05-17-2005, 04:31 AM | #41 (permalink) | |
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You could almost see the misunderstandings develop in plot situations between humans and Cards which would cause the mutual disrespect to build to levels which were not recoverable. |
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05-17-2005, 04:41 AM | #42 (permalink) | |
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wow. I do like Star Trek, but I am no where nearly as competant as you in review/knowledge! But I do love the temporal distortion plots. They are my favourite mechanism in the serieses (sp? what is the plural for series?). Maybe one of the episodes can explore or cleanup the discrepencies between the ST:Classic Klingons and the ST:All The Rest Klingons. I know the issue was handled tangentally in a couple of dispersed episodes, but it would be nice to have a real resolution. Aslo, I do remember (vaguely) that there was an episode (was it in ST:TNG?) that dealt with the source of the various species in the federation, and why they have a common appearance and the ability to interbreed (wouldn't that make all humanoids the same species?). As I recall, I think that they were on a remote planet on the edge of the galaxy. Maybe Google will provide the answer (google is my version of Deap Thought). OR... you could explain it here in the thread! (yes please!) |
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05-17-2005, 07:03 AM | #43 (permalink) | |
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In a nutshell: Several million years ago one humanoid looking race existed in our galaxy, they explored every region it, developing hugely advanced technology. What they didn't find however was other sentient life forms, so they couldn't share their culture and existance with anyone. What they decided to do was take the basics of their genetic structure and populte the new developing gene pools of primordial worlds with it, hence why lots of different species look similar. They then buggered off elsewhere and left a computer message explaining it all which was found in the TNG episode in question.
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05-17-2005, 07:33 AM | #44 (permalink) |
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Yes, so this would explain the similarity of Humans, Ferengi, Vulcans/Romulans, Tellerites, Klingons, Cardassians, those greek gods guys, Bajorans, Andorians, green Orion Slave Girls, Denobulans, Binars, Talaxians etc etc to each other.
But when they couldn't find any other sentient species, are we to assume that the ones encountered in the series didn't evolve until later? These being species such as the Gorn, Horta etc. Also, where do the Borg fit into the scheme? Did they evolve spontaniously? Or was there a massive Fortran Project scenario played out on some world? Lastly, I would like to know how the Q continuum is to be viewed. Are these the original 'humanoids' who buggered off into a new plane of existance. shedding physical bodies for energy immortality - there was a TNG episode about that too wasn't there? |
05-17-2005, 08:43 AM | #45 (permalink) | |
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According to Q, the Q have always been in existance, the universe was created, and the Q came into existance at the same time. The Q proclaim themselves to be omnipitant, but Quinn stated in a VOY episode that although they seemed to be, they were far from it. The Q arn't an ascended (thats the Gater in me talking ) form of life. Your correct in saying there was a TNG episode about beings evolving to a different form of life. It was quite a good episode too. There isn't a time span as to when different forms of life evolved, all we are told is that the 'first' species didn't find anyone around when they were exploring, so they dumped some genes all over the place so that when they moved on, their species wouldn't be completly lost. The origins of the borg are a mystery so far. There is no borg 'homeworld' as such, only a large space station type thingy in the delta quadrant. The borg have been around for hundreds possibly thousands of years. I do hope we get more info about them. Although they kinda lost their scaryness somewhat, i do love their technology and ships.
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05-17-2005, 10:43 PM | #46 (permalink) | |
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05-18-2005, 03:40 PM | #48 (permalink) |
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[QUOTE=Janey]was it really? I wonder why CityTv packaged it as the finale?[QUOTE]
Because every channel that has shown enterpise has advertised it really badly?
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05-22-2005, 06:43 PM | #49 (permalink) |
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I thought that Enterprise had good bones (cast, characters, design etc...), but they squandered them with too many plots revolving around political wrangling and parallels to current events. If I wanted to watch a show about terrorist attacks, insurgents and treaty negotiations, I could just watch the news.
I look to Sci-Fi for a sense of wonder, but Enterprise never really put the crew into bizarre or truly uncharted territories after the second season. I now get my fix from Doctor Who. It's surpassed all my expectations! |
05-22-2005, 07:03 PM | #50 (permalink) | |
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Enterprise maybe didn't have enough SF layered on top of the morality play.
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05-22-2005, 07:52 PM | #51 (permalink) | |
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Furthermore, Enterprise plots were constantly tied to military heirarchy. Too often the drama was merely about whether to obey orders or not, rather than exploring broader issues. An exception was the episode where they cloned Trip. |
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05-23-2005, 03:40 AM | #52 (permalink) | |
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05-23-2005, 01:20 PM | #54 (permalink) | |
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