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FaderMonkey · 05-18-2004, 07:26 AM

I really hope this is a fake. Ain't It Cool News posted this. I like this little bit from the article:

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Okay... is it just me, or do you get the feeling Yoda and Obi-Wan are looking at Young Anakin and wondering why he gets to be pretty for all eternity when he was the one who fucked things up in the first place? “Wait... I’d like to look like Ewan McGregor again. Hello? Is this thing on?!”

http://www.aintitcoolnews.com/display.cgi?id=17592

Cynthetiq · 05-18-2004, 07:48 AM

IMO that's fucked to the actor Sebastian Shaw who originally appeared in that footage.

the_marq · 05-18-2004, 08:25 AM

I call fake. Some clever fanboy put this together in PS. Don't get too excited.

FaderMonkey · 05-18-2004, 09:31 AM

I think it's fake too. Yeah, I know Lucas doesn't really seem to have a brain anymore, but why the hell would Anakin look so young while Obi-Wan looks so old? If Lucus really did this, then that means he must have reshot the scene where Luke takes Vader's helmet off. I guess I can't put anything past Lucas though.

Fremen · 05-18-2004, 12:01 PM

Lucas can't be that braindead.

moonstrucksoul · 05-18-2004, 12:26 PM

is that suppose to be annakin?

Cynthetiq · 05-18-2004, 12:34 PM

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Originally posted by Fremen
Lucas can't be that braindead.

while I think the rest of the movies were good enough... how can we overlook the braindeadness of Jar Jar.

FaderMonkey · 05-18-2004, 12:40 PM

I just came across this great article on MSNBC. Thought it was fitting:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4980465

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Can ‘Star Wars: Episode III’ be saved?
Fire Lucas, fire Christensen and resurrect Ed Wood from the grave

By Christopher Bahn
MSNBC contributor
Updated: 8:33 p.m._ET May_17, 2004

We’ve got one more year before George Lucas finishes up his “Star Wars” prequel trilogy with the as-yet-untitled Episode III, and he certainly has his work cut out for him. Not only does he have to resolve the ongoing storylines of “Phantom Menace” and “Attack of the Clones” in such a way as to lead directly into Episode IV, the original 1977 “Star Wars,” but he has to overcome two of the most soul-killingly dull storylines ever put on film. I mean, really — I’ve seen more interesting films on sandwiches I left in my fridge too long. Is there any way for Lucas to salvage the series in a single movie? It would take a great disturbance in the Force, but it’s not impossible.

Hire some real behind-the-scenes talent
Considering that most of the worst ideas in the last two films came from Lucas himself, he might start by handing over the reins to another filmmaker.

It might be difficult to convince Lucas to go along with it, but if necessary Lucas could probably be tricked by telling him that Joseph Campbell is waiting with a documentary crew to massage Lucas’ ego by interviewing him about his wonderful mythic imagination. When Lucas shows up, knock him out, encase him in a block of frozen carbonite and put him out of the way somewhere until the movie is out in theaters.

Give creative control entirely to a new directing and writing team — it almost doesn’t matter who — and tell them to ignore “Phantom Menace” and “Attack of the Clones” entirely. Rethink Episode III as a standalone story with one simple plotline: Anakin Skywalker has just married Padme (who is, unbeknownst to him, pregnant with the twins Luke and Leia who’ll show up in the next film). Seduced by ambition, Anakin leaves behind his wife, his life and even his own name to join the evil Emperor Palpatine as Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith.

It’s a story that lives or dies depending on how skillfully and sensitively a filmmaker can deal with the emotional content, and Lucas is not a filmmaker who appears capable of doing that anymore. Carrie Fisher, Princess Leia in the original trilogy, has said that “When George was directing, he'd only say two things: 'faster' or 'more intense.'” Fire Lucas as director, who has no sense of control over his storyline, encourages flat and affectless acting, and shellacs every scene with such a frenzy of special effects that they assault your senses like a strobe light.

While you’re at it, fire Lucas the writer, who has not come up with a single witty or memorable phrase in the four hours of prequel trilogy out so far. The first trilogy didn’t have this problem: For instance, “The Empire Strikes Back” had the help of the great noir writer Leigh Brackett.

Having better writers would save Lucas from amateurish nonsense like his decision to give Anakin Skywalker the emasculating nickname “Annie.” Perhaps he was planning to have him break out into a rousing chorus of “The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow”?

Or the totally unnecessary invention of microbial “midichlorians” to explain how the mystical Force gives Jedi knights their powers, perhaps the stupidest idea to come out of “Phantom Menace.” And that's really saying something considering all the cringe-inducing, thinly disguised sci-fi rehashes of racial stereotypes like Jar-Jar Binks. Thankfully, the “midichlorian” concept quietly dropped from the story in Clones.

Recast Darth Vader
Is this a face of a ferocious space villain?
Alfred Hitchcock’s dictum that “the more successful the villain, the more successful the picture” is of primary importance to Episode III, since the rise of Darth Vader is the heart of the story. Lucas has already done more than enough work on another Hitchcock maxim, “Always make the audience suffer as much as possible.”

Fire Hayden Christensen, whose single emotive capacity is sullen petulance, and whose attempts to put on the magisterial rage that must become Darth Vader’s hallmark instead sound like a tenth-grader whose dad won’t let him borrow the car. This is essentially the story of a guy who becomes Space Hitler, which is already hard enough to get people to take seriously without casting a scowly teen. And cut off that stupid-looking ponytail too, for crying out loud.

Clear out the dead wood
While you’re at it get rid of Natalie Portman, who as Queen Amidala has all the regal presence of a mallrat shopping at her local Fashion Bug. Keep Samuel Jackson, Frank Oz, Anthony Daniels, and Ian McDiarmid, and thank your lucky stars that you’ve got Christopher Lee, who’s been showcasing his considerable talent in Z-grade horror flicks for decades and knows better than perhaps any living actor how to pull a terrific performance out of truly awful material. Tell Ewan Macgregor, who’s proven elsewhere he’s a fine actor, that it’s safe to come out and emote now. Fire everyone else.

Hire Ed Wood
In many ways, “Phantom” and “Clones” were the answer to the unasked question “What would the director of ‘Plan 9 From Outer Space’ have done with a talented effects crew and a $200 million budget?” Well then, why not bring Ed Wood back from the grave to direct Episode III? Sure, it’s a farfetched idea, but it’s easier to swallow than “midichlorians.” We can see it now: Darth Vader develops a sudden fetish for angora sweaters, and mocks people who fall for his Jedi mind tricks with “See! It’s your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!”

Rip off more Kurosawa
It’s no slur on the genuinely great first “Star Wars” that much of the plotline and characterization was lifted straight out of Akira Kurosawa’s “The Hidden Fortress.” Reusing older plotlines is a terrific way to shore up the fact that you have no interesting plots of your own. And after all, the extremely talented Kurosawa dipped into Shakespeare’s well of ideas more than once — and Shakespeare himself lifted many of his plots from earlier plays. For Episode III, rip off Kurosawa’s ripoff of Shakespeare’s “Macbeth,” and retell the “Throne of Blood” storyline as Darth Vader’s journey into evil.

Parody the whole concept
Maybe the best thing to do would be to get Anakin to embrace the Dark Side as quickly as possible, perhaps by forcing him to confront some terrible disappointment that will haunt him for the rest of his days. We suggest this two-line scene set in a Coruscant restaurant:

WAITER: Here’s your green salad, sir.
ANAKIN: What? You fool, I told you NO CROUTONS! Aaaaaaargh!

Anakin puts on his black helmet and storms off to his local county clerk’s office and fills out the paperwork to have his name legally changed to “Darth Annie Vader.” (He later quietly drops the middle name, realizing it doesn’t help his macho image.) And then for the next two hours, it’s all special-effects spaceship battles, which is the real reason most of us will go to the theater anyway. Fade to black.

Fremen · 05-18-2004, 01:34 PM

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Originally posted by FaderMonkey
I just came across this great article on MSNBC. Thought it was fitting:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4980465

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“Darth Annie Vader.”

*snicker*

That's some writing.

Thanks for the funny and oh-so-true article, FaderMonkey.

Hrothgar · 05-18-2004, 03:51 PM

That MSNBC article is dead on. Episodes I and II fall clearly short of the greatness of the earlier films.

Mr.Deflok · 05-18-2004, 10:08 PM

BULLSHIT. Why isn't Obi-Wan Ewan McGregor there? LOAD OF SHIT.

Ace_O_Spades · 05-18-2004, 10:35 PM

ive never gotten such a kick out of an article as that one... thank you very much for sharing

Mr.Deflok · 05-19-2004, 01:35 AM

Jadedfox · 05-19-2004, 06:49 AM

AICN is so full of crap that...well it's fake.

--jaded

flamingdog · 05-19-2004, 12:57 PM

Space Hitler... still laughing.

Vizzini · 05-19-2004, 01:47 PM

Wow that article was harsh.But I gotta say I think pretty much the same way. In many ways I really wish Lucas never decided to make the prequel trilogy.

grayman · 05-20-2004, 08:44 PM

Right on the money Vizzini.

Rubyee · 05-21-2004, 04:08 AM

The biggest problem this prequel has is the assocition to the original Star Wars series- the original was wonderful, great, and marvelous, where compared to it, the prequel just gets an "eh". If this prequel wasn't based on such a great film accomplishment, it wouldn't be that bad.

What he needs to do to save this is either make it a comedy so that we are all laughing WITH him instead of at him, or have only about 15 minutes of new film and go directly into A New Hope. But by comedy, I don't mean the return of Jar Jar Binks. I mean Spaceballs-ish.

Really, though, there isn't much he can do to save himself. He needed to stick with low-key actors, like in 4-6, and maybe even dumb down the special effects. The reason 4-6 were so appealing were because they looked realistic- like it could actually be going on. He took out the realism.

For many counts, I feel the article was right on.

Moobie · 05-21-2004, 07:41 AM

Why do you think that Episode 4 is called "A New Hope"?

I feel sorry for the kids of today. Atleast I grew up in a world where Star Wars was cool.

I'm hoping that Ep III will star Howard the Duck. That could have some promise.

Mr.Deflok · 05-21-2004, 03:31 PM

Star Wars for kids today IS cool, just like it was cool when you saw the originals.

Redjake · 05-21-2004, 04:14 PM

HAHAHA SPACE HITLER

bundy · 05-21-2004, 11:23 PM

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Originally posted by Moobie
I feel sorry for the kids of today. Atleast I grew up in a world where Star Wars was cool.

I'm hoping that Ep III will star Howard the Duck. That could have some promise.

nice one

Gjefflin · 05-22-2004, 08:53 AM

It's TOTALLY a fake. Exactly for the reasons above. He doesn't die until Episode 6 so how can he be young?

Mr.Deflok · 05-22-2004, 12:42 PM

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Originally posted by Gjefflin
It's TOTALLY a fake. Exactly for the reasons above. He doesn't die until Episode 6 so how can he be young?

They're saying he dies as a good guy in Episode III and Vader is born, kinda makes sense but I'll be damned it Sebastian Shaw gets replaced.

Baldrick · 05-22-2004, 04:24 PM

I feel bad about it, but I just don't care anymore. Lucas has screwed up this once mighty franchise to the point that I'll be doing what I once thought unthinkable... I have no interest in purchasing the DVD's later this year. He can turn Jabba into E.T. for all I care.

FaderMonkey · 06-01-2004, 12:51 PM

Well, I still don't believe that picture is real, but here's a small bit from TheDigitalBits.com rumor mill talking about it:

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/rumormill.html

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Also this morning, I imagine by now many of you have seen the altered Return of the Jedi DVD screen shot posted yesterday over on Ain't it Cool News. While some sources are still hedging their bets... yes, we can confirm that this is authentic. It IS one of many changes that are being made to the original Star Wars films for the September 21st DVD release.

We've been saying for months now that there were going to be changes made to these films for DVD, and while many believed us, a number of Star Wars fans have e-mailed to say we must be on crack. Nevertheless, believe it or not, we know for a FACT that several more changes are being made to these films. Trust us on this - our contacts are in positions to know. Like it or not, the films we will get on DVD on 9/21 are NOT going to be the original theatrical versions and they're not going to be the 1997 special editions either. Even Lucasfilm's Steve Sansweet has confirmed this, saying at the recent WonderCon convention that the films contained on the discs would be the incarnations of the films "as George Lucas sees them today."

World's King · 06-01-2004, 01:27 PM

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Originally posted by Fremen
Lucas can't be that braindead.

Yeah... but he is.

It's still fake.

Kazic · 06-01-2004, 08:46 PM

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Originally posted by Cynthetiq
while I think the rest of the movies were good enough... how can we overlook the braindeadness of Jar Jar.

: 0 hahah

Anyway the idea of Darth Vader as a scrawny punk kid is retarded.
Darth Vader is a huge menacing crazy wizard. Seriously disturbed. How can Anakin turn to Vader? They better make it good or I , yes me a huge starwars fan will deny Lucas my $10 and send him a check for my time instead.

primal · 06-02-2004, 07:23 PM

Maybe they should change Vaders Color from black to pink. Since they obviously want to ruin the classic movies so that the new ones don't look as bad in comparison.

FaderMonkey · 09-10-2004, 08:25 AM

Well, it looks like they did indeed change this scene for the DVD. Here are the shots:

old shot:

new shot:

old shot:

new shot:

You can see other changes here:
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/review...changes02.html
http://www.thedigitalbits.com/review...rschanges.html

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http://www.thedigitalbits.com/review...rstrilogy.html

Finally (and this is a big one), when the Force ghosts of Ben, Yoda and Anakin appear to Luke at the very end of the film, actor Sebastian Shaw has been replaced with Hayden Christensen (as he'll appear in Episode III). That's going to piss off a lot of fans, but it makes sense. I suspect the rational is that a Jedi's Force ghost is frozen in appearance at the exact moment of his or her death. Since Anakin Skywalker basically ceases to exist in Episode III (becoming Darth Vader), his ghost remained at that age. Yeah, it's a stretch, but hey... within the logic of the universe, it does make sense. Like it or not.

Yeah, I guess that makes sense, but I still don't like it.

World's King · 09-10-2004, 10:14 AM

Doesn't Lucas understand that the more you fuck with something the more fucked it gets?

Baldrick · 09-10-2004, 10:19 AM

Lucas is a genius (just ask him), never question a genius!

Fremen · 09-10-2004, 12:30 PM

They should've put him on lifts!

What'd he do, shrink too??

guthmund · 09-10-2004, 02:17 PM

I swear to god....

Mr.Deflok · 09-10-2004, 04:11 PM

I love the shit out of Star Wars and don't mind any of the changes at all, this one however it a little strange, I would've prefered that Anakin became who he was in spirit at the time of his redemption. It is a nice idea Lucas has but I've always been fond of Shaw and Anakin.

Still can't wait for the DVD's!!!

Kostya · 09-10-2004, 06:03 PM

Well I could perhaps forgive George Lucas for his recent crimes based on his earlier greatness, but he's gone too far this time! A pox on him and all his works...

Please let an anvil fall from the sky onto him...

Gortexfogg · 09-11-2004, 07:50 AM

Why did he change that scene? I can't imagine what other oddball things have been tweaked in the movies. I liked it before, it made perfect sense for the ghost to be of the form a Jedi died in... but whatever floats Lucas's boat I guess...

At least I still have the original trilogy on VHS...

Moobie · 09-11-2004, 10:24 AM

Is it too late to get a Power of Attorney? I think George needs someone to look after him.

Hayden Christensen still looks like smug little punk in those images. Apparently it pays to go to the Dark Side. Not only do you get to do a bunch of evil stuff, which is far more fun than the restrictions that a Jedi has to deal with, but as long as you're redeemed before you die, you get to go back to your young body for the rest of eternity. A win win situation.

Whoo whoo! Go Dark Side.

divagrrrl · 09-11-2004, 12:05 PM

After reading this thread I think I am gonna be sick. What a fucking disappointment.

I am so glad I have the original unaltered trilogy on VHS. Hay... maybe i'll watch them today! Got nothing pressing that needs to be done...

Dwayne · 09-12-2004, 01:59 PM

I dont think that they would be on Endor in the last movie.

05-18-2004, 07:48 AM	#2 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	IMO that's fucked to the actor Sebastian Shaw who originally appeared in that footage. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

05-18-2004, 08:25 AM	#3 (permalink)
the_marq All hail the Mountain King Location: Black Mesa	I call fake. Some clever fanboy put this together in PS. Don't get too excited. __________________ The Truth: Johnny Cash could have kicked Bruce Lee's ass if he wanted to. #3 in a series

05-18-2004, 12:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	Lucas can't be that braindead. __________________ Google

05-18-2004, 12:26 PM	#6 (permalink)
moonstrucksoul hovering in the distance Location: the land of milk and honey	is that suppose to be annakin? __________________ no signature required

05-18-2004, 03:51 PM	#10 (permalink)
Hrothgar He's My Girl Location: The Champagne Douche	That MSNBC article is dead on. Episodes I and II fall clearly short of the greatness of the earlier films. __________________ The fortunes of war favored Hrothgar.

05-18-2004, 09:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
FaderMonkey Psycho Location: Orlando, FL	I think it's fake too. Yeah, I know Lucas doesn't really seem to have a brain anymore, but why the hell would Anakin look so young while Obi-Wan looks so old? If Lucus really did this, then that means he must have reshot the scene where Luke takes Vader's helmet off. I guess I can't put anything past Lucas though.

05-18-2004, 10:08 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	BULLSHIT. Why isn't Obi-Wan Ewan McGregor there? LOAD OF SHIT.

05-18-2004, 10:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	ive never gotten such a kick out of an article as that one... thank you very much for sharing __________________ Feh.

05-19-2004, 01:35 AM	#13 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand

05-19-2004, 06:49 AM	#14 (permalink)
Jadedfox Egocentric Location: World of Warcraft	AICN is so full of crap that...well it's fake. --jaded __________________ There is no fucking you, there is only me.

05-19-2004, 12:57 PM	#15 (permalink)
flamingdog Still fighting it.	Space Hitler... still laughing.

05-19-2004, 01:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
Vizzini Addict Location: Vancouver, BC	Wow that article was harsh.But I gotta say I think pretty much the same way. In many ways I really wish Lucas never decided to make the prequel trilogy. __________________ Inconceivable!

05-20-2004, 08:44 PM	#17 (permalink)
grayman you can't see me Location: Illinois	Right on the money Vizzini. __________________ That's right - I'm a guy in a suit eating a Blizzard. F U.

05-21-2004, 04:08 AM	#18 (permalink)
Rubyee I'm baaaaack!	The biggest problem this prequel has is the assocition to the original Star Wars series- the original was wonderful, great, and marvelous, where compared to it, the prequel just gets an "eh". If this prequel wasn't based on such a great film accomplishment, it wouldn't be that bad. What he needs to do to save this is either make it a comedy so that we are all laughing WITH him instead of at him, or have only about 15 minutes of new film and go directly into A New Hope. But by comedy, I don't mean the return of Jar Jar Binks. I mean Spaceballs-ish. Really, though, there isn't much he can do to save himself. He needed to stick with low-key actors, like in 4-6, and maybe even dumb down the special effects. The reason 4-6 were so appealing were because they looked realistic- like it could actually be going on. He took out the realism. For many counts, I feel the article was right on. __________________ You don't know from fun.

05-21-2004, 07:41 AM	#19 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	Why do you think that Episode 4 is called "A New Hope"? I feel sorry for the kids of today. Atleast I grew up in a world where Star Wars was cool. I'm hoping that Ep III will star Howard the Duck. That could have some promise. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

05-21-2004, 04:14 PM	#21 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	HAHAHA SPACE HITLER __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

05-21-2004, 03:31 PM	#20 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Star Wars for kids today IS cool, just like it was cool when you saw the originals.

05-22-2004, 08:53 AM	#23 (permalink)
Gjefflin Insane Location: New York	It's TOTALLY a fake. Exactly for the reasons above. He doesn't die until Episode 6 so how can he be young?

05-22-2004, 04:24 PM	#25 (permalink)
Baldrick We are everywhere... Location: Barrie, Ontario	I feel bad about it, but I just don't care anymore. Lucas has screwed up this once mighty franchise to the point that I'll be doing what I once thought unthinkable... I have no interest in purchasing the DVD's later this year. He can turn Jabba into E.T. for all I care. __________________ You can be young only once, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

06-02-2004, 07:23 PM	#29 (permalink)
primal Crazy Location: Oklahoma City	Maybe they should change Vaders Color from black to pink. Since they obviously want to ruin the classic movies so that the new ones don't look as bad in comparison. __________________ "Where the white women at?" -Sheriff Bart (Blazing Saddles)

09-10-2004, 10:14 AM	#31 (permalink)
World's King Here Location: Denver City Denver	Doesn't Lucas understand that the more you fuck with something the more fucked it gets? __________________ heavy is the head that wears the crown Last edited by The Original King; 09-10-2004 at 10:28 AM..

09-10-2004, 10:19 AM	#32 (permalink)
Baldrick We are everywhere... Location: Barrie, Ontario	Lucas is a genius (just ask him), never question a genius! __________________ You can be young only once, but you can be immature for the rest of your life...

09-10-2004, 12:30 PM	#33 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	They should've put him on lifts! What'd he do, shrink too?? __________________ Google

09-10-2004, 02:17 PM	#34 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	I swear to god.... __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

09-10-2004, 04:11 PM	#35 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	I love the shit out of Star Wars and don't mind any of the changes at all, this one however it a little strange, I would've prefered that Anakin became who he was in spirit at the time of his redemption. It is a nice idea Lucas has but I've always been fond of Shaw and Anakin. Still can't wait for the DVD's!!!

09-10-2004, 06:03 PM	#36 (permalink)
Kostya Little known... Location: Brisbane, Australia	Well I could perhaps forgive George Lucas for his recent crimes based on his earlier greatness, but he's gone too far this time! A pox on him and all his works... Please let an anvil fall from the sky onto him...

09-11-2004, 07:50 AM	#37 (permalink)
Gortexfogg I and I Location: Stillwater, OK	Why did he change that scene? I can't imagine what other oddball things have been tweaked in the movies. I liked it before, it made perfect sense for the ghost to be of the form a Jedi died in... but whatever floats Lucas's boat I guess... At least I still have the original trilogy on VHS...

09-11-2004, 10:24 AM	#38 (permalink)
Moobie Insane Location: baked beans	Is it too late to get a Power of Attorney? I think George needs someone to look after him. Hayden Christensen still looks like smug little punk in those images. Apparently it pays to go to the Dark Side. Not only do you get to do a bunch of evil stuff, which is far more fun than the restrictions that a Jedi has to deal with, but as long as you're redeemed before you die, you get to go back to your young body for the rest of eternity. A win win situation. Whoo whoo! Go Dark Side. __________________ Obscenity is the crutch of inarticulate motherfuckers. We like money. Give us your money you stupid consumer whore.

09-11-2004, 12:05 PM	#39 (permalink)
divagrrrl Crazy Location: SoCal	After reading this thread I think I am gonna be sick. What a fucking disappointment. I am so glad I have the original unaltered trilogy on VHS. Hay... maybe i'll watch them today! Got nothing pressing that needs to be done...

09-12-2004, 01:59 PM	#40 (permalink)
Dwayne Crazy Location: New England	I dont think that they would be on Endor in the last movie.