BadNick

ahhh, now I remember being hard at the Hard Times Cafe in Indianapolis?

uncle phil

bourbon?

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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
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never wrestle with a pig.
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Jetée

Are "Katie & Kelly" there, too, for you?



Towards Tully:

Looking at this handy-dandy map, are you within any of the palette of gray counties?

(And if I unfairly uncovered your possible ocular condition of selective color-blindness, those counties of which I refer to include, and are limited to: Clark, Clay, Dearborn, Decatur, Floyd, Fountain, Franklin, Greene, Jefferson, Jennings, Montgomery, Ohio, Owen, Parke, Putnam, Ripley, Scott, Sullivan, Switzerland, Vermillion, Vigo)

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Tully Mars

I like the two on the left. You can have the two on the right. I'm nice like that.

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Nope, sounds good though.

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I see colors fine. I have a little gray matter. But I'm not in a gray county here.

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Jetée

Fuschia counties?

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BadNick

Muncie?

Tully Mars

No to both.

Go back to J's color map and go north.

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uncle phil

warsaw?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

Tully Mars

Go north.

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uncle phil

osceola?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
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"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

Jetée

green ones?

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Tully Mars

Ever so close.

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No, not in one the counties in green on your map... so more to the west.

Phil needs to go east and you need to go west. Both not by much.

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BadNick

maybe Elkhart? ...if so, please tell us why


perhaps a diving job in sanitary services? ...cesspool diving?

A & M Diving
52742 County Road 11
Elkhart, IN 46514-9391
Contact Phone: (574) 266-1846
Business Category: Sanitary Services in Elkhart, IN
Industry (SIC): Sanitary Services, NEC

Jetée

Are you sure never heard of Southbend 'til a few weeks ago?

Guessing no to my rhetorical question, guessing yes to my implied question of you being there.

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Tully Mars

No, I'm not interested in that job. But it maybe one of the only jobs available in the area. And Yes I am in Elkhart. You found me!

I'm in Elkhart because when I found "the flag" last time I was watching a special on Elkhart and how the collapse of the RV industry has devastated the town. I found it interesting and sad, very sad, to hear how many people went from middle class to dirt poor within a few short months. One day people had jobs, decent paying jobs, making RV's and RV parts. Then seemingly overnight the bottom fell out and they were out of work. It started with the rise in gas prices last summer. People weren't that interested in buying an RV that gets 4mpg when gas was 4 bucks a gallon. Then gas prices went down but just as that happened the financial crisis hit no one could get a loan to buy what they were building.

Sad, but they're working hard to get new industries to more there. They have all the infrastructure for major manufacturing in place and have had a few businesses such as wind turbine manufactures move into the area. So while it was sad to watch it was also up lifting to hear so many who've lost so much take an "not going down without a fight" attitude.

So that's why I was in Elkhart.

You're up Nick. Where are you going with your bad self?

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Nope, Nick found me. And yes I've heard of Southbend. In fact I know of at least five Southbends. Two of them in Washington state, how that works I have no idea.

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Jetée

At least I know that Elkhart, the town, is within the appropriate county of same name.

And besides being the "RV Capitol of the World", wiki says it is "The City with a Heart".

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Also didn't know this:

On February 9, 2009 President Barack Obama spoke to a crowd of thousands at Concord High School in an attempt to bolster support for his nearly trillion dollar economic stimulus package.

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—Mohandas K. Gandhi

Tully Mars

I didn't miss something did I? I mean you never guessed this county, right?

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Jetée

Nope, I just know cities that don't belong where they currently are, like Kansas City, MO

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Tully Mars

Ok, Just checking I do miss stuff... a lot.

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BadNick

Just this morning I heard a news report about some mid-Western manufacturing plants that have been converted to wind power component mfg. and now they are the national hub of that component for the wind power industry. Ideally, it would be great if industries that become obsolete can be replaced with ones that have upcoming potential, but too often that does not seem to happen.


OK, where in the world am I?

Tully Mars

Polonnaruwa, Sri Lanka?

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uncle phil

dalhart, tx?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
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never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

BadNick

nope, neither of those...and I feel sorry for people in both of those places, though I feel more sorry for the ones in Sri Lanka since they have a much harder time getting out of their predicament vs. most Texans who we'd rather they just stay were they are.

uncle phil

NH?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

BadNick

yes

uncle phil

WH?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

BadNick

yes

uncle phil

canadia?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

MacGuyver

estados unidos?

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BadNick

no, unc
yes mac

clue: where I am is related to today

Tully Mars

West coast?

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uncle phil

north 40?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

BadNick

yes yes

MacGuyver

landlocked state?

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We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence then, is not an act, but a habit.
---Aristotle

Deeds, not words, shall speak [for] me.
---John Fletcher

uncle phil

washington?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

BadNick

not LLS
yes WA

uncle phil

a city?

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"We were wrong, terribly wrong. (We) should not have tried to fight a guerrilla war with conventional military tactics against a foe willing to absorb enormous casualties...in a country lacking the fundamental political stability necessary to conduct effective military and pacification operations. It could not be done and it was not done."
- Robert S. McNamara
-----------------------------------------
"We will take our napalm and flame throwers out of the land that scarcely knows the use of matches...
We will leave you your small joys and smaller troubles."
- Eugene McCarthy in "Vietnam Message"
-----------------------------------------
never wrestle with a pig.
you both get dirty;
the pig likes it.

Tully Mars

Seattle, where the idea of Earth day was born?

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BadNick

yes

...I said this yesterday and yesterday's gone



OOPS! ...yes, Seattle the place where the seed was sown for Earth Day. You got it, Tul. Dive! Dive!

Earth Day - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In September 1969 at a conference in Seattle, Washington, U.S. Senator Gaylord Nelson of Wisconsin announced that in spring 1970 there would be a nationwide grassroots demonstration on the environment. This occurred during a time of great concern about overpopulation and when there was a strong movement towards "Zero Population Growth."

Nelson viewed the stabilization of the nation's population as an important aspect of environmentalism and later said:

"The bigger the population gets, the more serious the problems become ... We have to address the population issue. The United Kingdom, with the U.S. supporting it, took the position in Cairo in 1994 that every country was responsible for stabilizing its own population. It can be done. But in this country, it's phony to say 'I'm for the environment but not for limiting immigration.'"

Senator Nelson first proposed the nationwide environmental protest to thrust the environment onto the national agenda.” "It was a gamble," he recalls, "but it worked."

Five months before the first April 22 Earth Day, on Sunday, November 30, 1969, The New York Times carried a lengthy article by Gladwin Hill reporting on the rising hysteria of "global cooling".

Tully Mars

So yes to Seattle?

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