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Giltwist · 02-10-2004, 11:59 AM

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X2 writers Dan Harris and Michael Dougherty will adapt Orson Scott Card's beloved SF novels Ender's Game and Ender's Shadow for the screen, to be directed by Wolfgang Petersen, Variety reported. Warner Brothers will produce. The Hugo Award-winning book series begins on Earth after an alien attack, when gifted children are recruited for war, with a prodigy leading the assault against the aliens, the trade paper reported.

I have one word: w00t. If they get good child actors, the movie could be very very good. I only wonder how all the subtext that make's Card's books so good will be incorporated.

diergray · 02-10-2004, 12:17 PM

I guess they are combining Game and Shadow into one screenplay. I hope the focus is still on Ender.

InTeGrA77 · 02-10-2004, 01:00 PM

Can't wait for that to come out (does anyone know when?). I hope that they don't mess it up too much though. I hear that they might take Bonzo out of the story entirely, which would severely piss me off. As for the rest of the story, I haven't heard too much, but I don't think that they're going to be able to find actors/actresses young enough to play some of the kid's parts...

Giltwist · 02-10-2004, 01:15 PM

yeah because most of the characters are like 5-8 aren't they?

Ace_O_Spades · 02-10-2004, 01:38 PM

how is it even possible to take bonzo out? he's one of the main antagonists! GRR if they do it would bother me greatly

"From the depths of my parents basement in wyoming, I STAB AT THEE"

goateebird · 02-10-2004, 03:42 PM

If Wolfgang Petersen is directing, then at least the action will be good. I haven't read Shadow, but in Ender's Game the action was really all that I enjoyed. So it might be pretty good. I wonder how they're going to pull off having the two books rolled up into one screenplay.

Redjake · 02-10-2004, 05:15 PM

you guys should all play Zone of the Enders for PS2

Hrothgar · 02-10-2004, 06:11 PM

I love this series. So I of course won't be watching because Hollywood reduces shit to the lowest common denominator and this fucks things up.

sexymama · 02-10-2004, 06:14 PM

The movie CANNOT be as good as the movie -- especially without Bonzo! (As my son says, you can't have Bean without Bonzo.) I'll go see it, but won't have high expectations.

Giltwist · 02-10-2004, 06:14 PM

Who knows, maybe we will luck out and the director will pull a Peter Jackson and make a cinematic masterpiece which does justice to the novels

maximus · 02-10-2004, 08:19 PM

i dont think there is a possibility in this world that the movie could be 1/2 as good as the book. i cant think of any good children actors who could play ender or any of the other characters in the book. i hope it will make more people read the book before they go see the movie, so they know how good of an author card is before they see the trash they turn it into.

synic213 · 02-11-2004, 03:47 PM

Like everyone's said: I hope they don't fuck this up.

goateebird · 02-11-2004, 04:14 PM

Is Orson Scott Card playing any role in this film, like consultant, or screenwriter or something?

And actually, my best friend's dad is very good friends with Card, though it would probably be impolite to ask for info on the film.

micah67 · 02-11-2004, 04:25 PM

InTeGrA77 · 02-11-2004, 07:00 PM

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Originally posted by Giltwist
yeah because most of the characters are like 5-8 aren't they?

Yeah, Ender is six in the book, and Bean is even younger. I don't think that Card is going to be in the movie.

Jake Lloyd is set up for Ender's role (the kid that was in "Star Wars; the Phantom Menace.") He was 9 during the filming of that movie, so he's not really near Ender's age now, but whatever, he looks young-ish to me. (google him)

And nevermind, I just read that Bonzo IS going to be one of the major characters in the movie (although I read that he wasn't elsewhere, but whatever). Petra and Alai are the other 2 main roles listed, but it doesn't really say who's playing what yet though...

BuddyHawks · 02-11-2004, 07:12 PM

Huzza! I loved this book. I can't wait for the movie.
I think I'll read it again.

hosti|e · 02-11-2004, 08:59 PM

With the dearth of child acting talent outside of the usual disney films, ill be highly impressed if they can actually pull this off without completely fucking it up

wondash · 03-08-2004, 06:35 AM

More news on the movie

seretogis · 03-08-2004, 01:33 PM

I bet it ends up being Spykids 3. Child actors are simply not believable in any sort of action role.

wordssmith22 · 03-08-2004, 10:27 PM

oh god no....

enders game is one of my favorite books of all time. this makes me very sad. i saw a copy of enders game with a special cover "for kids" or something like that with ender smilng inside the game room. the synopsis on the back was pathetic, somethng about will ender defeat the evil aliens. that's the feeling i get about what this movie is gonna turn out like. and how do you not have bonzo? and what about the fights in the showers, that'd be pretty tough to do with child actors.

MPower · 03-09-2004, 10:10 AM

As long as they dont have him and his sister carrying on debates for 4000years.

Pham · 03-10-2004, 05:33 PM

cool. I wonder if Achilles will be in it, and in what way.

Seer666 · 03-28-2004, 03:48 PM

I am going to hold judgment on this until I see a bit more. Like a good trailor or something. Could be a great movie. The books were awsome. But then again, it could be really painful to watch. Like Sphere. Lets take half the book,a dn turn it into a 2 minute lead in for the rest. Never mind all the really good stuff for setting up the rest of the plot was in that first half. Holywood can really fuck these things up.

Redjake · 03-28-2004, 05:59 PM

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Originally posted by Seer666
I am going to hold judgment on this until I see a bit more. Like a good trailor or something. Could be a great movie. The books were awsome. But then again, it could be really painful to watch. Like Sphere. Lets take half the book,a dn turn it into a 2 minute lead in for the rest. Never mind all the really good stuff for setting up the rest of the plot was in that first half. Holywood can really fuck these things up.

Sphere was the best book I had ever read for a long time. It still is one of my favorites. When I saw the movie, it was basically a huge cringe-fest. Ah well.

Seer666 · 03-28-2004, 07:01 PM

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Originally posted by Redjake
Sphere was the best book I had ever read for a long time. It still is one of my favorites. When I saw the movie, it was basically a huge cringe-fest. Ah well.

I am so with you on that one. I loved that book. So many great books turned into crap on the big screen, it makes me sick.

adia · 03-30-2004, 12:53 AM

i hope they do that one zero-g battle, where ender sends his team in feet first. That was so much fun to read, and made me start to appreciate what it meant that ender was a genius

clavus · 03-30-2004, 09:54 PM

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Originally posted by Hrothgar
I love this series. So I of course won't be watching because Hollywood reduces shit to the lowest common denominator and this fucks things up.

*clavus nods silently*

Radi8tor · 04-02-2004, 10:46 AM

Cmon peeps, this is announced on the heels of LOTR, arguably one of the most challenging work of literature to put on film...Plus they know Ender fans are all sci fi geeks and love new technology put to good use...like jar jar binks for instance...hehe some truth in there anyhow...

ratbastid · 04-03-2004, 07:33 PM

It won't be as good as the book, you gotta know that. But Card's keeping his hand in the production, so you know it can't stray too far from the original intent.

Seer666 · 04-03-2004, 10:09 PM

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Originally posted by ratbastid
It won't be as good as the book, you gotta know that. But Card's keeping his hand in the production, so you know it can't stray too far from the original intent.

I don't know about that. I've seen a couple films where the writer was involved, and they still had nothing to do with the book other then the name.

Journeyman · 04-04-2004, 01:44 AM

Step one, film Ender's Game through Shadow Puppets in one big production, release once every two years. Step two, use the same child actor some 5-7 years after the last release in the... jesus, it musta been over a thousand pages that I read of them and I can't remember the names of the Ender sequel books. But you know where I'm going with this.

SiNai · 04-24-2005, 11:55 PM

So there's another [trivial] update: http://www.frescopictures.com/movies...me_update.html

I can't see this movie being better than the books. The books, at least Game and Shadow, are legendary.

Locke7 · 04-25-2005, 07:31 AM

Geez it's taking them forever to get this thing moving. Last year we found out who was going to write the screenplay, and now a year later, we find out again who is going to write the screenplay?

Ender and Shadow were great, but I think the best parts of the story come out in the rest of the Ender series and parallel Shadow series...

spongy · 04-25-2005, 07:25 PM

I remember hearing the Jake Lloyd was cast... right after episode 1 came out.. not sure if they filmed anything then, but he was age appropriate then.

Also, I remember hearing of another good book to be made into a movie by a director I love....
Rendevous With Rama.. an Arthur C Clarke book .. directed by David Fincher. As far as i know.. that was actually filmed.. but will never be released.. never heard exactly why though.

dfings · 04-25-2005, 07:41 PM

the book was awesome so hopefully the movie lives up to expectations

Moskie · 04-26-2005, 02:20 AM

Wolfgang Petersen, huh? That might work out really well. Remember that he directed The Neverending Story way-back-when... there's definately similarities between the two.

Here's my question, though: do you think it's possible that they remove the fantasy game part of the story? To me, it's the central (and best) part of the book, but at the same time it feels like the least "Hollywood" aspect to it. Because of that, I'm scared they're just gonna axe it. I'd like to think it's not even an option but *shrug* who knows....

SitizenVZ · 04-26-2005, 03:36 PM

There is no way they'll make a "children's movie" as dark as this needs to be to stay true to the book. Maybe if it was done with european's on an american budget, but I doubt that will happen.

TexanAvenger · 04-26-2005, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Seer666

I don't know about that. I've seen a couple films where the writer was involved, and they still had nothing to do with the book other then the name.

*cough*stephen king*cough*

Hain · 04-27-2005, 05:23 AM

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Originally Posted by SitizenVZ

Maybe if it was done with european's on an american budget

I agree with that. It would be amazing to see this go through.

Locke7 · 04-28-2005, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Moskie

Here's my question, though: do you think it's possible that they remove the fantasy game part of the story?

Well if they take out the fantasy game they would have a hard time making a sequel. Because some main story lines are created out of that game...

02-10-2004, 12:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
diergray Psycho	I guess they are combining Game and Shadow into one screenplay. I hope the focus is still on Ender. __________________ "Behold the turtle. He makes progress only when he sticks his neck out.” ~ James Bryant Conant

02-10-2004, 01:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
InTeGrA77 Psycho Location: the tangent universe	Can't wait for that to come out (does anyone know when?). I hope that they don't mess it up too much though. I hear that they might take Bonzo out of the story entirely, which would severely piss me off. As for the rest of the story, I haven't heard too much, but I don't think that they're going to be able to find actors/actresses young enough to play some of the kid's parts... __________________ 28 days...6 hours...42 minutes...12 seconds...

02-10-2004, 01:38 PM	#5 (permalink)
Ace_O_Spades The Death Card Location: EH!?!?	how is it even possible to take bonzo out? he's one of the main antagonists! GRR if they do it would bother me greatly "From the depths of my parents basement in wyoming, I STAB AT THEE" __________________ Feh.

02-10-2004, 05:15 PM	#7 (permalink)
Redjake I'm a family man - I run a family business. Location: Wilson, NC	you guys should all play Zone of the Enders for PS2 __________________ Off the record, on the q.t., and very hush-hush.

02-10-2004, 06:11 PM	#8 (permalink)
Hrothgar He's My Girl Location: The Champagne Douche	I love this series. So I of course won't be watching because Hollywood reduces shit to the lowest common denominator and this fucks things up. __________________ The fortunes of war favored Hrothgar.

02-10-2004, 01:15 PM	#4 (permalink)
Giltwist Insane Location: Pennsylvania	yeah because most of the characters are like 5-8 aren't they?

02-10-2004, 03:42 PM	#6 (permalink)
goateebird Tilted Location: NC	If Wolfgang Petersen is directing, then at least the action will be good. I haven't read Shadow, but in Ender's Game the action was really all that I enjoyed. So it might be pretty good. I wonder how they're going to pull off having the two books rolled up into one screenplay.

02-10-2004, 06:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
sexymama My own person -- his by choice Location: Lebell's arms	The movie CANNOT be as good as the movie -- especially without Bonzo! (As my son says, you can't have Bean without Bonzo.) I'll go see it, but won't have high expectations. __________________ If you can go deeply into lovemaking, the ego disappears. That is the beauty of lovemaking, that it is another source of a glimpse of god It's not about being perfect; it's about developing some skill at managing imperfection.

02-10-2004, 06:14 PM	#10 (permalink)
Giltwist Insane Location: Pennsylvania	Who knows, maybe we will luck out and the director will pull a Peter Jackson and make a cinematic masterpiece which does justice to the novels

02-10-2004, 08:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
maximus Crazy Location: Pa	i dont think there is a possibility in this world that the movie could be 1/2 as good as the book. i cant think of any good children actors who could play ender or any of the other characters in the book. i hope it will make more people read the book before they go see the movie, so they know how good of an author card is before they see the trash they turn it into. __________________ i don't want to be lonely, i just want to be alone.

02-11-2004, 03:47 PM	#12 (permalink)
synic213 Crazy Location: Sunny San Diego	Like everyone's said: I hope they don't fuck this up.

02-11-2004, 04:14 PM	#13 (permalink)
goateebird Tilted Location: NC	Is Orson Scott Card playing any role in this film, like consultant, or screenwriter or something? And actually, my best friend's dad is very good friends with Card, though it would probably be impolite to ask for info on the film.

02-11-2004, 04:25 PM	#14 (permalink)
micah67 Thor Location: 33:08:12N 117:10:23W	ask! __________________ ~micah

02-11-2004, 07:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
BuddyHawks Swashbuckling Location: Iowa...sometimes	Huzza! I loved this book. I can't wait for the movie. I think I'll read it again. __________________ Watch More TV

02-11-2004, 08:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
hosti\|e Tilted	With the dearth of child acting talent outside of the usual disney films, ill be highly impressed if they can actually pull this off without completely fucking it up

03-08-2004, 01:33 PM	#19 (permalink)
seretogis Huggles, sir? Location: Seattle	I bet it ends up being Spykids 3. Child actors are simply not believable in any sort of action role. __________________ seretogis - sieg heil perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most, forgot how it feels well almost no one to blame always the same, open my eyes wake up in flames

03-08-2004, 06:35 AM	#18 (permalink)
wondash Psycho	More news on the movie

03-08-2004, 10:27 PM	#20 (permalink)
wordssmith22 Crazy	oh god no.... enders game is one of my favorite books of all time. this makes me very sad. i saw a copy of enders game with a special cover "for kids" or something like that with ender smilng inside the game room. the synopsis on the back was pathetic, somethng about will ender defeat the evil aliens. that's the feeling i get about what this movie is gonna turn out like. and how do you not have bonzo? and what about the fights in the showers, that'd be pretty tough to do with child actors.

03-09-2004, 10:10 AM	#21 (permalink)
MPower Psycho	As long as they dont have him and his sister carrying on debates for 4000years.

03-10-2004, 05:33 PM	#22 (permalink)
Pham Insane	cool. I wonder if Achilles will be in it, and in what way.

03-28-2004, 03:48 PM	#23 (permalink)
Seer666 Oh dear God he breeded Location: Arizona	I am going to hold judgment on this until I see a bit more. Like a good trailor or something. Could be a great movie. The books were awsome. But then again, it could be really painful to watch. Like Sphere. Lets take half the book,a dn turn it into a 2 minute lead in for the rest. Never mind all the really good stuff for setting up the rest of the plot was in that first half. Holywood can really fuck these things up. __________________ Bad spellers of the world untie!!! I am the one you warned me of I seem to have misplaced the bullet with your name on it, but I have a whole box addressed to occupant.

03-30-2004, 12:53 AM	#26 (permalink)
adia Upright	i hope they do that one zero-g battle, where ender sends his team in feet first. That was so much fun to read, and made me start to appreciate what it meant that ender was a genius

04-02-2004, 10:46 AM	#28 (permalink)
Radi8tor Upright Location: Philly	Cmon peeps, this is announced on the heels of LOTR, arguably one of the most challenging work of literature to put on film...Plus they know Ender fans are all sci fi geeks and love new technology put to good use...like jar jar binks for instance...hehe some truth in there anyhow...

04-03-2004, 07:33 PM	#29 (permalink)
ratbastid Darth Papa Location: Yonder	It won't be as good as the book, you gotta know that. But Card's keeping his hand in the production, so you know it can't stray too far from the original intent.

04-04-2004, 01:44 AM	#31 (permalink)
Journeyman Like John Goodman, but not. Location: SFBA, California	Step one, film Ender's Game through Shadow Puppets in one big production, release once every two years. Step two, use the same child actor some 5-7 years after the last release in the... jesus, it musta been over a thousand pages that I read of them and I can't remember the names of the Ender sequel books. But you know where I'm going with this.

04-24-2005, 11:55 PM	#32 (permalink)
SiNai Dreams In Digital Location: Iowa	So there's another [trivial] update: http://www.frescopictures.com/movies...me_update.html I can't see this movie being better than the books. The books, at least Game and Shadow, are legendary. __________________ I can't seem to remember now What it was like- to live life, before you.. symbiont

04-25-2005, 07:31 AM	#33 (permalink)
Locke7 Insane	Geez it's taking them forever to get this thing moving. Last year we found out who was going to write the screenplay, and now a year later, we find out again who is going to write the screenplay? Ender and Shadow were great, but I think the best parts of the story come out in the rest of the Ender series and parallel Shadow series...

04-25-2005, 07:25 PM	#34 (permalink)
spongy Psycho	I remember hearing the Jake Lloyd was cast... right after episode 1 came out.. not sure if they filmed anything then, but he was age appropriate then. Also, I remember hearing of another good book to be made into a movie by a director I love.... Rendevous With Rama.. an Arthur C Clarke book .. directed by David Fincher. As far as i know.. that was actually filmed.. but will never be released.. never heard exactly why though. __________________ The man in black fled across the desert, and the gunslinger followed. Stephen King

04-25-2005, 07:41 PM	#35 (permalink)
dfings Upright	the book was awesome so hopefully the movie lives up to expectations

04-26-2005, 02:20 AM	#36 (permalink)
Moskie Pure Chewing Satisfaction Location: can i use bbcode [i]here[/i]?	Wolfgang Petersen, huh? That might work out really well. Remember that he directed The Neverending Story way-back-when... there's definately similarities between the two. Here's my question, though: do you think it's possible that they remove the fantasy game part of the story? To me, it's the central (and best) part of the book, but at the same time it feels like the least "Hollywood" aspect to it. Because of that, I'm scared they're just gonna axe it. I'd like to think it's not even an option but shrug who knows.... __________________ Greetings and salutations.

04-26-2005, 03:36 PM	#37 (permalink)
SitizenVZ Tilted	There is no way they'll make a "children's movie" as dark as this needs to be to stay true to the book. Maybe if it was done with european's on an american budget, but I doubt that will happen.