Anyone else think MI:2 is better than it gets credit for? - Tilted Forum Project Discussion Community

Chilly McFreeze · 12-01-2003, 12:37 PM

I mean this film was pretty much universally panned by the critics, but seriously what's wrong with it? It's an action film, it's not supposed to be clever. And as an action film I'd say it's damn good - great stunts (asphalt surfing anyone?), a couple of good fights (Cruise's sommersault leg drop/axe kick looked awesome), a gorgeous female sidekick and lots of guns. Taken for what it is - a fun, all action showcase that you don't have to think about, I think it's pretty good. Opinions?

sailor · 12-01-2003, 02:41 PM

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Anyone else think MI:2 is better than it gets credit for?

Not really.

It was a good action flick like you said, but it didnt really have anything disinguishing about it. Same old, same old. MI:1 was an excellent movie, good suspense, *story driven*, and a good time. I probably give MI:2 3/5 stars. Like you said, good action, but not much else.

Cynthetiq · 12-01-2003, 02:46 PM

a little too much American John Woo IMHO. I didn't like the story so much as I did the first.

Moskie · 12-01-2003, 02:47 PM

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Originally posted by sailor420
Not really.

It was a good action flick like you said, but it didnt really have anything disinguishing about it. Same old, same old. MI:1 was an excellent movie, good suspense, *story driven*, and a good time. I probably give MI:2 3/5 stars. Like you said, good action, but not much else.

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Originally posted by Cynthetiq
a little too much American John Woo IMHO. I didn't like the story so much as I did the first.

Ditto, ditto, and ditto. Stylish (read: tacky), but lacking substance.

added: i remember reading that David Fincher was attached to MI:3. But IMDB says that is no longer the case. That's a REAL shame, I thought it would have been a great idea.

Pellaz · 12-01-2003, 05:25 PM

Yup, fraid I got to side with the popular opinion. The movie just felt like an excersice in what makes John Woo John Woo. In fact, they could of taken two or three references out, got a new theme song, and called it "Super action cliff hanging dove fest", instead of MI2, imo. I loved the first movie, and will always regret that they ever made the second.

Sparhawk · 12-01-2003, 05:58 PM

*sound of crickets chirping*

I loved the story-driven first movie, and was very dismayed coming out of the cineplex after seeing the action-set-piece-driven second movie. The first managed to have its share of action scenes *and* have an intriguing story to go along with it.

Mr.Deflok · 12-01-2003, 08:25 PM

The film it is horrible and that is the sole reason it is so good.

Kaos · 12-01-2003, 08:57 PM

I gave it a fair chance...but I still thought it was terrible. The typical sequel, try to top the first and fall flat on it's face.

Sensei · 12-01-2003, 09:58 PM

You know I didn't know what the hell was going in M:I so MI:2 was a welcome change for me. Plus John Woo is my favorite director, he totally kicks ass. What? Windtalkers? I'm sorry sir, I don't know what you're speaking of...

Skifter2 · 12-02-2003, 03:59 AM

This might go into the category of "Action" ...but boy was it boring "action"...
I dont think 2 or three nice looking acrobatics makes for a good movie.
I did not, in any way, feel any interest stirring inme, from start to finish... and even for a typical "Action" movie, the characters felt cardboard'ish.

Mr.Deflok · 12-02-2003, 01:29 PM

I'm gutted that David Fincher has pulled out of doing M:I 3

t3m3st · 12-02-2003, 03:09 PM

It was a fun movie. I didn't expect much more from it. That beach scene was fun! And the doves and the killing. It wasn't going to win any Oscars. I think everyone knew that. You have to admit it was better than the first one. I've seen that I dont know how many times and I still don't get it.

John Falcon · 12-02-2003, 03:33 PM

I liked it a bunch more than MI:1...although I feel funny owning a part 2 and not the part 1.

bgivnin · 12-03-2003, 07:35 PM

I agree with half of what Falcon said. I LOVED MI:2 way more than the first one, and only own MI2 on DVD. I didn't like the first one at all, thus the reason I don't own it on DVD.

bgivnin · 12-03-2003, 07:36 PM

Sorry for the double post - couldn't hit Esc fast enough the first time to stop the post and forgot about the 'Edit' button.

WhoaitsZ · 12-08-2003, 01:12 PM

i loved MI:2. I loathed the first one. good story, good sceenes, good everything IMO. i'm a TC fan, though.

hilbert25 · 12-09-2003, 12:53 AM

I preferred the second to the first. I thought both had their merits., though.

Sho Nuff · 12-09-2003, 09:36 AM

It is the second most underrated action flick in American film history, right after Equilibrium.

feelgood · 12-09-2003, 10:02 AM

Second was fukin boring. Everything in the first hour of the movie is just something that's been repeated in hundreds of other action movies.

I just sat in the theater and fell asleep.

For an action movie...that's bad...just plain bad...

Lord Humungus · 12-09-2003, 10:51 AM

they only cool part about MI:2 was the intro with him Rock Climbing scene. Other than that..I was disappointed. I didn't really feel like he was on some "Impossible" mission like the first. The suspense was horrible and...if they did the "mask" thing one more time...I would going to scream. They did it like 3 or 4 times in that movie. The did it in the first and it was done well. It should have stayed there.

Stare At The Sun · 12-09-2003, 02:59 PM

Nope.

IckUber · 12-10-2003, 09:37 AM

That movie was a pile of shit, he kicks a gun at the end, and it flys up into his hands. Im all about cheezy movies and fun films, but that was just fucking stupid.

kingthor · 12-11-2003, 07:37 PM

the part i hate bout the movie is the bikes in the film were different.. i mean if u watched the movie the tires on the bike were different from on the road to off road.. i love the face changing stuff that was cool.. but i guess.. personal opinions on this one

bundy · 12-13-2003, 01:10 AM

no, it totally deserves all it gets.
first of all, that scene where apparently they are in the Aussie outback, and theres a shack and a kangaroo ... what a load of utter bullshit.
then there´s RIchard Roxburghs crap Satha accent... he was great as Roger Rogerson in Blue Murder, but for even appearing in that MI2 disaster, he should be shot.
then theres the whole Tom Cruise problem...
well, this is just my 2c, but i hated every moment of that film.
wish i could have that $10 back.

12-01-2003, 12:37 PM	#1 (permalink)
Chilly McFreeze Insane Location: England	Anyone else think MI:2 is better than it gets credit for? I mean this film was pretty much universally panned by the critics, but seriously what's wrong with it? It's an action film, it's not supposed to be clever. And as an action film I'd say it's damn good - great stunts (asphalt surfing anyone?), a couple of good fights (Cruise's sommersault leg drop/axe kick looked awesome), a gorgeous female sidekick and lots of guns. Taken for what it is - a fun, all action showcase that you don't have to think about, I think it's pretty good. Opinions?

12-01-2003, 02:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
Cynthetiq Tilted Cat Head Administrator Location: Manhattan, NY	a little too much American John Woo IMHO. I didn't like the story so much as I did the first. __________________ I don't care if you are black, white, purple, green, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, hippie, cop, bum, admin, user, English, Irish, French, Catholic, Protestant, Jewish, Buddhist, Muslim, indian, cowboy, tall, short, fat, skinny, emo, punk, mod, rocker, straight, gay, lesbian, jock, nerd, geek, Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, Independent, driver, pedestrian, or bicyclist, either you're an asshole or you're not. What's the best nation in the world? DO-NATION!

12-01-2003, 05:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pellaz Addict Location: Texas	Yup, fraid I got to side with the popular opinion. The movie just felt like an excersice in what makes John Woo John Woo. In fact, they could of taken two or three references out, got a new theme song, and called it "Super action cliff hanging dove fest", instead of MI2, imo. I loved the first movie, and will always regret that they ever made the second. __________________ " ' Big Mouth. Remember it took three of you to kill me. A god, a boy, and, last and least, a hero.' "

12-01-2003, 05:58 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sparhawk Dubya Location: VA	sound of crickets chirping I loved the story-driven first movie, and was very dismayed coming out of the cineplex after seeing the action-set-piece-driven second movie. The first managed to have its share of action scenes and have an intriguing story to go along with it. __________________ "In Iraq, no doubt about it, it's tough. It's hard work. It's incredibly hard. It's - and it's hard work. I understand how hard it is. I get the casualty reports every day. I see on the TV screens how hard it is. But it's necessary work. We're making progress. It is hard work."

12-01-2003, 09:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Sensei Black Belt in Slacking Off Location: Portland Or-ah-gun	You know I didn't know what the hell was going in M:I so MI:2 was a welcome change for me. Plus John Woo is my favorite director, he totally kicks ass. What? Windtalkers? I'm sorry sir, I don't know what you're speaking of... __________________ Slacking off with style since 1981.

12-01-2003, 08:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	The film it is horrible and that is the sole reason it is so good.

12-01-2003, 08:57 PM	#8 (permalink)
Kaos Ssssssssss Location: Ontario	I gave it a fair chance...but I still thought it was terrible. The typical sequel, try to top the first and fall flat on it's face.

12-02-2003, 03:59 AM	#10 (permalink)
Skifter2 Tilted	This might go into the category of "Action" ...but boy was it boring "action"... I dont think 2 or three nice looking acrobatics makes for a good movie. I did not, in any way, feel any interest stirring inme, from start to finish... and even for a typical "Action" movie, the characters felt cardboard'ish.

12-02-2003, 01:29 PM	#11 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	I'm gutted that David Fincher has pulled out of doing M:I 3

12-02-2003, 03:09 PM	#12 (permalink)
t3m3st Vroom! Location: Toronto	It was a fun movie. I didn't expect much more from it. That beach scene was fun! And the doves and the killing. It wasn't going to win any Oscars. I think everyone knew that. You have to admit it was better than the first one. I've seen that I dont know how many times and I still don't get it. __________________ I do it for the rare drops

12-02-2003, 03:33 PM	#13 (permalink)
John Falcon Psycho Location: New York, CA	I liked it a bunch more than MI:1...although I feel funny owning a part 2 and not the part 1.

12-03-2003, 07:35 PM	#14 (permalink)
bgivnin Insane	I agree with half of what Falcon said. I LOVED MI:2 way more than the first one, and only own MI2 on DVD. I didn't like the first one at all, thus the reason I don't own it on DVD.

12-03-2003, 07:36 PM	#15 (permalink)
bgivnin Insane	Sorry for the double post - couldn't hit Esc fast enough the first time to stop the post and forgot about the 'Edit' button.

12-08-2003, 01:12 PM	#16 (permalink)
WhoaitsZ Crazy Location: right behind you...	i loved MI:2. I loathed the first one. good story, good sceenes, good everything IMO. i'm a TC fan, though.

12-09-2003, 12:53 AM	#17 (permalink)
hilbert25 Psycho Location: nOvA	I preferred the second to the first. I thought both had their merits., though.

12-09-2003, 02:59 PM	#21 (permalink)
Stare At The Sun Eh? Location: Somewhere over the rainbow	Nope.

12-09-2003, 09:36 AM	#18 (permalink)
Sho Nuff Addict Location: Harlem	It is the second most underrated action flick in American film history, right after Equilibrium. __________________ I know Nietzsche doesnt rhyme with peachy, but you sound like a pretentious prick when you correct me.

12-09-2003, 10:02 AM	#19 (permalink)
feelgood Free Mars! Location: I dunno, there's white people around me saying "eh" all the time	Second was fukin boring. Everything in the first hour of the movie is just something that's been repeated in hundreds of other action movies. I just sat in the theater and fell asleep. For an action movie...that's bad...just plain bad... __________________ Looking out the window, that's an act of war. Staring at my shoes, that's an act of war. Committing an act of war? Oh you better believe that's an act of war

12-09-2003, 10:51 AM	#20 (permalink)
Lord Humungus Addict Location: The Outer rim of HELL	they only cool part about MI:2 was the intro with him Rock Climbing scene. Other than that..I was disappointed. I didn't really feel like he was on some "Impossible" mission like the first. The suspense was horrible and...if they did the "mask" thing one more time...I would going to scream. They did it like 3 or 4 times in that movie. The did it in the first and it was done well. It should have stayed there. __________________ I am still searching for the movie this quote was in... "Make you strong, like bull", said in a russian accent Post here if you know anything...PLEASE!

12-10-2003, 09:37 AM	#22 (permalink)
IckUber Funran Location: Norman, OK	That movie was a pile of shit, he kicks a gun at the end, and it flys up into his hands. Im all about cheezy movies and fun films, but that was just fucking stupid. __________________ How much is y'all Piolkles?

12-11-2003, 07:37 PM	#23 (permalink)
kingthor Addict Location: wisconsin	the part i hate bout the movie is the bikes in the film were different.. i mean if u watched the movie the tires on the bike were different from on the road to off road.. i love the face changing stuff that was cool.. but i guess.. personal opinions on this one

12-13-2003, 01:10 AM	#24 (permalink)
bundy . Location: Tokyo	no, it totally deserves all it gets. first of all, that scene where apparently they are in the Aussie outback, and theres a shack and a kangaroo ... what a load of utter bullshit. then there´s RIchard Roxburghs crap Satha accent... he was great as Roger Rogerson in Blue Murder, but for even appearing in that MI2 disaster, he should be shot. then theres the whole Tom Cruise problem... well, this is just my 2c, but i hated every moment of that film. wish i could have that $10 back. __________________ Ohayo!!!