The 1.02 patch is out to fix the memory leak. Server and client patches available. It doesn't say whether a full uninstall/reinstall is needed, I'm hoping to save time and installing it right on top of 1.01.

The patch notes and installer both read 1.01, so I guess they really rushed it.

I patched to 1.01, then it came out that DICE didn't know when the 1.02 patch would be released, so I reinstalled back to 1.00, and a few days later 1.02 came out.

I didn't have problems with 1.01, but CAL only endorsed 1.00 so I rolled back and many servers did as well. No issues with 1.02 yet, they just need to get a better server browser, the in game sucks...

BF2 Expansion pack in the works, for this Fall...

http://www.eagames.com/official/batt...pansion_071405

The server browser now is SO much better. It used to be that I had to scroll.. wait 5 seconds.. scroll.. wait 5 seconds.. now it updates and scrolls like it should. Servers also aren't showing up as 0 ping anymore... yaaay!

*wants to be playing right now*

Still need a favorites list.

My new ballmouse came in today. The added friction of ball mice make my Battlefield performance go up drastically over optical mice. The first match I played I got in first place as the medic with a score close to 100. Fear the ball mouse bitches. FEEAAARRR!!!

-Lasereth

We fear your balls alright.

The next patch, my friend, the next patch. Which, I think, is due end of August.

I love this game. I'm getting to be really good with the engineer kit and the commander. I unlocked the gas powered auto shotgun with my first gun reward. Nothing can beat it at medium to close range. :)

-Lasereth

Doesn't the anti tank have a similar shotgun that's actually better? Im pretty sure it does carry more rounds at least.

Depends on what side you're on, I think. One of the anti-tank sides may have a shotty, but I know one side doesn't. Same with engineer..one side has the pump action shotgun (suck). The cool part is that you can use the unlocked guns no matter which side you're on.

*EDIT*

Just checked, neither anti-tank spawn has an auto-shotgun. Neither engineer kit does either. I know that a week or so ago some weapons are accidently unlocked. That's probably what happened because I remember having the autoshotgun for free as well. It's fixed...the only way to get the autoshotgun is to unlock it.

-Lasereth

The weapon-unlock was actually pretty neat, and I'm surprised how well EA phrased the messages to avoid what really happened -- their negligence. I didn't even get effected by it, but I still think it's damn cool. A group of white-hat hackers noticed that the authentication server for EA's rankings was REALLY insecure -- ranks could be manipulated or changed at will. They emailed the CEO, the Vice President, Tech Support, QA, the works.. and never got a response. So, they decided to take UID's 45,000,000 through 50,000,000 and unlock every weapon. EA sure took notice, and no one was harmed (they coulda deleted ranks, etc..) :) Neat, eh...

I'm gettin pretty good at BF2 lately, still need some more practice with the jets.. I come up on enemy helos too fast to get a lock and fire my missles.. I usually just kamikaze their ass..

I realize the main focus of this game is online multiplayer.

But for those of us who cannot play online multiplayer and do not know many people who have the game yet to play lan.... How good are the bots in single player.
Is it worth it to get the game knowing you cant play multiplayer for at least a year or so?

I wouldn't buy the game if you're not planning on playing multiplayer. The single player sucks, plain and simple.

-Lasereth

The bots on 100% are pretty darn tough if you ask me.... IMO it is a great game, single player is a great way to test/tune your skills.

BF2 Addict
 

I killed my cable subscription over the summer so I could get more things done and then they release BF2! Those bastards!!! I have never enjoyed a first person shooter game more than I have with this one. I'm going to have the best hand-eye coordination in the land. By the way....anyone figure out the M95 sniper rifle? I can make some great long shots every now and then but I have a hard time with the short ones (less than 30m). Cross hairs will be dead center chest but I miss the dude and I get blown away. Happy gaming!