Quake 10.5

Anyone intrigued about the upcomming miniseries/movie?
Starting May 2 on NBC. It's about a massive earthquake that effects the whole west coast, from Seattle to San Diego. Something that's been predicted for thousands of years.
Starring:

Kim Delaney (NYPD Blue) as Dr. Samantha Hill, an intellectual earthquake expert put to the ultimate test: saving the West Coast from the biggest earthquake ever recorded. Emmy and Golden Globe winner Beau Bridges co-stars along with Ivan Sergei (Crossing Jordan), Dulé Hill (The West Wing), John Schneider (Smallville), Kaley Cuoco (8 Simple Rules..) and Fred Ward (Sweet Home Alabama).

LINK
You have to check out the page for it at the link above- very.....creative!

[Speed_Gibson]

ugh. Another site requiring Windows Media Player -> exit stage left.

[Mr.Deflok]

Originally posted by Speed_Gibson
ugh. Another site requiring Windows Media Player -> exit stage left.

pwned but true.

[Moobie]

Does anyone remember another TV miniseries called "The Big One"? It was back in the mid nineties. Same crap. I love how American TV is made to scare the crap out of everyone. Like people aren't hysterical enough already.

[Averett]

Originally posted by Moobie
Does anyone remember another TV miniseries called "The Big One"? It was back in the mid nineties. Same crap. I love how American TV is made to scare the crap out of everyone. Like people aren't hysterical enough already.

I don't remember that minisearies, but I agree with your thoughts. I hate this crap.

But I'm sure it'll be entertaining if you enjoy seeing shit like that. To each their own.

[rodb]

I hate the title of this show or whatever. You would think that the smartest people in the world, television executives, would know the richter scale has a vertical asymptote at 10.

[Moobie]

I think that's the point. It's like having an amp with a volume setting of 11.

[rodb]

I understand that that's the point, but still I think it's a stupid point.

wow- interesting to see the reactions of others on this.

I have always been fascinated with natural disasters, it kind of scares me, but it's always good to be really aware of anything that can happen.
10.5 can happen- it's been predicted since the days of Socrates.
It's not a matter of if, but when.
As far as the series, here, it looks rather intense with graphics and espeically since our Space Needle goes down. Not that that would make me happy, but the power of nature is amazing. Sad that it destroys and kills, but it's really the power of human creation. A collective consciousness of fear stirs events like this into our reality.

[elfstar]

Originally posted by :::OshnSoul:::

10.5 can happen- it's been predicted since the days of Socrates.

I find this hard to believe this since Socrates died hundreds of years before Richter was born.

[Fremen]

Atomic Twister

I remembered this stinking pile of dung when I read this thread.

I agree, nature is fascinating, but these shows really go overboard.

[djtestudo]

I just can't wait for the 11 o'clock news that night.

"What are the chances of an earthquake like this hitting the Baltimore-Washington region? We talk with important siesmologists to find the answer. Tonight, after the movie."

[Kadath]

Looks dumb as shit. At least it's better than the 9-11 TV movie that was on last Sunday. Disaster movies are always bad, and TV disaster movies are the worst.

Originally posted by elfstar
I find this hard to believe this since Socrates died hundreds of years before Richter was born.

I wasn't saying the actual Richter mark, I am speaking of the predicted earthquake(s) that would effect the whole west coast.

[BigGov]

I can't find the link, but there is a geological group that has been predicting massive earthquakes with (relative) extreme accuracy (about a 6 month window). The last one they predicted was the earthquake in Tokyo. Their latest prediction has been the "big one" sometime this spring or summer.

[goddfather40]

The movie is not factually based, that is for sure. But it is a movie and should be taken with a grain of salt. That being said:

First off, an earthquake from San Diego to Seattle is impossible. Sure the North American and Pacific plate boundary extends that length, but it is really not the same earthquake fault all the way though. The San Andreas goes from the Salton Sea to off the coast near Pt. Reyes, north of San Fran. On top of that, the San Andreas is a strike slip fault (lateral movement), while the plate boundary near the Washington area is a subduction zone (one plate going under the other). I don't see how they could coincide in a big quake. By the way the largest quake in recorded history is in the mid 9's in Chile.

[elfstar]

An article which corroborates much of what has already been said in this thread:

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...isure_quake_dc

Scientists, Government Decry NBC Miniseries '10.5'
Fri Apr 30, 9:50 AM ET

By Ben Berkowitz

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - An aide crashes into the White House basketball court, breathlessly telling the sweating leader of the free world: "Mr. President, there's been an earthquake in Seattle."


Reuters Photo



"How bad is it?"

"The Space Needle has collapsed."

That's so bad that NBC is betting that its May sweeps week disaster mini-series "10.5" starting Sunday for two nights will prove fatal to the competition despite a groundswell of grumbles from critics who say they haven't seen and heard so many cliches assembled under one roof in years.

And scientists are also not happy: they call the whole thing blarney from beginning to end.

"An old-fashioned disaster yarn so ripe with sincerity George Kennedy (news) ought to be in it,'10.5' features a whole lot of shaking and over-acting," says Daily Variety.

Californians spend a lot of time worrying about the "Big One" -- an earthquake so powerful that the whole West Coast begins to break off and float into the Pacific Ocean.

NBC calls such a scenario entertainment, but California officials and academics call it bad science -- and they want the public to be forewarned.

Starring Beau Bridges as the president of the United States and Kim Delaney (news) as a scientist tasked with saving the country from literally going to pieces, "10.5" is one of the network's biggest events of the year and is being advertised heavily on its regular schedule.

But those in charge of protecting the public when earthquakes do happen are unhappy with what they have seen of the miniseries so far, including commercials that feature icons like the Hollywood sign or the Golden Gate Bridge crumbling.

"The first step in being prepared is understanding that Hollywood's upcoming earthquake miniseries puts myth, fantasy and entertainment before factual science," Dallas Jones, head of California's Governor's Office of Emergency Services, said.

NO RELATION TO SCIENCE

Dr. Lucy Jones, the U.S. Geological Survey (news - web sites)'s scientist-in-charge for southern California, laughed when asked how probable or not the movie's themes were.

"It's complete science fantasy. There is nothing in it that's connected to reality," said Jones, who has screened the miniseries. "It's very clear that no scientists were consulted in the making of the movie." But the model makers were-- lots and lots of replicas of California landmarks bite the dust.

The producers do not deny that the movie takes dramatic license when it comes to the science of earthquakes and stress that it was never intended to be factual in the first place.

"It's an event motion picture," Gary Pearl, one of the executive producers of "10.5," told Reuters recently. "Our goal wasn't to teach people about earthquakes, our goal was to excite and thrill an audience."

The networks are no strangers to disaster movies, which tend to draw big audiences, nor are they unused to the controversy that surrounds such films.



Examples abound, including the furor over ABC's nuclear holocaust drama "The Day After" in 1983, which was seen as too graphic but drew a record-setting audience; and CBS's 1999 New York earthquake movie, "Aftershock," which was criticized as being disturbingly detailed.

But Pearl, whose childhood nightmares were the inspiration for the movie, said "10.5" is not about reality, but rather about escapism. "The film is meant to entertain people ... the events in it, hopefully they can't happen," he said.

[CSflim]

woah! Already? Whatever happened to Quake 4,5,6,7,8 and 9?

[Hrothgar]

I can smell the cheese from here. Is Ernest Borgnine in it?

[matteo101]

Im going to try and tune in just to see what its all about. I really like mini series'. They have a larger budget then a tv show, and develop the story alot better than 2-3 hour movies. Regardless of how unrealistic this is, it will probably scare the hell out of so many people especially on the west coast.

[Batman976]

I might watch this if it weren't on at the same time as The Sopranos.

[CSflim]

Sounds...um......great.

[matteo101]

Tuned in for the first 10 minutes. After the first scene with the guy riding his bike with the fake earthquake background, I just couldn't stand to watch it. The split screems, seemed so much like 24, and the acting was terrible. Anyone watch it, maybe it was better than I thought.

[Fremen]

I turned back and forth to it from Malcolm In The Middle, until it showed the ground collapsing, seemingly chasing a speeding train down the tracks. It seemed like it went on for miles.
It just looked so stupid.

[shakran]

Originally posted by Moobie
I think that's the point. It's like having an amp with a volume setting of 11.

I had one in the 80's with a volume setting of 30. It was actually advertised to be much louder BECAUSE it went to 30 instead of only 10. I'm surprised it didn't spark a dial-markings arms race.

Originally posted by rodb
I hate the title of this show or whatever. You would think that the smartest people in the world, television executives, would know the richter scale has a vertical asymptote at 10.

Not really. It's a logarithmic scale, which means that it eventually approaches vertical but never actually is vertical. Theoretically, an r15 earthquake is possible, but of course it's never gonna happen - - only 3 or so earthquakes in recorded history were 9 or greater. 9 on the richter scale, btw, is a "total destruction" earthquake - -shit gets thrown in the air, nothing's left, it's like a nuclear bomb went off.

oh, and the movie? It's stupidity is only eclipsed by it's stupidity. The dialog sucks, the plot sucks, the effects suck. It's actually worse than Twister. At least in Twister you had the one realistic scene (cooking the ham and eggs

[animosity]

i saw this movie(or listened to it) while i was drawing. you can not expect much from a tv movie. you can not expect much from a disaster movie. with that in mind, id say the movie was not horrable.

[PulpMind]

blah blah...
1) it seems to me to be a huge rip off of the upcomming "Day After Tomorrow" film heading to theaters...
2) the Space Needle can not fall down. it's built extremely well and would just shake ALOT during a quake. moreso, it's center of gravity is way below the middle, so if it *were* to ever be tipped over, it would just bounce back up (like those inflatable punching bags)

that's all

[BDozer]

Whoever was the Director of Photography...needs to have his ass fired for the overuse of quick zooms, shaky cam effect, and needlessly jerky panning. Also the split screen...only works on 24. Any other show that uses it...it's an automatic copy and thus a cheap failure.

Too much attention put into sappy 'personal' crap. Don't get me wrong, not all emotional cinematic moments are sappy crap. But this was. Good thing 'Unbreakable' was on (The Village seems like something I HAVE to watch). Even the much touted effect wasn't much, cause if you've watch the trailer for this mini-series, you watched all the good effect scenes.

[Lokus]

Originally posted by BDozer
Whoever was the Director of Photography...needs to have his ass fired for the overuse of quick zooms, shaky cam effect, and needlessly jerky panning.

Maybe he just wanted to convey what it feels like to be in an earthquake. /sarcasm

[Cynthetiq]

damn... missed it. it got high neilsens... but i guess it wasn't all that good. i'm glad i didn't waste my time or tivo space.

[NbCal]

The first part wasn't that bad I thought, it was entertaining enough to get me to watch the second part. Part 2 however was absolutely horrible. There was a 30 or so minute scene that was an almost exact replica of the end of the movie Armageddon.

[fnaqzna]

Originally posted by :::OshnSoul:::
wow- interesting to see the reactions of others on this.

I have always been fascinated with natural disasters, it kind of scares me, but it's always good to be really aware of anything that can happen.
10.5 can happen- it's been predicted since the days of Socrates.
It's not a matter of if, but when.
As far as the series, here, it looks rather intense with graphics and espeically since our Space Needle goes down. Not that that would make me happy, but the power of nature is amazing. Sad that it destroys and kills, but it's really the power of human creation. A collective consciousness of fear stirs events like this into our reality.

I'd have to do some checking, but I'm pretty sure that most if not all cultures/religions have some sort of end of the world scenario.

Whether they made the story up yesterday or 5,000 years ago doesn't make it true.

[cherriesue]

I thought everything about this show was awful (I only watched the first part)

[Kadath]

Link to what was wrong with the show.

It's pretty long, but here are the first few.

FICTION: There can be a magnitude 10.5 earthquake


FACT: The magnitude of an earthquake is related to the length of the fault on which it occurs--the longer the fault, the larger the earthquake. In order to have a magnitude 10.5 earthquake you would have to have a fault that circles the Earth - no such fault exists.


The largest earthquake ever recorded was a M(w) 9.5 on May 22, 1960 in Chile. This occurred on a fault that is almost 1,000 miles (1600 kilometers) long. The earthquake ruptured along the entire length of the fault.


The largest earthquake in the United States occurred in Alaska on March 27th, 1964 and was a magnitude M(w) 9.2. This earthquake ruptured 620 miles (1,000 km) of the Alaska-Aleutian fault megathrust, which is 2240 miles (3600 km) long.


For comparison, the San Andreas Fault is only 800 miles (1290 km) long. The longest rupture on the San Andreas Fault was 250 miles (400 km) during the 1906 earthquake.



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FICTION: California will split apart from the rest of the United States and become an island/Oceanfront property in Barstow


FACT: California is split by a transform plate boundary separating the Pacific plate from the North American plate. This means that the land west of the San Andreas fault is sliding northwest past the rest of the United States, towards San Francisco. This sliding does not create any space between the two plates for water to fill in. Just like if you rub your hands together, your hands are sliding past each other, but there is no space opening up in between them.

In fact, because there is a bend in the San Andreas Fault, the land on both sides of the fault (at the bend) are actually converging and getting closer together. This is what caused the formation of the Transverse Ranges, mountains to the northeast of the Los Angeles basin. The 1994 Northridge earthquake (M 6.7) is an example of an earthquake caused by this convergence.

Independent of plate motion, Barstow is at an elevation of over 2100 feet (640 meters). This means that the ocean water would have to travel significantly uphill to even reach Barstow.

So there will be no oceanfront property in Barstow or anywhere else in central California.

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FICTION: The earth will open and swallow a train, my car, my town, or me


FACT: A popular literary device is a fault that opens during an earthquake to swallow up an inconvenient character. But unfortunately for principled writers, gaping faults exist only in movies and novels. The ground moves across a fault during an earthquake, not away from it. If the fault could open, there would be no friction. Without friction, there would be no earthquake. Shallow crevasses can form during earthquake-induced landslides, lateral spreads, or other types of ground failures. Faults, however, do not open up during an earthquake.

[Rodney]

I watched both nights. It fell into the "It's so bad, it's good" category. I actually laughed out loud in a few places, and of course it wasn't _supposed_ to be a comedy. Beau Bridges was hilarious as president. So is the idea of setting off a nuclear weapon in Gilroy ("future home of glow-in-the-dark garlic!").

That sequence with the train being chased by the fault was especially hokey. Who was their special effects team -- Lionel?

[streak_56]

I hated it, we had to rate the scientific value for Geo 100.... other than that it was ok