What proof can you give me that you aren't dreaming right now? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

TerresqueÜ · 11-03-2003, 04:05 PM

Well? How do you know this isn't a big dream? You are a nerd, so what else would you dream about? There have been cases of thought, pain, and nearly everything in dreams. So, tell me how you know you aren't dreaming?

hint: You would have two lives

Loui · 11-03-2003, 04:27 PM

um, because if i were then i wouldnt be dreaming someone was asking me a stupid question... unless you were naked.

YzermanS19 · 11-03-2003, 04:48 PM

I think my signature answers that.

sailor · 11-03-2003, 04:49 PM

I dont. But it doesnt really matter to me. I could be dreaming, I could be plugged into The Matrix, whatever... I have no way of knowing that Im not, so Im just going to live my life.

KWSN · 11-03-2003, 09:48 PM

well..... not to give it away but there IS an actual answer....

Terresque you might have wanted to post this in Paranoia if you wanted more serious responses but.... meh

lyxo · 11-03-2003, 09:57 PM

it's actually how you define reality

What I experience now is reality.

My dreams restrict my thought to certain boundaries that I am not aware of at the time, but am aware of when I wake up.

Loup · 11-04-2003, 07:37 AM

Because when I masterbated 15 minutes ago I didn't wake up in a wet spot.

Peetster · 11-04-2003, 07:49 AM

When I dream, I ALWAYS know it is a dream.

I am not experiencing that feeling.

Therefore, I am not dreaming.

rockogre · 11-04-2003, 07:57 AM

I know I am not dreaming because I am always better looking than this when I'm dreaming.

Checked the mirror, confirmed that I am indeed awake. Too much reality for dreams.

Possibly having continuous nightmare. Will get back to you.

Snoogans · 11-04-2003, 08:20 AM

my dreams aren't this boring

TerresqueÜ · 11-04-2003, 08:31 AM

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Originally posted by rockogre
I know I am not dreaming because I am always better looking than this when I'm dreaming.

Checked the mirror, confirmed that I am indeed awake. Too much reality for dreams.

Possibly having continuous nightmare. Will get back to you.

You're close with the reality thing. Keep brainstorming on that.

crayzeeredhead · 11-04-2003, 09:47 AM

okay in my opinion reality can't be controled and dreams can!! what i mean is with pratice people can control the flow and background of some dreams! on top of that dreams are random occurances often jumping from one scene to the next!!
Reality is uncontrollable! Meaning that I can't think I am gonna win a million dollars and it happens, although i would probably sit on my arse until the money wasa delivered UPS to my front door causing me to lose my job and my children to starve!!

TerresqueÜ · 11-05-2003, 05:53 PM

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Originally posted by crayzeeredhead
okay in my opinion reality can't be controled and dreams can!! what i mean is with pratice people can control the flow and background of some dreams! on top of that dreams are random occurances often jumping from one scene to the next!!
Reality is uncontrollable! Meaning that I can't think I am gonna win a million dollars and it happens, although i would probably sit on my arse until the money wasa delivered UPS to my front door causing me to lose my job and my children to starve!!

Eh, that is true, but if you want to you can control your own fate and reality as well. Good try though.

Hint...: Pick up where you left off...

Fremen · 11-05-2003, 09:02 PM

I'm not dreaming because if I were, I'd be touching Alyssa Milanos' hiney.
(touch the hiney, touch the hiney!)

Darth_Kettch · 11-06-2003, 03:28 PM

I'm not dreaming because I successfully counted all my fingers, and they added up to 10.

(try counting how many fingers you have the next time you're aware that you're dreaming!)

Arc101 · 11-06-2003, 03:38 PM

Wait, no a beautiful red head hasn't just walked into the room in a maids outfit and given me a blow job so unfortunately this is reality.

TerresqueÜ · 11-06-2003, 06:46 PM

Ach!

Hint, consecutiveness of your dreams vs the consecutiveness of your real life.

Midnight_Son · 11-06-2003, 07:04 PM

I can look at a clock......then look away, then look back and it still looks the same. That's how I know I'm not dreaming.......sound foolish? try it in your next dream, if you can.

edit: don't do with a digital....find a damn real one, with hands!

Neato · 11-06-2003, 11:39 PM

In dreams light switches never work, the hands on a clock never stay the same after looking at them a second time, and text never stays the same after looking at them a second time.
But then again who is to say that those arent only true in a dream within a dream?

Jam · 11-06-2003, 11:48 PM

i know its not a dream cause im not at work... so sad.. all my recent dreams have been at work... it actually confused me for 2 days as to wether or not my boss told me to do something but i couldnt ask him because i didnt want him to think i was crazy

Shauk · 11-06-2003, 11:49 PM

reminds me of the movie "Waking life"

I like it when movies fuck with your head like that.

YzermanS19 · 11-07-2003, 05:19 PM

Just give me the answer.

I've read through this entire thing and I honestly can't say that there is any true answer. Nothing is impossible in dreams. I know for a fact I can turn on and off light switches. I can look at a clock and it remains the same. I can read in dream.

Why? I've trained myself to dream lucidly....I can hold my own world together in dream, and It won't fall apart.

I have even asked people who they were and what it felt like to be a character in my dream. They give me a definite and exact response (The most interesting of these people was from Tulsa, Oklahoma, was out walking his dog, and didn't even understand why It was necessarily my dream).

Waking Life was a big influence....I could lucid dream before I saw the movie, but it gave me a lot of ideas.

I'm sure the answer is obvious, but all the reasons given by other people aren't a factor. I can do most anything in my dreams.

empu · 11-07-2003, 10:15 PM

If I'm dreaming right now then that would imply I'm asleep in the non-dream reality. Unless, of course, the memory that there is such a thing as "sleep" is itself something my mind fabricated as part of this elaborate dream. In fact even the concept of dreaming itself is certainly a dream-creation, which is patently impossible due to inherent circularity. Since impossible things can't exist in reality, I must be dreaming right now. QED.

Four Fingers · 11-08-2003, 07:07 AM

Easy. Study something new and complicated. Something you know you couldn't have thought up yourself.

Study mathematics for 3 years in university. You can tell that the theorems are true because you can prove them mathematicially. And there's no way you just dreamt it all, because it'd take 2000 years and 50 geniuses to come up with this shit.

TerresqueÜ · 11-08-2003, 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Four Fingers
Easy. Study something new and complicated. Something you know you couldn't have thought up yourself.

Study mathematics for 3 years in university. You can tell that the theorems are true because you can prove them mathematicially. And there's no way you just dreamt it all, because it'd take 2000 years and 50 geniuses to come up with this shit.

You're close with the continuity of time.

Hint: There would be two parallel lives if you were dreaming right now.

Shpoop · 11-08-2003, 12:26 PM

i think hes looking for kill yourself, since you can never, ever die in your dream...

however, what if once you did that, you woke up, and thought you had dreamt all of the deaths of your loved ones, etc

TerresqueÜ · 11-08-2003, 12:59 PM

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Originally posted by Shpoop
i think hes looking for kill yourself, since you can never, ever die in your dream...

however, what if once you did that, you woke up, and thought you had dreamt all of the deaths of your loved ones, etc

Well, that's totally untrue. I've died in dreams. It's ratehr easy if you're a lucid dreamer. Which I generally am not, but yes you can die in dreams.

Mr. Spacemonkey · 11-08-2003, 05:14 PM

Please just give me the answer. I think my heads going to explode! Unless of course there is no answer. But then that would just make this whole thread nonsense.

11-03-2003, 04:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
TerresqueÜ Hiding Out	What proof can you give me that you aren't dreaming right now? Well? How do you know this isn't a big dream? You are a nerd, so what else would you dream about? There have been cases of thought, pain, and nearly everything in dreams. So, tell me how you know you aren't dreaming? hint: You would have two lives __________________ Say yes to the 'Tilted Roleplaying' Forum http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1932&highlight=petition

11-03-2003, 04:48 PM	#3 (permalink)
YzermanS19 not your typical god-fearing junkie Location: State of Confusion	I think my signature answers that. __________________ the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long and you have burned so very, very brightly

11-03-2003, 04:49 PM	#4 (permalink)
sailor beauty in the breakdown Location: Chapel Hill, NC	I dont. But it doesnt really matter to me. I could be dreaming, I could be plugged into The Matrix, whatever... I have no way of knowing that Im not, so Im just going to live my life. __________________ "Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." --Plato

11-03-2003, 09:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
KWSN green	well..... not to give it away but there IS an actual answer.... Terresque you might have wanted to post this in Paranoia if you wanted more serious responses but.... meh __________________ Your arms are broken!

11-04-2003, 07:37 AM	#7 (permalink)
Loup Pup no More Location: Voted the Best	Because when I masterbated 15 minutes ago I didn't wake up in a wet spot. __________________ "If you cannot lift the load off another's back, do not walk away. Try to lighten it." ~ Frank Tyger

11-03-2003, 04:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Loui Upright	um, because if i were then i wouldnt be dreaming someone was asking me a stupid question... unless you were naked.

11-03-2003, 09:57 PM	#6 (permalink)
lyxo Crazy	it's actually how you define reality What I experience now is reality. My dreams restrict my thought to certain boundaries that I am not aware of at the time, but am aware of when I wake up.

11-04-2003, 07:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
Peetster Right Now Location: Home	When I dream, I ALWAYS know it is a dream. I am not experiencing that feeling. Therefore, I am not dreaming.

11-04-2003, 07:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
rockogre I aim to misbehave! Location: SW Oklahoma	I know I am not dreaming because I am always better looking than this when I'm dreaming. Checked the mirror, confirmed that I am indeed awake. Too much reality for dreams. Possibly having continuous nightmare. Will get back to you. __________________ Only two defining forces have ever offered to die for you, Jesus Christ and the American G. I. One died for your soul, the other for your freedom

11-04-2003, 08:20 AM	#10 (permalink)
Snoogans Veteran Location: Uppsala, Sweden	my dreams aren't this boring __________________ Internet hint: If someone's asking if what they do is weird, it always is.

11-04-2003, 09:47 AM	#12 (permalink)
crayzeeredhead Tilted Location: here& there but here today	okay in my opinion reality can't be controled and dreams can!! what i mean is with pratice people can control the flow and background of some dreams! on top of that dreams are random occurances often jumping from one scene to the next!! Reality is uncontrollable! Meaning that I can't think I am gonna win a million dollars and it happens, although i would probably sit on my arse until the money wasa delivered UPS to my front door causing me to lose my job and my children to starve!! __________________ For everything there is a neverending cycle- birth, death, rebirth. Evil can and will not exist without good and visa versa. You also reap what you sew. There is a sliver of truth in every saying -those are a few!!

11-05-2003, 09:02 PM	#14 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	I'm not dreaming because if I were, I'd be touching Alyssa Milanos' hiney. (touch the hiney, touch the hiney!) __________________ Google

11-06-2003, 03:28 PM	#15 (permalink)
Darth_Kettch Insane Location: Norway	I'm not dreaming because I successfully counted all my fingers, and they added up to 10. (try counting how many fingers you have the next time you're aware that you're dreaming!)

11-06-2003, 03:38 PM	#16 (permalink)
Arc101 Addict Location: Nottingham, England	Wait, no a beautiful red head hasn't just walked into the room in a maids outfit and given me a blow job so unfortunately this is reality.

11-06-2003, 06:46 PM	#17 (permalink)
TerresqueÜ Hiding Out	Ach! Hint, consecutiveness of your dreams vs the consecutiveness of your real life. __________________ Say yes to the 'Tilted Roleplaying' Forum http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1932&highlight=petition

11-06-2003, 07:04 PM	#18 (permalink)
Midnight_Son The Cover Doesn't Match The Book Location: in a van down by the river	I can look at a clock......then look away, then look back and it still looks the same. That's how I know I'm not dreaming.......sound foolish? try it in your next dream, if you can. edit: don't do with a digital....find a damn real one, with hands! __________________ SWM, tattooed, seeks meaningful tits and beer. Enjoys biker mags, pornography, and Sunday morning walks to the liquor store. Winners of erotic hot dog eating contests given priority. Last edited by Midnight_Son; 11-06-2003 at 07:09 PM..

11-06-2003, 11:39 PM	#19 (permalink)
Neato Insane Location: The Oposite, Inverse of Hell (Wisconsin)	In dreams light switches never work, the hands on a clock never stay the same after looking at them a second time, and text never stays the same after looking at them a second time. But then again who is to say that those arent only true in a dream within a dream?

11-06-2003, 11:48 PM	#20 (permalink)
Jam Junkie	i know its not a dream cause im not at work... so sad.. all my recent dreams have been at work... it actually confused me for 2 days as to wether or not my boss told me to do something but i couldnt ask him because i didnt want him to think i was crazy

11-06-2003, 11:49 PM	#21 (permalink)
Shauk Confused Adult Location: Spokane, WA	reminds me of the movie "Waking life" I like it when movies fuck with your head like that.

11-07-2003, 05:19 PM	#22 (permalink)
YzermanS19 not your typical god-fearing junkie Location: State of Confusion	Just give me the answer. I've read through this entire thing and I honestly can't say that there is any true answer. Nothing is impossible in dreams. I know for a fact I can turn on and off light switches. I can look at a clock and it remains the same. I can read in dream. Why? I've trained myself to dream lucidly....I can hold my own world together in dream, and It won't fall apart. I have even asked people who they were and what it felt like to be a character in my dream. They give me a definite and exact response (The most interesting of these people was from Tulsa, Oklahoma, was out walking his dog, and didn't even understand why It was necessarily my dream). Waking Life was a big influence....I could lucid dream before I saw the movie, but it gave me a lot of ideas. I'm sure the answer is obvious, but all the reasons given by other people aren't a factor. I can do most anything in my dreams. __________________ the light that burns twice as bright burns half as long and you have burned so very, very brightly

11-07-2003, 10:15 PM	#23 (permalink)
empu Crazy	If I'm dreaming right now then that would imply I'm asleep in the non-dream reality. Unless, of course, the memory that there is such a thing as "sleep" is itself something my mind fabricated as part of this elaborate dream. In fact even the concept of dreaming itself is certainly a dream-creation, which is patently impossible due to inherent circularity. Since impossible things can't exist in reality, I must be dreaming right now. QED.

11-08-2003, 07:07 AM	#24 (permalink)
Four Fingers Crazy	Easy. Study something new and complicated. Something you know you couldn't have thought up yourself. Study mathematics for 3 years in university. You can tell that the theorems are true because you can prove them mathematicially. And there's no way you just dreamt it all, because it'd take 2000 years and 50 geniuses to come up with this shit. __________________ "Always do right - this will gratify some and astonish the rest."

11-08-2003, 12:26 PM	#26 (permalink)
Shpoop Curious Location: NJ (but just for college)	i think hes looking for kill yourself, since you can never, ever die in your dream... however, what if once you did that, you woke up, and thought you had dreamt all of the deaths of your loved ones, etc

11-08-2003, 05:14 PM	#28 (permalink)
Mr. Spacemonkey Wake up Location: Nowhere special	Please just give me the answer. I think my heads going to explode! Unless of course there is no answer. But then that would just make this whole thread nonsense. __________________ "I hope that when the world comes to an end, I can breathe a sigh of relief, because there will be so much to look forward to." -- Donnie Darko