docbungle

Well, I just saw it tonight, and I must say...it was just ok. Now, I know these films are based off the books, so they have to follow a certain storyline, but this one was just nowhere near as interesting or exciting as The Borne Identity. I do hope they continue the series though, as every franchise has at least one weak link.

They seemed to spend so much time on the plot that they forgot to give enough screen time to Bourne.

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choskins

Estimated Friday box office take of $19 Mill. That would put it over $50 Mill for the weekend. Extremely strong indeed!

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Ryan

I really enjoyed this movie, just Like i enjoyed the first one. However, Did anyone else feel a couple of the action scenes were hard to follow, with all the quick cuts.

Overall, i thought this movie was still very well done. Can't wait for the next one.

Asuka{eve}

I liked it. I was confused at some parts though.

Destrox

I'm split on even going to see this.

After seeing the first one, and how bad it was compared to the book. (I mean it really shouldnt have had the same title, it was so far from the book.)

I've read all three Ludlum Bourne series books, and to be honest if they mess up this second one I'll never forgive them for ruining one of my all time favorite spy/action books.

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filtherton

Don't expect anything along the lines of the book, except for the names of some of the characters nearly everything is completely different.

I think it was really good. Eomer does a mean brad pitt and bourne is as badass as he is in the books.

philosopherking

I had a hard time following some of the action scenes too, although at the time I attributed it to the fact that I just got contact lenses and my eyes haven't exactly gotten used to them yet. All those cuts and slightly blurred vision didn't mix too well.

DHS

I like the movie, but as with others had a little trouble with some of the action sequances. I definitely think the first was much better, but overrall the movie wasn't bad...

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DonnieBoy

Hey Destrox I argree with you, while the first movie was alright it didn't really follow the book at all. I'll wait to rent the second one on DVD.

I really enjoyed the book series too. Did you see Ludlum wrote a fourth book to the series. I saw it at the book store the other day. Looks good but im gonna reread the first three before picking up the new book.

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Destrox

Ludlum didnt write the 4th one, seeing as the guy no longer lives.

The book was written by Eric Van Lustbader, with respect to the passed away Mr. Ludlum.

I still havnt had a chance to get this one, I will for sure though. Its reviews range from one end to the other, rarely have I seen a middle rating on it. All the more that makes me want to read it.

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soccerchamp76

Movie was simply awesome, I loveed the first one and the second one did not disappoint. 5/5 stars

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wrongfullyaccuzd

I liked the first one better. In fact, this one discouraged me from reading the books like I had planned.

punx1325

Here is my feeling on Supremacy. The Bourne Identity is my absolute favorite movie. When I went to see Supremacy I was sorely disappointed for one reason. THE FUCKING DIRECTING! It would have been a great movie if they didn't shake the camera the entire time! It was like watching home movies. And the car chase scene you would have to see 4 or 5 times just to understand what the hell was going on. I can understand a few shots that are shaky in an action scene. But there literally isn't more than 3 shots in the entire movie that don't jitter or shake. Not to mention they don't on the same shot longer than 3 seconds. The script and acting was good, if you do see it sit in the back. Hopefully, when they make the third one they get a new director.

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sailor

The director of the film loves handheld cameras. It gives things a gritty, lifelike feel. I can certainly see how that could be a problem in many places though.

I havent seen Supremacy yet, but plan on it soon. Hopefully the camerawork doesnt hurt things too much.

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punx1325

The handheld camera idea can be very cool if done correctly and in moderation. But it gets really annoying. It really made me hate this movie. It felt like the cameraman was drunk while making the movie.

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strife

I absolutely completly agree with the last three posts. The handheld camera = uber annoying. The action sequences could have been great, but instead it was just a fury of limbs/cars close up that the sequences were more annoying to watch than enjoy. The director should have utilized some moderation, but imho, overused it waaaaay too much.

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Quadraton

I thought it was a great story. The only thing that got me was all the blurry camera work. I know this is one of the styles used by the director (can't remember his name, too lazy to look it up), so it was all done with a purpose. However, when you're looking for an anchor to hold on to so you can remember what just happened (i.e. visual reference), blurry camera work makes it very difficult. As such, it was difficult to follow the story sometimes.

Spoiler: Favourite scene: When Bourne t-boned that Russian Secret Service agent into the support beam.

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sailor

Handheld camera work isnt always annoying. Remember the opening scenes of Saving Private Ryan, with the gritty, bouncing camera that made you feel like you were right there in the action?

Now that said, it is clearly a tool, and tools must be used where it is appropriate. I havent seen the movie yet, but if it wasnt appropriate, which from what I gather here, it wasnt, then it shouldnt have been used.

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3zos

handhelds would be fine if you didnt have to deal with the 24fps one gets on a film reel; too much lateral jerk for my tastes, good movie otherwise though.

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strife

I also think the trailers didn't do a very good job of portraying what was actually going to happen in the movie. I thought the trailers made it look like Bourne was going to do a whole lot more ass kicking. But he didn't, and that made me a sad panda.

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soccerchamp76

That is the purpose of the trailer: To get people excited about the movie without giving it away. If you rely on the trailer for the plot you would assume the whole movie is about Bourne attacking the CIA.


Spoiler: I believe the Russian was also an assassin, not a Secret Service agent. He used the identity of a SSA to escape the authorities, if I am not mistaken. Still a badass scene though.

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Kadath

Enjoyable. I didn't expect much -- it's an action movie. Some more hand-to-hand fighting would have been nice, and some cuts were a little confusing, but that was to add the feeling of chaos to the scene, so it worked okay. I was sad that Spoiler: Brian "William Stryker" Cox was so obviously going to shoot himself -- a little less predictability in that scene would have been nice but otherwise I was pleased.

Destrox, you have to let it go. Hollywood will never make all fans of the original work completely happy, whether it be a comic, book, previous version of the movie, what have you.

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strife

I have nothing wrong with trailers not giving things away. Unless the movie is quite different than what the trailer depicts. Alas, I am just nitpicking.

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shred_head

I also thought the film was really "jerky" and hard to follow in some places. I said that as I was walking out of the theater. However, I thought some of the acting was terrible. The actress playing that main CIA lady, Landy or whatever her name was, did a lousy job of acting, if you can even call it that. All in all I didn't think it really compared with the Bourne Identity, but it was still a decent movie.

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DonnieBoy

lol i didn't know ludlum was dead...

Speed_Gibson

The best screen version I have seen of this character by far was the 1990 Television miniseries; just rented that on DVD and watched it again last month actually. Matt Damon is too young for the role as described in the books and it had more suspense originally in the literary version.

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todd

I saw it last night. I liked it a lot. I love movies that make you think.
Though I was expecting a bit more action. The TV trailers show nothing but car chases and accidents. The only ones in the movie were the ones they showed in the trailer.

Lwang9276

I must say I saw the movie first in a trio of movies i saw and during Spiderman 2 they showed the trailer for Supremacy and the trailer actually did make the movie look better than it is. The trailer makes it seem like hes out to kick ass like someone said earlier but during the movie it just felt slow and not as fast paced and crazy as the first one. Only part i liked was beginning sniper thing that was nuts.

Doos

I'm with Destrox. My sister and I read the book and loved it way before the movie came out.

We hired it and were so disappointed we didn't even watch the whole thing in one sitting.

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wondash

TFP'rs know what they're talking about! Half the posts on this thread criticized the shaky camera work, and rightly so; it ruined the movie. But I read a bunch of media reviews and almost all of them liked the movie and not a one dinged it for the cinematography. In fact, a couple praised it for the "put you in the action" directing. I doubt those reviewers actual sat through the entire movie. I for one came out with a headache!

Keedo

It was a good movie, but it really diverged from the original script. Bourne, according to the book was not an assassin of a CIA Black Ops Group, but was an elaborate set trap identity used to get to Carlos the Jackel (the terrorist of the 1970s).

To me, the movie was more of the same, anti-CIA and Government attitude that prevades Hollywood.

choskins

I just saw it last night. I thought it was awesome. I wish it had more action though.

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Porkchop

Supposed to be watching this tonight may try something else now thought there would be more action going off the trailers.

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I'll preface this with the fact that I didn't see the first. I thought the movie was average at best. The action sequences were just horrible. Jerky camera motion combined with blurry vision and sped up action equalled a horrible effect.

I like the overall series story line and think Matt Damon was good but overall I'd have to say that it's a movie I would have enjoyed more on cable on a rainy Saturday when nothing else was going on.

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Golgothas

I like the shakey cam, I felt really in the mix of things by it. I think Identity had a bit better car chase scene, although this one was much more insane.

Omar12

I liked the movie, it was good, but the first one was better IMO.

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Quadraton

I would have liked the shaky camera as well, but it was overused in the movie. They should have provided some more stable scenes in between, in order to let the audience regain their focus.

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bltzkriegmcanon

I agree, the "hand-held for realism's sake cam" is good in theory and in practice, but this time it was harshly overused. That was my only gripe about the entire movie.

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Booray

i still need to see this. i thought the first one was pretty good (which says a lot considering i'd read the book within a year or two of seeing the first movie)

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silent_jay

I loved it, what a great movie, and the camera work, loved it, go and see this movie.

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