Return of the King... Confused!
 

I never read the books, hell I never saw the movies until the 2nd one was in the video stores for 6-7 months. I saw a small blurb of Return of the King, so I went and rented the movies and watched them, and saw Return of the King in theatres... but it never hit me till now when I just watched the DVD tonight.

I still am really confused about one thing, at the end, why does Frodo leave Middle Earth? Maybe I missed somthing along the way or somthing, but I still don't understand that part.

EDIT: Does it have somthing to do with the pain his shoulder?

Frodo leave middle earth because his time there is done. With all that he went though and with the burden of the ring, he is not for the world of Hobbiton any longer.

As I understand it, being in possession of the ring for so long changed him. Bilbo has to leave too. Sam wasn't in possession long enough for it to alter him.

Yep, they basicially got it. Frodo never fully recovered from all his wounds, both emotional and physical, and so he could never be fully happy in Middle Earth again. Therefore, he was allowed special passage to the Grey Havens (kinda like Heaven for Middle Earth), along with Bilbo, the other ring bearer. It's true that it didn't alter him. However, he was a ringbearer for a short time, so at the end of his life he was also allowed to join Frodo at the Grey Havens.

I think it's more about actually wearing the ring... hang on... he did wear it in the novel didn't he? Long time ago it was (since I read it)...

Hey, Mr. Deflock, look above, I already answered that question. ;)

He wore it when he went to save Frodo from the Orcs after Shelob's attack.

not quite

the Grey Havens were where they departed from... they were allowed special passage to the Blessed Realm... well not quite, I assume they were allowed to Eressa, but not through the Pelori into Aman

Hey now, I'm trying to keep it simple. ;) Just kidding, I can admit when I've been owned in my Lord of the Rings knowledge, and you just owned me. :p

Owned? Oh, it's "on"!

I think that is a clear breech of "on" etiquette. You can only declare that "it is on" after one party is served and then that party serves the original server. Both parties must be served before a declaration of "on" is allowed.

/south park humor

haha sorry! But Tolkien is the only thing that I'm stellar at in trivia. I didn't mean to come off harsh if I did

:icare:

I remember it as Frodo was too restless, and he didn't feel at home without any other adventures. When he went off with the elves, his body and soul could be at rest- it would let the adventurer part of him die, where in Middle Earth, it was always at unease.

Lamen's terms: He can't have fun in the Shire anymore because the ring fucked him up so bad. So now he's going to heaven.

Legolas and Gimli also end up crossing the sea later.

That sums it up best , well done for an explanation which cuts out the crap and lets everyone understand what is going on.

hrrrrmmmmm....
what to buy, what to buy...

ROTK DVD or Wifes 5 year anniversary present.... damn damn damn they just had to fall in the same week.....

DB

blah guess ROTK will still be there next week

Buy her the DVD as an anniversary present, I'm a fucking genius.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Hey, if it was me, it'd be the best anniversary gift ever. :p