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orphen · 08-29-2004, 06:54 PM

http://www.worldpress.org/Europe/1920.cfm

Dunno, never been to anyone of them

i don't particularly like "expensive" food. sometimes a nice cheap pizza is better than anything else in the world. well probably would like to try any of these places once in my life time

bout you guys?

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RESTAURANT MAGAZINE - 50 BEST RESTAURANTS IN THE WORLD 2004

1. French Laundry, Yountville, CA, USA
2. The Fat Duck, Bray, Berkshire, UK
3. El Bulli, Montjoi, Spain
4. L'Atelier de Joel Robuchon, Rue de Montalembert, Paris
5. Pierre Gagnaire, Rue Balzac, Paris
6. Guy Savoy, Rue Troyon, Paris
7. Nobu, Park Lane, London
8. Restaurant Gordon Ramsay, Royal Hospital Road, London
9. Michel Bras, Laguiole, France
10. Louis XV, Monaco
11. Gramercy Tavern, New York
12. Daniel, New York
13. Tetsuya's, Sydney
14. Hakkasan, London
15. The Waterside Inn, Bray
16. St. John, London
17. L'Ami Louis, Paris
18. Jean Georges, New York
19. Le Gavroche, London
20. Flower Drum, Melbourne
21. The Merchant House, Ludlow
22. Arzak, San Sebastian, Spain
23. Dal Pescatore, Canneto sull'Oglio, Italy
24. The Ivy, London
25. Arpege, Paris
26. El Raco de Can Fabes, San Celoni, Spain
27. Schwarzwaldstube, Baiersbronn, Germany
28. The Cliff, Barbados
29. Rockpool, Sydney
30. Le Manoir Aux Quat' Saisons, Oxford
31. Al Mahara, Burj Al Arab, Dubai
32. Charlie Trotter, Chicago
33. Le Jardin des Sens, Montpellier
34. The Square, London
35. Spago, Los Angeles
36. Bukhara, India
37. Chez Panisse, California
38. Le Meurice, Paris
39. Trois Gros, Roanne, France
40. Balthazar, New York
41. River Cafe, London
42. La Tupina, Bordeaux
43. Auberge d'Ill, Illhauseern-Alsace
44. Craft, New York
45. Le Tour d'Argent, Paris
46. La Maison de Marc Veyrat, Annecy, France
47. Felix, Peninsula Hotel, Hong Kong
48. De Karmeliet, Bruges
49. The Wolseley, London
50. Gambero Rosso, San Vincenzo

INDIVIDUAL AWARD WINNERS

Best Restaurant in the World: The French Laundry, CA, USA

Best American Restaurant: The French Laundry, CA, USA

Best European Restaurant: The Fat Duck, Bray, UK

Best African and Middle Eastern Restaurant: Al Mahara, Dubai

Best Asian Restaurant: Bukhara, New Delhi, India

Best Australasian Restaurant: Tetsuya's, Sydney, Australia

Best Newcomer to the List: The Fat Duck, Bray, UK

Most Improved Restaurant on the List: St. John, London, UK

Outstanding Value: Gramercy Tavern, NY, USA

Chef's Choice (voted for by last year's 50 Best): Tetsuya's, Sydney, Australia

Editor's Choice (voted for by editorial panel): The Wolseley, UK, London

RainbowBright · 08-29-2004, 08:04 PM

I've never even been to any of those cities let alone the resturants! One of my favorities here at home is the Daily Planet, Fresno CA. Ask to sit in the back and the ambiance is great. For cheap food I love a cheap burrito from one of the many little burrito places around here.

powerclown · 08-29-2004, 08:32 PM

Nothing from New Orleans?
That ain't right.

davik · 08-29-2004, 11:34 PM

That whole list seems a like it has a bit of a western slant, but maybe that's just because I think that most food west of the middle east (with a few exceptions) isn't worth eating. At the very least I would have expected more restaurants with names implying that they served asian food.

For probably the best food (and definitely the best chinese food) I've had I would have to say the Szechwan Wok in Silverton (suburb of Cincinnati), Ohio. It's kind of a hole in the wall type of place, but the food is the best that I've every found, and I've eaten alot of chinese in alot of parts of the world. If you're ever in the area stop in and try it; start with the pot stickers

The owners said they would probably be closing and retiring in the next couple of years, but they've said that if I'm really interested I can spend a couple of days with the chef in the kitchen right before they do, so you may see some of their recipes popping up on here...

maleficent · 08-30-2004, 05:50 AM

The restaurants in NY I would probably agree with, although I'd put Jean Georges far above Grammercy Tavern (though it's horribly expensive). And charlie Trotters best restuarant in Chicago? I so don't think so... I wouldn't even put it in the top 10 in Chicago...

I've heard a lot of good things about French Laundry but never been there.

What standard are they using for judging these restaurants.

Blackthorn · 09-06-2004, 05:40 PM

11. Gramercy Tavern, New York
18. Jean Georges, New York
24. The Ivy, London
28. The Cliff, Barbados
35. Spago, Los Angeles
40. Balthazar, New York

I've been to these and by far the most memorable for me was the Gramercy Tavern in New York City. I loved this place but that's probably got as much to do with the company that particular evening (and maybe more the after prom - if ya get my drift) than for the actual meal.

Outside of that the only other place that stands out is The Cliff in Barbados but that's because of the ambiance/atmosphere. It's right on the water and I had the best surf & turf combo. I think the fish was grouper and the beef was two fold: an 8 oz filet mignon and a single braised short rib. Absolutely fabulous!

The others were all good but in the grand scheme of things -- as the original poster mentioned perhaps a pizza is just as good depending on circumstance and company.

kutulu · 09-07-2004, 04:01 PM

you mean the Olive Garden didn't make the list? It's a traveshamockery!

Mephisto2 · 09-07-2004, 07:38 PM

Thanks for this list. Interesting.

I personally go by Michelin Stars (at least in Europe), as good indicators. Of course, the only problem with that is they tend to have a western and French cuisine bias. :-)

By the way, two months booking for the French Laundry?! Yikes.

Mr Mephisto

I've been to Tetsuya's and Rockpool in Sydney. Tetsuya's is sublime and extremely expensive, but I don't really like sea-food, so this kinda ruined it for me. Rockpool is very nice, very expensive and very good. Excellent service.

Kabootarjaja · 09-10-2004, 08:18 PM

been to bukhara in new delhi -- it's super food, but "best asian restaurant" ? I doubt it. You can find much better food/atmosphere in Delhi itself, and that's just one city in one country in Asia.

Btw, IMO Bukhara is in a whole different league compared to Spago, LA in what really counts -- the food. Not sure how they come up with ratings and how skewed things are towards ambience and the snoot factor.

also been to l'atelier in paris (which is in the top 10), and it's snooty and very chic -- food's great (i had steak tartare which was excellent), but again imo bukhara's better.

08-29-2004, 11:34 PM	#4 (permalink)
davik Irradiation for fun and profit Location: Controlled access area	That whole list seems a like it has a bit of a western slant, but maybe that's just because I think that most food west of the middle east (with a few exceptions) isn't worth eating. At the very least I would have expected more restaurants with names implying that they served asian food. For probably the best food (and definitely the best chinese food) I've had I would have to say the Szechwan Wok in Silverton (suburb of Cincinnati), Ohio. It's kind of a hole in the wall type of place, but the food is the best that I've every found, and I've eaten alot of chinese in alot of parts of the world. If you're ever in the area stop in and try it; start with the pot stickers The owners said they would probably be closing and retiring in the next couple of years, but they've said that if I'm really interested I can spend a couple of days with the chef in the kitchen right before they do, so you may see some of their recipes popping up on here... __________________ "Whenever you find that you are on the side of the majority, it is time to reform." -- Mark Twain

08-30-2004, 05:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
maleficent Junkie Moderator Emeritus Location: Chicago	The restaurants in NY I would probably agree with, although I'd put Jean Georges far above Grammercy Tavern (though it's horribly expensive). And charlie Trotters best restuarant in Chicago? I so don't think so... I wouldn't even put it in the top 10 in Chicago... I've heard a lot of good things about French Laundry but never been there. What standard are they using for judging these restaurants. __________________ Free your heart from hatred. Free your mind from worries. Live simply. Give more. Expect less.

09-06-2004, 05:40 PM	#6 (permalink)
Blackthorn Beware the Mad Irish Location: Wish I was on the N17...	11. Gramercy Tavern, New York 18. Jean Georges, New York 24. The Ivy, London 28. The Cliff, Barbados 35. Spago, Los Angeles 40. Balthazar, New York I've been to these and by far the most memorable for me was the Gramercy Tavern in New York City. I loved this place but that's probably got as much to do with the company that particular evening (and maybe more the after prom - if ya get my drift) than for the actual meal. Outside of that the only other place that stands out is The Cliff in Barbados but that's because of the ambiance/atmosphere. It's right on the water and I had the best surf & turf combo. I think the fish was grouper and the beef was two fold: an 8 oz filet mignon and a single braised short rib. Absolutely fabulous! The others were all good but in the grand scheme of things -- as the original poster mentioned perhaps a pizza is just as good depending on circumstance and company. __________________ What are you willing to give up in order to get what you want?

09-10-2004, 08:18 PM	#9 (permalink)
Kabootarjaja Upright	been to bukhara in new delhi -- it's super food, but "best asian restaurant" ? I doubt it. You can find much better food/atmosphere in Delhi itself, and that's just one city in one country in Asia. Btw, IMO Bukhara is in a whole different league compared to Spago, LA in what really counts -- the food. Not sure how they come up with ratings and how skewed things are towards ambience and the snoot factor. also been to l'atelier in paris (which is in the top 10), and it's snooty and very chic -- food's great (i had steak tartare which was excellent), but again imo bukhara's better. Last edited by Kabootarjaja; 09-10-2004 at 08:29 PM..

08-29-2004, 08:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
RainbowBright Crazy	I've never even been to any of those cities let alone the resturants! One of my favorities here at home is the Daily Planet, Fresno CA. Ask to sit in the back and the ambiance is great. For cheap food I love a cheap burrito from one of the many little burrito places around here.

08-29-2004, 08:32 PM	#3 (permalink)
powerclown Junkie Location: Detroit, MI	Nothing from New Orleans? That ain't right.

09-07-2004, 04:01 PM	#7 (permalink)
kutulu Junkie	you mean the Olive Garden didn't make the list? It's a traveshamockery!

09-07-2004, 07:38 PM	#8 (permalink)
Mephisto2 Junkie	Thanks for this list. Interesting. I personally go by Michelin Stars (at least in Europe), as good indicators. Of course, the only problem with that is they tend to have a western and French cuisine bias. :-) By the way, two months booking for the French Laundry?! Yikes. Mr Mephisto I've been to Tetsuya's and Rockpool in Sydney. Tetsuya's is sublime and extremely expensive, but I don't really like sea-food, so this kinda ruined it for me. Rockpool is very nice, very expensive and very good. Excellent service.