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Old 07-15-2008, 06:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Diablo III

Anyone?

http://www.blizzard.com/diablo3/

I'm giddy about this. The Witch Doctor? Awesome!
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:07 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Brought up here.

I, for one, am NOT excited. Looks like more of the same. I'm getting tired of graphical updates and new characters constituting a new game. I suppose it's better than releasing a new game instead of DLC like GH and RB are doing. Annoying!

At any rate, I expect more from Blizzard. If the Bungie announcement tomorrow morning isn't killer, I may give up on all of my favorite studios.

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Old 07-15-2008, 07:17 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I'd like to see it on a console. Call me names, but I just don't dig on PC games. The only one I've ever played to completion was Neverwinter Nights.
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Old 07-15-2008, 07:54 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Honestly, I hope it's more of the same. People have been trying to re-create Diablo II ever since Diablo II came out. I think Blizzard are the only ones that can create a worthy successor to D2.
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Old 07-15-2008, 08:10 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Exactly. It's more of the same - which is exactly what people love - but with modifications (and not just graphics) to keep it interesting. What's not to like?!
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:41 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I'll have to admit though... I HATED diablo until I played it on a LAN with friends. It's a terrible single player game, but playing it with friends is one of the best things ever (but I guess that's the case with a lot of games).
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Old 07-15-2008, 09:45 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Exactly. It's more of the same - which is exactly what people love - but with modifications (and not just graphics) to keep it interesting. What's not to like?!
*cough* The Sims *cough*

Yeah, some people will just keep buying rehashes of the same thing over and over again...

*cough* Madden games *cough*

I prefer my next $40-60 to be spent on a NEW good experience, not a remake of an old good experience I once had made prettier. *shrug*
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Old 07-15-2008, 11:09 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Pretty much every sequel is the older one made prettier. I don't really see how much they could change Diablo without completely changing what the game is.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:10 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If they made it totally different then people would bitch like Fallout 3. If they made it the same people will bitch because it's not totally different. It's a lose-lose situation for them. Either way they make it I'm sure it will be good even if it's more of the same.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:10 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Count me in for "more of the same, please!" I had been playing Diablo 2 just to burn time recently... then Diablo 3 was announced and I became so giddy. I thought to myself, "Now I can play the same immersing game, but with more convincing graphics! Sweet!"
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:01 AM   #11 (permalink)
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To me it's mostly the fact that no game has held sway over my free time as much as Diablo2 did. I've all but stopped playing PC games, never did play console games.

I'm happy that they are remaking it. More of the same, with better immersion as Halx put it.

Where do I sign for my early beta copy?
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:21 AM   #12 (permalink)
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This same thing happened to my last Blizzard countdown thread. Learn to read, people!

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I, for one, am NOT excited. Looks like more of the same. I'm getting tired of graphical updates and new characters constituting a new game. I suppose it's better than releasing a new game instead of DLC like GH and RB are doing. Annoying!
Thankfully for Blizzard, the same was super addictive and actually pretty fun. Why would they not make more of it including the graphical updates and new characters?

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You can look for it on their main website in roughly 10 or 12 years.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:16 AM   #13 (permalink)
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The ONLY thing I want changed is how loot is distributed in a party. As I returned to D2 recently it's stupid that to even have the slightest chance of getting loot requires you to be right under the boss when he dies and have the fastest connection. Even then you're going to get the good stuff stolen by someone's hacks that picks up anything good on a 0-1ms delay..
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
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The ONLY thing I want changed is how loot is distributed in a party. As I returned to D2 recently it's stupid that to even have the slightest chance of getting loot requires you to be right under the boss when he dies and have the fastest connection. Even then you're going to get the good stuff stolen by someone's hacks that picks up anything good on a 0-1ms delay..
I remember someone showing me a hilarious video of someone who had such a hack. However, his inventory was full so he was permanently stuck trying to pick up the item. So basically some monsters came by and killed him while he was stuck trying to get some items.

He then went back to his corpse, but the same problem occurred, so he died yet again, losing all the loot from his first corpse.... LOL
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:08 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The ONLY thing I want changed is how loot is distributed in a party. As I returned to D2 recently it's stupid that to even have the slightest chance of getting loot requires you to be right under the boss when he dies and have the fastest connection. Even then you're going to get the good stuff stolen by someone's hacks that picks up anything good on a 0-1ms delay..

I don't have a link handy but in one of the IGN write-ups Blizz said that every single person will get their own class specific loot.

So no fighting for loot. Ever.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:01 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I don't have a link handy but in one of the IGN write-ups Blizz said that every single person will get their own class specific loot.

So no fighting for loot. Ever.
Doesn't this mean that there won't be any trading either?
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:21 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that they only mean the appearance, not that all items will be specific to a class. Also, even if that were the case, I'm pretty sure you'd still be able to pick the items up.
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Old 07-16-2008, 06:25 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I'd imagine that loot will be changed to work like WoW loot works, so that the party leader sets a type of looting instead of the spam loot bullshit from D2, unless it's set to FFA, of course.
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:46 PM   #19 (permalink)
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From http://pc.ign.com/articles/888/888189p1.html
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5) Co-Op Is The Natural Order

Co-op is standard-issue in most action games these days, but Blizzard has known its importance for years. It's no surprise, then, that co-op is going to play a huge role in Diablo III. We're talking drop-in, drop-out play. We're talking an overhaul of Battle.net (to launch with StarCraft II). We're talking about health globe drops that heal all the members of the party. And most importantly, you can say goodbye to scrambling for loot. In Diablo III, everyone sees their own loot.
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:07 PM   #20 (permalink)
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No potion clicking/spam and skill respecs.

That's all I ask.


Anyone care to take a stab at what the remaining classes will be?
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Old 07-16-2008, 09:14 PM   #21 (permalink)
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The graphical layout not being much different means, to me, that they concentrated more on adding a new depth to the gameplay. New aspects such as the physics system and environment response, as well as the attention given to spells and skills makes Diablo III look very appealing to me. As a former, an avid, player of Diablo II, I can say that attention the actual in-game combat and overall quality of the gameplay is much more important to me than the graphics. Graphics which I think look fantastic btw (making it a bit darker wouldn't hurt though...).
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Old 07-17-2008, 05:37 AM   #22 (permalink)
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I'm excited.

I just recently bought and started playing D2 for the first time last weekend. Even with the outdated graphics I'm having a blast playing online with my friends over ventrilo. So far I have a 25 Lightning Trapsin.

My BNet name on USEast is "Esoteric." Let me know if you add me, I should be on this weekend doing Baal runs.
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Old 07-18-2008, 10:20 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I might be able to get up with you a little this weekend, Eso. I picked this back up a week ago but stopped ever since I was forced to reinstall Windows. Installing this game is such a hassle. I've got a 51 WW/Berzerk barb called Denigulator with really shitty gear.
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Old 07-21-2008, 08:05 AM   #24 (permalink)
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I am really excited about this one. I miss the old days of huge D2 LAN parties with my friends. I just hope they include the paladin in some shape or form. I've always like aura based classes.
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Old 08-03-2008, 07:49 AM   #25 (permalink)
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I have been checking back to see if they'll add more characters to the site, but they haven't added anything yet. Argh! This game can't come fast enough!
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Old 08-04-2008, 05:59 PM   #26 (permalink)
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I have been checking back to see if they'll add more characters to the site, but they haven't added anything yet. Argh! This game can't come fast enough!
tell me about it... i can't wait for this game! I'm more excited about D3 than SC2 for sure
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Old 10-10-2008, 08:55 PM   #27 (permalink)
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Time to check the main website, people. They updated with a new class. They have a trailer up on the website as well as this:

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Old 10-10-2008, 09:05 PM   #28 (permalink)
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Wizard looks just amazing. Everything I was hoping for in a sorc replacement. I cannot wait for this game.
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Old 10-11-2008, 04:01 AM   #29 (permalink)
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I dunno. All I need is a fireball spell to put all of my talent points into...
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Old 10-11-2008, 06:22 AM   #30 (permalink)
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It looks like they replaced the fireball with that purple energy ball (the he uses at the end to break that skeleton's shield). It seems just as effective.
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:38 AM   #31 (permalink)
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You know, at first I thought the graphics were not all that different. I thought the environments were too clean, too bright, lacked that grittiness D2 had. I know now that I was horribly wrong. Horribly, horribly wrong. Amazing.
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Old 10-11-2008, 12:35 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Wow that wizard action is epic...

Realistic expectations for release? I know Blizzard is slow as hell, but maybe I can enjoy some SC2 during the wait..
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Old 10-11-2008, 06:11 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Sometimes I prefer Blizzard to be slow on release, because that means that the product will be high quality. Other times I really just want to play the game.

But, it took 4 months for them to release information on the third class. At the very least, they will have 5 classes (I don't think they have released information on the number of classes). I assume their target number of classes is 7 being equal to that of LoD.

So, we have to wait for them to at least finish giving out information about the other classes. If 5 classes, that means that'll at least be another 8 months before we can start expecting to hear a release date. If it is 7 classes, we may be looking at 16 months. Of course, this is just going on the amount of time it took for them to reveal the wizard class.
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Old 10-11-2008, 07:24 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Slow Time looks so awesome.

I guess an Archer/Marksman is next up? Hopefully they add something completely different like a demon-based class or something.
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Old 10-12-2008, 10:25 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Sometimes I prefer Blizzard to be slow on release, because that means that the product will be high quality. Other times I really just want to play the game.

But, it took 4 months for them to release information on the third class. At the very least, they will have 5 classes (I don't think they have released information on the number of classes). I assume their target number of classes is 7 being equal to that of LoD.

So, we have to wait for them to at least finish giving out information about the other classes. If 5 classes, that means that'll at least be another 8 months before we can start expecting to hear a release date. If it is 7 classes, we may be looking at 16 months. Of course, this is just going on the amount of time it took for them to reveal the wizard class.
From the Diablo 3 website (FAQs):
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How many character classes are included in Diablo III? What are they?
Five character classes will be included in the game, two of which, the barbarian and witch doctor, were revealed when the game was announced at the 2008 Blizzard Entertainment Worldwide Invitational. The other classes will be announced at a later date.
A few other things that caught my attention, also from the FAQs section...
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Exciting new classes like the witch doctor bring new gameplay options to the table. Returning classes, like the barbarian, have been completely redone with new skills to give them a feel unique to Diablo III. New customization options will provide for an even greater level of character specialization than the previous Diablo games, allowing the player to create unique characters brimming with power.

Diablo III is powered by a new graphics engine that can display characters and hordes of monsters in lush, fully 3D environments. Powerful special-effects systems and Havok-powered physics allow the player to lay waste to the Hells' minions in spectacular ways.

Also, Diablo III builds on the random environments of the previous Diablo games by introducing a host of new ways to create random scripted events throughout the game. This creates a dense and exciting world alive with quests, NPCs, dynamic encounters, and viciously challenging new monsters and bosses. Diablo III's environments add a great deal of interactivity to the game, including destructible elements and environmental obstacles that can be turned against your enemies.

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My guess for the last two classes would be a hunter/archer/ranged type fellow and either a sword and board type or a shape shifter.
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Old 10-13-2008, 03:01 AM   #38 (permalink)
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You know, at first I thought the graphics were not all that different. I thought the environments were too clean, too bright, lacked that grittiness D2 had. I know now that I was horribly wrong. Horribly, horribly wrong. Amazing.
my sentiments exactly!

good to see myself proven wrong.
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:18 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Five classes = booooooo.

I really think it's too few. I hope there are more than just 2 on its expansion.
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Old 10-13-2008, 06:55 AM   #40 (permalink)
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Well, my diablo crack addiction is back it seems..

I recently finally shook off the reins of my dead horse (WOW) after so long of playing it.

D2 was my god child. For me, it wasn't about the groups the teamwork, yes in a small part it was...

It was plain and simple.. all about the loot. Not that I got any loot, I wanted to see that cool item drop. If I got it cool, if not oh well I got to see it drop.

When I quit D2 i had at least 1 of every green and gold item in the game on my mules.

With them adding respecs to the game, im giddy in the fact i won't have 5 or so toons all the same class cuz i either:

1. Didn't like this end talent
2. The synergies sucked for this end talent
3. I couldn't get the one main epic item that "made" this build
4. In leveling up so fast, the fatigue caused me to slip up and put a point in the wrong tree thus killing this toon and starting over.


The addition to the rune system change was awesome. Instead of hunting down an item and either saveing a socket quest or and arm and a leg for the good item, you put it in the skill... like teleport.

Added you don't distribute attribute points. (every class gets a fixed increase at every lvl) you rely more on the items and your skills.

It always annoyed me to see a DR sorc with more str than a barb in D2. heh

5 classes are planned so far. Got a melee, two casters, so im guessing the next will be a range type like the amazon.. well outa the two that are left to show.

I just hated that in wow you had to put up with guilds get a spot in a raid, and devote your entire game experience hoarding your station in that spot lest someone else waltz in.

With D2 and hopfully D3 you just join games and do your thing.

I'm not justifying D3 will blow anything outta the water.. just saying heh.. You don't go see a Godzilla movie or a Captian America movie cuz its awesome.. you go because you love the cheezyness of it all.

In esential, a game is a time waster.. And I loved wasteing time in D2.

I've noticed on Diii.net they are hinting at a subscription to D3. In no way will this cut out the item farmers or hacks. But with all thier security there are bound to get them.

I just feel it will be a better play experience than D2 became. The only thing D2 bothered me was the drop hacks.. Hated lvling up a toon in hardcore just to have a hacked sorc drop a sword, crash my game and I die from it all.

They did say joining a game put you in the party automatically, and no way to turn PK heh or hostile. Don't know how that will work.

Also the loot system is showing each person will see loot.. thier own loot. Unlike wow where you had to actually click the body, the items drop and its up to that player to pick them up...

this cuts lag a bit.. cuz im not riddled with junk on the ground, just my junk i dont want.

On the other hand I can see joining a game and not knowing how far they are cuz there isn't any junk on the ground heh.

all in all, I'm getting it. I might not like it, might quit it after a month.. but I'll give it a go, all cuz i liked the other two.

Though, I got to admit I'll miss the dark mood set by the lightning in the previous D2, the LOTR moive lighting effect they are introducing has promise.

Also lol, the fact I can destroy the surroundings to kill mobs makes it interesting. With a wizard, keeping them in a group using teleport to lure them on then bam, a wall falls on them... hmmmm me likey
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