New Batman movie now titled "Batman Begins" - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

illesturban · 03-05-2004, 01:41 AM

here's the latest update. the cast of this movie is just outta control (in a good way lol). it's a big all-star cast for real. I'm hyped, and it just started filming in iceland...

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Batman Begins, director Christopher Nolan's highly anticipated film, has commenced production in Iceland, with Gary Oldman joining the all-star cast. The announcement was made today by Jeff Robinov, President of Production, Warner Bros. Pictures.

In Batman Begins, Oldman will play Lieutenant James Gordon, a detective on the Gotham police force. The film stars Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman; Michael Caine as his trusted butler Alfred; Katie Holmes as Rachel, a childhood friend of Wayne's; Liam Neeson as Wayne's mentor, Henri Ducard; Morgan Freeman as Lucius Fox, a former board member and sidelined employee of Wayne Enterprises; and Ken Watanabe as the villainous Ra's Al Ghul.

Directed by Christopher Nolan from a screenplay by David Goyer and Christopher Nolan, Batman Begins is produced by Emma Thomas, Charles Roven and Larry Franco. The executive producers are Ben Melniker and Michael Uslan. The film is based on characters created by Bob Kane and published by DC Comics.

Batman Begins is scheduled to film in Iceland, London and Chicago.

The film, which explores the origins of the Batman legend and the Dark Knight's emergence as a force for good in Gotham, will be released worldwide in Summer 2005 by Warner Bros. Pictures, a Warner Bros. Entertainment Company.

Chingal0 · 03-05-2004, 04:14 AM

Batman begins what?

Redjake · 03-05-2004, 05:02 AM

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Originally posted by Chingal0
Batman begins what?

Batman simply "begins!" It's going to show how he got started (probably go more indepth than the previous movies).

flamingdog · 03-05-2004, 05:26 AM

http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/496/496077p1.html

script review by IGN...

Oldman as Gordon? I can't wait for this. Sounds pretty much like Batman Year One.

Redjake · 03-05-2004, 06:14 AM

I hope they get Danny Elfman in on the show

Gortexfogg · 03-05-2004, 06:36 AM

I'm not completely sold on the title but the cast looks like a winner. It'll be interesting to see how it all turns out...

Golgothas · 03-05-2004, 08:26 AM

Christian Bale is all I needed to hear to tell me this film has potential, throwing in the rest of the cast and the director gives me high hopes.

the_marq · 03-05-2004, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by Redjake
I hope they get Danny Elfman in on the show

I am getting so tired of Danny Elfman scoring every movie that comes out of the Hollywood Machine. There are hundreds of other composers just as, or more talented than the Elfman Music System. He's only getting hired now because he has name recognition.

Rumour has it that he only composes a little bit of the music he is attached to now, and most of his work is that of his "interns." But that's just a rumour and I have way to back it up.

Church · 03-05-2004, 08:47 AM

As long as its not directed/produced (whatever) by Jerry Bruckheimer, it'll be good. All that black light shit was stupid.

But yes, with Christian Bale in it, it had better be good. If he gives the same calibre performance as he did in Equilibrium, then we're good.

Golgothas · 03-05-2004, 09:03 AM

Equilibrium meets American Psycho is Bruce Wayne damnit... minus the random murders and misogyny!

mystmarimatt · 03-05-2004, 01:27 PM

IMDB.com had it labeled as "Batman: Intimidation." "Begins" is is still dorky, but at least it's way better than "Intimidation."

And the music is by David Julyan, the guy who did the scores for Nolan's "Insomnia" and "Memento." Those were both good, as far as I can remember, so it'll be interesting to see how a non-Elfman Batman score turns out.

Qazwsxedc · 03-05-2004, 01:35 PM

i better not see any frivolous use of neon like the Joel Schumacher Batman's..

This project looks like it has a lot of potential. Can't wait to see the finsihed product.

FaderMonkey · 03-05-2004, 01:44 PM

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Originally posted by the_marq
I am getting so tired of Danny Elfman scoring every movie that comes out of the Hollywood Machine. There are hundreds of other composers just as, or more talented than the Elfman Music System. He's only getting hired now because he has name recognition.

Rumour has it that he only composes a little bit of the music he is attached to now, and most of his work is that of his "interns." But that's just a rumour and I have way to back it up.

I don't think Elfman is scoring any more than other film composers. Interns writing most of the music?? Yeah, Steve Bartek orchestrates all of his music, but where have you heard about the intern claim? Just curious. I would also love Elfman to score the film, but I doubt that's going to happen.

adia · 03-05-2004, 02:07 PM

it seems that they are rushing a little bringing in Ras Al Ghul. They really haven't earned the right to bring in him yet.

World's King · 03-05-2004, 03:17 PM

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Originally posted by adia
it seems that they are rushing a little bringing in Ras Al Ghul. They really haven't earned the right to bring in him yet.

Are you kidding? That is the best thing anyone has done for the Batman movies. Ras Al Ghul is the coolest.

rabidgoomba · 03-05-2004, 10:59 PM

In other breaking news, Prince is revising his role for the soundtrack. Already having 'Batdance' under his belt, expect 'Batwaltz', 'Battango', and 'Battwostep' to make it on the Batman:Begins soundtrack. Unfortunately, Michael Keaton isn't featured on the soundtrack either.

evilbeefchan · 03-06-2004, 12:15 AM

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Are you kidding? That is the best thing anyone has done for the Batman movies. Ras Al Ghul is the coolest.

I couldn't agree more! He was my favorite character in the Batman animated series! I just hope they don't kill him off in this one. Or at least wait until another movie to do it.

bltzkriegmcanon · 03-06-2004, 09:30 AM

I doubt that they'll kill him off in one movie, Ras Al Ghul was a consistent villain in the animated series and probably one of the better ones. Besides, there's no way a "first year" Batman could out-smart Ras Al Ghul.

mastboyx · 03-08-2004, 01:52 PM

well im just looking forward to see the movie that is all

i guess its gonna be a great one since last one was a total disapointment right?

illesturban · 03-09-2004, 02:17 AM

WOW the script was leaked and has spawned an INCREDIBLY positive review. Check it out in full here: http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=17140

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I didn't like the title BATMAN BEGINS at first. It felt, and still feels in a way, clunky. INTIMIDATION GAME didn't sound exactly right either. What to call the movie that sets the Batman film saga right back to square one? The film that wipes the slate clean, from not only the cinematic abortion that was BATMAN AND ROBIN, but even Tim Burton's two films? Having thought it over and after reading the script, BATMAN BEGINS is the best possible title, and it sets the franchise off to a terrific start, with so much potential that fanboys will need to wear raincoats to the theater, so overcome with orgasmic joy will they be.

I don't know what Christopher Nolan will bring to the film, but his sense in casting is dead on perfect. The actors that have been cast fit their parts perfectly.

As far as the previous Batman films, only the first one feels like it's anything approaching good to me, and even that film feels sloppy. Nothing against Prince, but his musical interludes didn't work, and like Bruce says in the original film, some of BATMAN is very much Tim Burton, and some of it isn't. Well, the first film also doesn't come close to the angst and power that the character has, the darkness and tragedy in Bruce Wayne that compels the fans to follow his story again and again.

This is the part without spoilers. If you don't want to read any, cut loose after this paragraph... but feel comforted that for the first time, they got it right. Not the TV show. Not the films we've seen so far. This feels like Batman, and it brings the franchise to a point where anything is possible. All the characters you know and love are treated well and fairly, and if Superman gets this treatment, maybe the WB won't be the ire of fanboys everywhere. With this script, I feel that Warner Brothers is on the right track with this character, and I can't wait to see the sequel to THIS particular Batman film.

feelgood · 03-09-2004, 09:34 AM

Batman: Begin sounds stupid and dorky at the same time. Yes, I do know that alot of times "stupid" and "dorky" comes in hand and hand. I'm the finest example of that.

Could they have called it Batman: Beginning?

Mr.Deflok · 03-09-2004, 10:15 AM

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Could they have called it Batman: Beginning?

God no, brings Adam West to mind, perhaps "The Beginning"... I'm not too fond of the chosen title either, "Rebirth" might've been nice, signalling Wayne rebirth as the Bat and the Rebirth of a fucked franchise.

flamingdog · 03-09-2004, 11:07 AM

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Originally posted by Mr.Deflok
God no, brings Adam West to mind, perhaps "The Beginning"... I'm not too fond of the chosen title either, "Rebirth" might've been nice, signalling Wayne rebirth as the Bat and the Rebirth of a fucked franchise.

Would it be completely beyond them to just call it Batman? Sure, stupid people might be confused by it, but who gives a shit about them?

illesturban · 03-09-2004, 01:37 PM

^lol well they are trying to get this movie as far away from the previous franchise as possible. They go into more detail about that on the link I posted earlier.

illesturban · 03-09-2004, 02:51 PM

here's something else interesting...

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According to Batman On Film, Guy Pearce might still be making an appearance as Harvey Dent in “Batman Begins”.

Says the site, “Two separate scoopers--one new, and one longtime source--emailed me today with the same rumor. And I said rumor, so take it as such. In the script, Harvey Dent is only mentioned, and he's never seen in person. Nonetheless, both sources said they heard that Asst. D.A. Harvey Dent could make a small cameo in BATMAN BEGINS. And Guy Pearce may play Dent in this scenario. This is hardly set in stone, but I will say that if Pearce agreed to the role, he could easily by inserted into the film. BOF's longtime source says that even if Pearce/Dent appears in the film, this does not mean that Two-Face will be in the sequel--or the one after....”

In addition, BOF reports that an American has been cast in the film, possibly in the role of Thomas Wayne.

Guy Pearce would be awesome, even in a small cameo. Man, Chris Nolan is doing a stand up job with the cast in this movie; from the great castings to the latest script review things are looking up for this flick.

kutulu · 03-09-2004, 04:07 PM

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Originally posted by Chingal0
Batman begins what?

Batman begins to finally fuck Robin in the ass...

Mr.Deflok · 03-09-2004, 10:38 PM

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Originally posted by kutulu
Batman begins to finally fuck Robin in the ass...

That post belongs in Tilted Tiltedness forum.

illesturban · 03-12-2004, 01:50 PM

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USA Today talked to actor Cillian Murphy, who can next be seen in "Intermission"...

The actor goes to London in April for Batman Begins, directed by Chris Nolan (Memento) with Christian Bale as the Caped Crusader. Murphy, who is the evil Scarecrow, is confident this fourth sequel will revive the franchise done in by 1997's Batman & Robin. "We've got the best director we could get and an amazing cast."

While Batman Begins is not really the "fourth sequel," it's still a cool bit.

flamingdog · 03-12-2004, 03:23 PM

It would just be the business if they disregarded everything in the first four films and reinvented the whole Batman mythos, as it should have been done in first place. It was the guy saying Two-Face may or may not make an appearance in a sequel. I always think the films made a mistake in killing off villains after their first adventure. It would be awesome to see the whole Jack Napier story redone.

illesturban · 03-19-2004, 11:17 AM

check out the new teaser logo on the movie's website:

http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/

guthmund · 03-19-2004, 12:36 PM

I hope they dont' put in a lot of unbelievable acrobatic shit i.e. Daredevil.

It's one thing to slap this stuff into Spiderman and Blade because they're genetic freaks. Batman is just a man. It's part of his charm.

flamingdog · 03-19-2004, 12:52 PM

*gulp*

Seriously, I will be pissed if they fuck this up.

Golgothas · 03-19-2004, 08:39 PM

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Originally posted by guthmund
I hope they dont' put in a lot of unbelievable acrobatic shit i.e. Daredevil.

It's one thing to slap this stuff into Spiderman and Blade because they're genetic freaks. Batman is just a man. It's part of his charm.

Daredevil does lots of acrobatic shit in the comics doesn't he? I've only read a few, but I'm sure I saw some flipping out.

guthmund · 03-21-2004, 11:23 AM

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Originally posted by Golgothas
Daredevil does lots of acrobatic shit in the comics doesn't he? I've only read a few, but I'm sure I saw some flipping out.

This is true, but did you see the movie? He's bending and flipping all over the place and jumping 87 times higher and further than any regular human being.

They're supposed to be human. Sure acrobatics and the like are nice, but leave the matrix-style shit out of it.

illesturban · 03-21-2004, 01:28 PM

yeah Daredevil was HIGHLY disappointing. And now Ben Affleck doesn't even want to come back to do the role; lol. Hmm... I wonder why? Maybe because it was one of the WORST comic book adaptations?

flamingdog · 03-21-2004, 01:39 PM

With Ben Assfuck in it it was hardly likely to be one of the best. I don't have many strong emotions over celebrities, but I *hate* that dick. I'd smash his face in if I could.

Panopticon · 03-21-2004, 03:13 PM

I can't wait for this movie...

Its been such a long time since the last good Batman movie.

Fremen · 03-21-2004, 09:13 PM

This movie and most of the cast make it sound like it's going to be a great big blockbuster.

But...
If this is going to be about Bruce/Batman's early years, shouldn't they get someone younger than Michael Caine to play Alfred Pennyworth?
Alfred is an older man in the comics and earlier movies, when Bruce is at his prime or peak. Right?
Michael Caine, 'though a badass actor, is already an older man now, so where does that leave Alfred for future growth?
He would be too old to help.
Any thoughts on this?

On the other hand, maybe I'm being too nitpicky.

illesturban · 03-21-2004, 09:46 PM

^yeah i think you are being too nitpicky lol.

I mean alfred in the first batman movies was like 140 years old! Compared to him, Michael Caine is like 20.

JStrider · 03-21-2004, 10:54 PM

man... Gary Oldman... and Christian Bale

way cool... 2 of my favorite actors...

sounds like their really trying to make this one better then the last couple...

03-05-2004, 04:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
Chingal0 Something like that.. Location: Oreygun.	Batman begins what? __________________ "Eventually I became too sexy for my gym membership fee."

03-05-2004, 06:14 AM	#5 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	I hope they get Danny Elfman in on the show __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

03-05-2004, 08:47 AM	#9 (permalink)
Church Tilted F*ckhead Location: New Jersey	As long as its not directed/produced (whatever) by Jerry Bruckheimer, it'll be good. All that black light shit was stupid. But yes, with Christian Bale in it, it had better be good. If he gives the same calibre performance as he did in Equilibrium, then we're good. __________________ Through counter-intelligence, it should be possible to pinpoint potential trouble makers, and neutralize them.

03-05-2004, 01:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
mystmarimatt Omnipotent Ruler Of The Tiny Universe In My Mind Location: Oreegawn	IMDB.com had it labeled as "Batman: Intimidation." "Begins" is is still dorky, but at least it's way better than "Intimidation." And the music is by David Julyan, the guy who did the scores for Nolan's "Insomnia" and "Memento." Those were both good, as far as I can remember, so it'll be interesting to see how a non-Elfman Batman score turns out. __________________ Words of Wisdom: If you could really get to know someone and know that they weren't lying to you, then you would know the world was real. Because you could agree on things, you could compare notes. That must be why people get married or make Art. So they'll be able to really know something and not go insane. Last edited by mystmarimatt; 03-05-2004 at 01:32 PM..

03-06-2004, 09:30 AM	#18 (permalink)
bltzkriegmcanon Holy Knight of The Alliance Location: Stormwind, The Eastern Kingdoms, Azeroth	I doubt that they'll kill him off in one movie, Ras Al Ghul was a consistent villain in the animated series and probably one of the better ones. Besides, there's no way a "first year" Batman could out-smart Ras Al Ghul. __________________ What do you say to one last showdown? - Ocelot, Metal Gear Solid 3 The password is "Who are the Patriots?" and "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo." "La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo." Gotcha. - The Colonel and Snake, Metal Gear Solid 3

03-05-2004, 05:26 AM	#4 (permalink)
flamingdog Still fighting it.	http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/496/496077p1.html script review by IGN... Oldman as Gordon? I can't wait for this. Sounds pretty much like Batman Year One.

03-05-2004, 06:36 AM	#6 (permalink)
Gortexfogg I and I Location: Stillwater, OK	I'm not completely sold on the title but the cast looks like a winner. It'll be interesting to see how it all turns out...

03-05-2004, 08:26 AM	#7 (permalink)
Golgothas Tilted	Christian Bale is all I needed to hear to tell me this film has potential, throwing in the rest of the cast and the director gives me high hopes.

03-05-2004, 09:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
Golgothas Tilted	Equilibrium meets American Psycho is Bruce Wayne damnit... minus the random murders and misogyny!

03-05-2004, 01:35 PM	#12 (permalink)
Qazwsxedc Insane	i better not see any frivolous use of neon like the Joel Schumacher Batman's.. This project looks like it has a lot of potential. Can't wait to see the finsihed product.

03-05-2004, 02:07 PM	#14 (permalink)
adia Upright	it seems that they are rushing a little bringing in Ras Al Ghul. They really haven't earned the right to bring in him yet.

03-05-2004, 10:59 PM	#16 (permalink)
rabidgoomba Upright	In other breaking news, Prince is revising his role for the soundtrack. Already having 'Batdance' under his belt, expect 'Batwaltz', 'Battango', and 'Battwostep' to make it on the Batman:Begins soundtrack. Unfortunately, Michael Keaton isn't featured on the soundtrack either.

03-08-2004, 01:52 PM	#19 (permalink)
mastboyx Insane Location: Mexico	well im just looking forward to see the movie that is all i guess its gonna be a great one since last one was a total disapointment right? __________________ Ignorance Is Bliss

03-09-2004, 09:34 AM	#21 (permalink)
feelgood Free Mars! Location: I dunno, there's white people around me saying "eh" all the time	Batman: Begin sounds stupid and dorky at the same time. Yes, I do know that alot of times "stupid" and "dorky" comes in hand and hand. I'm the finest example of that. Could they have called it Batman: Beginning? __________________ Looking out the window, that's an act of war. Staring at my shoes, that's an act of war. Committing an act of war? Oh you better believe that's an act of war

03-09-2004, 01:37 PM	#24 (permalink)
illesturban Psycho Location: Lubbock, TX	^lol well they are trying to get this movie as far away from the previous franchise as possible. They go into more detail about that on the link I posted earlier.

03-12-2004, 03:23 PM	#29 (permalink)
flamingdog Still fighting it.	It would just be the business if they disregarded everything in the first four films and reinvented the whole Batman mythos, as it should have been done in first place. It was the guy saying Two-Face may or may not make an appearance in a sequel. I always think the films made a mistake in killing off villains after their first adventure. It would be awesome to see the whole Jack Napier story redone.

03-19-2004, 11:17 AM	#30 (permalink)
illesturban Psycho Location: Lubbock, TX	check out the new teaser logo on the movie's website: http://batmanbegins.warnerbros.com/

03-19-2004, 12:36 PM	#31 (permalink)
guthmund big damn hero	I hope they dont' put in a lot of unbelievable acrobatic shit i.e. Daredevil. It's one thing to slap this stuff into Spiderman and Blade because they're genetic freaks. Batman is just a man. It's part of his charm. __________________ No signature. None. Seriously.

03-19-2004, 12:52 PM	#32 (permalink)
flamingdog Still fighting it.	gulp Seriously, I will be pissed if they fuck this up. Last edited by flamingdog; 03-19-2004 at 01:08 PM..

03-21-2004, 01:28 PM	#35 (permalink)
illesturban Psycho Location: Lubbock, TX	yeah Daredevil was HIGHLY disappointing. And now Ben Affleck doesn't even want to come back to do the role; lol. Hmm... I wonder why? Maybe because it was one of the WORST comic book adaptations?

03-21-2004, 01:39 PM	#36 (permalink)
flamingdog Still fighting it.	With Ben Assfuck in it it was hardly likely to be one of the best. I don't have many strong emotions over celebrities, but I hate that dick. I'd smash his face in if I could.

03-21-2004, 03:13 PM	#37 (permalink)
Panopticon Psycho	I can't wait for this movie... Its been such a long time since the last good Batman movie. __________________ .:Panopticon:.

03-21-2004, 09:13 PM	#38 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	This movie and most of the cast make it sound like it's going to be a great big blockbuster. But... If this is going to be about Bruce/Batman's early years, shouldn't they get someone younger than Michael Caine to play Alfred Pennyworth? Alfred is an older man in the comics and earlier movies, when Bruce is at his prime or peak. Right? Michael Caine, 'though a badass actor, is already an older man now, so where does that leave Alfred for future growth? He would be too old to help. Any thoughts on this? On the other hand, maybe I'm being too nitpicky.

03-21-2004, 09:46 PM	#39 (permalink)
illesturban Psycho Location: Lubbock, TX	^yeah i think you are being too nitpicky lol. I mean alfred in the first batman movies was like 140 years old! Compared to him, Michael Caine is like 20.

03-21-2004, 10:54 PM	#40 (permalink)
JStrider Poo-tee-weet? Location: The Woodlands, TX	man... Gary Oldman... and Christian Bale way cool... 2 of my favorite actors... sounds like their really trying to make this one better then the last couple... __________________ -=JStrider=- ~Clatto Verata Nicto