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Piston Honda 05-03-2004 05:50 AM

Anybody watching Deadwood on HBO?
 
I've gotten to the point where I am looking forward to the next Deadwood moreso than the Sopranos.

I can't get enough of Al. I want to dislike the guy, but I can't. He's just so damn charismatic.

E.B. is a hoot, too. For a guy that's supposed to be a stooge, he really gets in some witty zingers and one-liners.

I think that Jane and Charlie are really well done, too.

I hated seeing Wild Bill go, but you knew it was coming. I think Bullock and Swearengen will really shine now that it looks like a direct face-off is coming.

Anybody else loving this show? The writing, the dialogue, the delivery, it's all great.

Fremen 05-03-2004 08:00 AM

Yup, I'm enjoying it myself, as well. :)
You're right about E.B. He gets some witty rejoinders in there with Al when you know he's scared to death of him.
I always liked William Sanderson (E.B.) as an actor.
I like Bullock and his partner and their interaction best, though.

There was already a Deadwood thread made by The Original King.
Maybe one of the mods would be so kind as to merge them as I feel you add to the thread with your thoughtful post, Piston Honda. :)
http://www.tfproject.org/tfp/showthr...light=Deadwood

Btw, is your username named after the Mike Tyson videogame character?

Batman976 05-03-2004 09:14 AM

I love how everytime he makes an offer on the claim, it's just a little bit lower than what Al tells him to make.

By the way, what's the deal with those two kids who came in looking for their father? I thought I heard them say something hinting that they were scamming the bar owners to rob them. Did I hear correctly?

Fremen 05-03-2004 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Batman976
I love how everytime he makes an offer on the claim, it's just a little bit lower than what Al tells him to make.

By the way, what's the deal with those two kids who came in looking for their father? I thought I heard them say something hinting that they were scamming the bar owners to rob them. Did I hear correctly?

I heard it, too. Couple of grifters maybe. Probably not even bro and sis.
Should be interesting.

Piston Honda 05-03-2004 12:39 PM

I found that other thread after I posted this one... sorry 'bout that.

As for the boy and the girl... I was taking a phone call during the little exchange between the two kids, but they definitely said "Let's take them both" or something like that. Plus the preview for next week's show made it look like Tolliver had caught onto something.

And yeah, I always thought Piston Honda was an underrated Punch-Out character, with his eyebrow wiggle move and all.:suave:

cherriesue 05-04-2004 07:31 PM

I think the show is good but I think it's ridiculous to have all of that swearing in a show set in the old west. It takes me out of what's happening in the show and has me focused on the swearing.

Lestat 05-04-2004 08:28 PM

Great show. Makes me look at the old west in a whole new way. Swearengen makes that show.

cameroncrazy822 05-05-2004 07:19 AM

This is definitely another HBO hit. Al is absolutely the show with many other characters who are also very interesting. I like the western background though because it's a fresh take on that time and that place. I'm a bit sick of the 50s cookie cutter antiseptic westerns. Very predictable and very unrealistic. Deadwood is a keeper and will catch on, I promise.

simonrex22 05-05-2004 07:35 AM

I thought the show started out slow but it is definitely turning into one of my favorites. I actually liked the killing of Wild Bill. It added so much drama, plus i hated the actor.

I thought it was great how in the last episode they foreshadowed the nickname Calamity Jane. Some dude was talking to Jane and he mentioned the town of Calamity. They never said officially that it was Calamity Jane, but the first episode i knew it was her.

Al Swearengen is definitely the star of the show. I cant get enough of him saying "cocksucker". He must say it at least ten times a show.

I definitely think the bro and sis are planning some kind of heist. They made it pretty obvious.

Ive heard other people say that they dont like the fact that they are using real historical people, but i think this is what will make the show all the more better. Wild Bill is dead, and i dont think Calamity Jane is going to stick around. She has to go earn her nickname. So who is next. I was hoping Billy the Kid would make an appearance. I was trying to think of a girl/guy combo that was famous, but i couldnt think of one. I thought that might be the bro and sis.

One more thing. With this whole showdown between bullock and swearengen, all i see is bullock becoming the sheriff. That would be really cool, because i think bullock is too big of an actor to just be a storekeep.

What do you guys think of my sheriff theory?

Piston Honda 05-05-2004 08:22 AM

I think your sheriff theory has some historical merit, as from what I know that is what really happened.

As far as historical figures showing up, I believe I read that Wyatt Earp showed up in Deadwood, also, wanting to become sheriff, but Bullock told him to get. Deadwood Dick might also be a possibility.

Maveric 05-29-2004 07:18 PM

I absolutely love this fucking show.

http://www.hbo.com/deadwood/

i'm going to borrow some quotes -

Quote:

"It's a great way to watch how all these different personalities come together, and how they need to have some sort of organizing principle under which they're guided, otherwise they'll just all kill each other."

"Even though this is a period piece, it won't feel like it. It will feel like: I know that person, I know somebody like that, or I am like that person."

"The emotions are very real and incredibly moving. The audience will never know what to expect from scene to scene. One minute they'll be angry about something, and the next minute they'll be crying. The audience will never get bored."

I especially find these character so very interesting:

Seth Bullock - this man is hard. his only weakness is that he has a conscious, he's his own worst enemy. He's the type of man that men want to be. His actions, mannerisms, and stone cold tone and seriousness are some favorite characteristics. Sone of my favorite moments are his confrontations with AL. some memorable quotes, "Don't tell me what the Fuck I mean!" when Al corrects him and "We understand eachother..." after he promises to hold Al accountable for the widow's claim.

Al Swearengen - Evil. The most charasmatic, cunning, evil character I have EVER experienced, be it in a novel, watched on a show, or met in person. I even like his flaws, such as thinking he's more intelligent than he actually his. He will die, we all know it, and it ain't going to pretty. I'm really interested how it's going to play out.

Alma Garret - seems a bit cold and the perfect match for Bullock. Just wish they would stop "pretending" they aren't going to get together.

Sol Star - the perfect sidekick. Probably too smart for his own good and his attraction to Trixie is going to bite him in the ass. His heart is his weakness.

Wild Bill Hickok - He could of been Seth Bullock. He just traveled a different road is all. He's at the end of his rope and as he told his partner Charlie Utter - "Let me go to Hell the way I want to...". And he did exactly that.

Calamity Jane an alcoholic sewer mouth with a heart of gold. Jane needs direction, but she goes out of her way not to find it. In this she reminds me a bit of Trixie.

Charlie Utter - Your trusted friend. Wordly-wise and easy to relate to. This is the kind of person you can understand why Wild Bill would appropriate to look out for his interests.

Trixie I can't understand her. I can't identify with her personally yet I know many people exactly like her. She represents 90% of the women in my life. Fuck 'em. "Where's that fuckin' whore!"

E.B. Farnum Witty and intelligent but he needs the common sense that Al posses. Under Al's guidance E.B. is potentially one of the most underatted threats.

Dan Dority - Ruthless and has just enough common sense and intelligence to keep up with Al. Dan just doesn't have the higher aspirations of E.B or Al. Obviously has a weakness for young innocent pussy.

Johnny Burns - Not a lick of common sense, and not very bright and easily manipulated. We all know a guy like this. Every once and a while he might suprise us with an intelligent action... or just luck.

Doc Cochran - A healer with a dark turned mind. Very pesimistic but extremely realistic. I love his brutal honesty.

AW Merrick - Very intelligent man who likes to hear himself talk. Thinks himself a man of the community but lacks the initiative to take charge. I would think he would have been better choice as the Mayor. However, just as in real life, guys more like E.B. are the mayors...

Brom Garret - the prime example of a "gentle"man. His weakness was that he was too trusting. He's too Optimistic, to the point it's obnoxious.

Rev. H.W. Smith - Poor soul. A victim of unfortunate circumstance and there's not a damn thing anyone can do about it. We are realistically forced to watch him waste away. Anyone who lost a friend or family member to an uncurable disease can easily relate.

Jack McCall - this guy was born to be hanged. Hell, most of us are. Is it so wrong of us to want to see this cocksucker finished. Unfortunately, I know way too many people like this.

Cy Tolliver - This guy fuckin' scares me, and not in a good way... Unlike Al, Cy has no compassion. His sarcastic outlook and sadistic premise for making a "fresh" start make me want to puke. Even his twofaced smile screams "I'd fuck your grandma in the ass, make you watch, and pay me $50.00". He will never be satisfied. He' the definition of a Son of a Bitch.





Some of my favorite moments -

E.B. 's soliloqy(sp?) while he's cleaning up a bloodstain off the floor (so he doesn't have to lower his hotel rates) contemplating his position in Al's bid to get the Widow to sell her claim.

The confrontations between Seth and Al.

The intereaction between the Doctor and Calamity Jane.

The fucked to hell relationship between Al and Trixie.
In fact, the scene where Trixie returns to the Gem Saloon after unsuccessfully trying to kill herself and she lays that huge gold nugget on his bedside counter. Al grabs her arm and makes her show the fucked up needle marks. She slaps him then undresses as he pulls the covers over for her and she gets into his bed. This is an oscar worthy performance. I'm betting that this show will get numerous Cable Ace awards...

-Mav

JimmyTheHutt 05-31-2004 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cherriesue
I think the show is good but I think it's ridiculous to have all of that swearing in a show set in the old west. It takes me out of what's happening in the show and has me focused on the swearing.
But it is historically accurate. Everything about that show is so dead on, it's amazing.

Veritas en Lux!
Jimmy The Hutt

cameroncrazy822 06-01-2004 10:49 AM

Asking stupid fucking questions like that will get you everywhere cocksucker......

cameroncrazy822 06-01-2004 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by cameroncrazy822
Asking stupid fucking questions like that will get you everywhere cocksucker......
Good Swerengen quote?

Maveric 06-01-2004 06:32 PM

Al has some of the fuckin' best quotes!
 
“I ain't pissed off. I'm in fucking wonderment. I'm waiting to be kept happy by another fucking fairytale.”
—Swearengen

“Don't play that shit where you make me drag your words out. Declare, or shut the fuck up.”
—Swearengen to Farnum

“Let's leave it all alone. I'm stupidest when I try to be funny.”
—Al Swearengen

“You don't want to interfere with me."- Al
"You think I'm scared of you?"- Jane
"Sure you are. And if I take a knife to you you'll be scared worse and a long time dying.”- Al
—Al Swearengen to Calamity Jane

“Here's my counter-offer to your counter-offer: go fuck yourself.”
—Al Swearengen

Jazzbone 08-18-2004 10:56 AM

Calamity Jane will be back next season...

omega2K4 08-19-2004 05:24 AM

its the best show on TV, its hilarious how they use "cocksucker" in every other sentence

World's King 08-19-2004 01:11 PM

Cocksucker.

diergray 08-19-2004 01:22 PM

I added this show to my Tivo list. I just wish I had watched it from the beginning.

BTW, I looked up Deadwood online. I had no idea it was a real place, it's now a wild west resort town.

Maveric 10-31-2004 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diergray
I added this show to my Tivo list. I just wish I had watched it from the beginning.

BTW, I looked up Deadwood online. I had no idea it was a real place, it's now a wild west resort town.

Yeah I've been there a couple of times on Military Exercises back in the day. Beautiful countryside environment. The town is small, especially compared to my hometown, of Houston, Texas. I got the impression that the town is trying to become a western themed Las Vegas...

flamingpeach 10-31-2004 06:52 PM

Great show, i watched every episode from last season religiously.

I can't wait for next season. I may have missed it if it was already mentioned, but when does it start?

Maveric 10-31-2004 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flamingpeach
Great show, i watched every episode from last season religiously.

I can't wait for next season. I may have missed it if it was already mentioned, but when does it start?

I beleive they are currently in production and the new season airs in march 2005.... i could be wrong.

Maveric 02-18-2005 08:20 PM

Just picked up the complete 1st season plus bonus features on DVD for $89.00. Just re-watched the series and listened to the commentaries and watched the bonus features. Well worth the money spent! looking forward to the start of the second season to start March 6th, 2003.

Kostya 02-18-2005 09:53 PM

Anyone know if or when this is coming out in Australia.

Sounds excellent!

World's King 02-22-2005 05:39 PM

Cocksuckers.


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