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THE MAC GOD · 04-27-2003, 03:49 PM

18 DAYS>>>> YEAH! (WELL...17 (Not technically) if they do a midnight showing... god I hope so...)

THE MAC GOD · 04-27-2003, 03:51 PM

So... anyone watch all 3 (soon to be 4) animatrix? What about the Final Flight of Osiris (the one before 'Dreamcatcher')? Gotta love the Wachowskis...

TrollInvestigtr · 04-27-2003, 03:57 PM

i watched all 3 animatrix. i liked the first two, thought the 3rd one was kinda weak.

THE MAC GOD · 04-27-2003, 04:04 PM

a little... I really not sure what the point was of the Trinity one... unless its just to show that anyone who persues her either dies or goes insane... LOOK OUT NEO!

Zotz · 04-27-2003, 06:15 PM

The trailer rocks!

GSRIDER · 04-28-2003, 01:36 PM

The first Animatrix was good but the others have left me kinda dry. I really liked the Matrix comixs that they were running on the site.

THE MAC GOD · 04-28-2003, 06:26 PM

17!!!

Mr.Deflok · 04-30-2003, 06:00 PM

http://www.readingcinemas.co.nz/
In New Zealand we're getting all Animatrix flicks screened at the theatres!!!! My ass is kicked!

Mr.Deflok · 04-30-2003, 06:03 PM

14 days and 10 hours for the midnight screening of the movie...

neoinoakleys · 05-02-2003, 06:25 AM

How cool is this. My boss is giving us half the day off on the 16th to go and see this movie as a group!!

WOOHOO!! Watch Matrix AND get paid for it!!!

Does life get any better??

Loup · 05-02-2003, 06:40 AM

Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy!!!
I can't wait for these to hit the theaters

THE MAC GOD · 05-02-2003, 07:33 AM

bought my tickets YESTERDAY! FOR THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT 10PM SHOWING... YEAH!!!

Boris37 · 05-02-2003, 08:06 AM

I think after every movie, the game: enter the matrix, and the animatrix this could go down as one of the greatest epics of all time. I am absolutely in love with the matrix story.

GSRIDER · 05-02-2003, 08:26 AM

Did anybody get into the illustrated matrix stories they had on the website... great art and great short matrix stories...

I do agree that this is going to be a great epic and one that will stand the test of time.

Mr.Deflok · 05-02-2003, 08:34 PM

Me: 11:59pm May 15th, before the rest of the world! HAHAHAHAHA! (i think)

Me is be in New Zealand

sngx1275 · 05-02-2003, 09:07 PM

Final Flight of the Osiris was awesome, too bad dreamcatcher sucked.
I've been trying to find Final Flight online, but haven't had any luck. Everythign on p2p is one that you can get from the website just titled incorrectly.

Mr.Deflok · 05-03-2003, 03:16 AM

I downloaded Osiris but it's crappy in-theatre rubbish. The DVD comes out June 3rd.

Realizm · 05-03-2003, 08:40 AM

Less than 15 Days, I am so excited...

Mr.Deflok · 05-03-2003, 03:57 PM

11 days 12 hours 4 minutes 19 seconds.

Mr.Deflok · 05-05-2003, 06:57 PM

http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/w...2R2_640_dl.mov

The conclusion to what is the best Animatrix short film released so far. I have yet to download it 'cause I've got a few things on my download que but I seriously cannot wait to see this one.

To my knowledge it hasn't been announced yet on matrix dot com so some of the mirrors won't be up and running yet.

Enjoy and please tell us how you like this one.

degrawj · 05-05-2003, 09:18 PM

bah, link doesn't work. i've been waiting for this for a while. and it's may now, so it SHOULD be released. >:-( grrrr...

Radio Monk33 · 05-05-2003, 10:06 PM

May 6th is what the site says...I guess I'll wake up early to download it before school.

Mr.Deflok · 05-06-2003, 01:30 AM

Sorry guys, they took it down because it got hammered when it wasn't even announced nor up on all their servers, should be up soon though, I'll post a working link as soon as, but if I'm late feel free to post it yourself.

Sorry if I've wasted your time, but it's not my fault!

Mr.Deflok · 05-06-2003, 01:16 PM

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.co...e_ep2_640.html

WORKING!!!!!!!

Mr.Deflok · 05-06-2003, 01:19 PM

The first link above is working too now

Kush · 05-06-2003, 03:03 PM

Downloading... i've been waiting for this for ages. It definately tops all the others for plot.

Radio Monk33 · 05-06-2003, 03:33 PM

Thanks for the heads up...I kinda forgot about them to be honest, so i appreciated the reminder. Unzip dammit..goddamn, 13 more minutes.

Tempboy · 05-06-2003, 07:47 PM

The remaining episodes are quite odd.
Especially Matriculation.

It's like one big acid trip.

The ones already released (Final Flight of the Osiris, Second Renaissance) are the best ones, IMO.

Radio Monk33 · 05-06-2003, 08:41 PM

Wooo, finally watched it. Pretty cool. I really enjoy the background stories that the animatrix has given us.

But cmon, how could the machines really take on the humans...I mean they could of been crushed by conventional warfare when it was a single city. And using nuclear weapons is pointless, armored machines can take the blasts quite well(ie tanks). Heh EMP weapons on the other hand...and I believe we have the technology today, no? I mean honestly, humans have excelled in warfare for so many years, no chance at all...

Mr.Deflok · 05-06-2003, 08:46 PM

Machines are tactically advantaged in that they have zero thought processing.

I've downloaded this clip 4 times already and each time it has failed. I'm beginning to get pissed off now. 5th time starting now.

Ganguro · 05-07-2003, 10:06 AM

where can i get final flight of the osiris?
im making a tape

Tempboy · 05-07-2003, 01:59 PM

Ganguro - newsgroups, irc are probably your best bet.

degrawj · 05-07-2003, 02:51 PM

i just downloaded and watched it. it was very good. not as good as the first one, but cool nonetheless. i can't wait for the movie!!

Thraeryn · 05-10-2003, 03:30 PM

OK. Here's a WARNING:

Don't read this if you don't want to have your opinions about The Matrix change (possibly dramatically.) I'm still not sure what I think about this topic, but the thoughts are running through my head and I wanted to discuss them. Also, don't go any further if you don't want to read a bit of a spoiler for some of the Animatrix shorts; this topic uses two of them as the basis for discusson.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

After having watched "The Second Rennaissance, Pts. 1 & 2" (see The Animatrix if you care to view/download the movies), I've come to a realization:

Humans are definitely not the protagonists of the Matrix world.

The movies I mentioned earlier describe the beginning of man's war with the machines. The long and short of them is that the machines didn't start the war. Mankind, in its typical fashion, gave no thought to the rights of the thinking creatures it created. When one took exception to being deactivated and "deactivated" its owners first, mankind furiously declared that EVERY one of its kind be obliterated.

The machines, wanting to continue their "lives", first fought back, then came to form their own, seperate nation. Being machines, they created superior machinery; being human, mankind declared war. Mankind tried to take away the power source of the machines, attempting once more to kill the entities that they had created and then treated with utter contempt. Not until this point, when the "livelihood" of each machine was threatened, did the machines attempt to eradicate man as man wished to eradicate them.

The REAL kicker is this: even when the machines had won, "subjugating" man, they did not kill their enemy. Instead of systematically destroying mankind, they managed to create a system wherein man could live and function, even if only in an "imaginary" world. As Cypher and some others who were liberated from the Matrix maintained, they could have continued living their lives in a "normal" world if they had not taken the red pill. Agent Smith tells Morpheus that the original attempt to create the Matrix was a blissful utopia!

The machines still have not tried to destroy mankind. Instead, they attempt to pre-emptively strike the small pockets of resistance that are even now determined to eradicate their way of life. It's the HUMANS that, in their attempts to destroy the machines, end up sacrificing their own kind for a victory that never comes. When an Agent is killed, an Agent's body isn't the one that's left lying on the pavement.

At this advanced stage in the story, it would be understandable if the machines were no longer willing to listen to an offer of truce; however, on an individual basis, they continue to be willing to trade a return to "normality" for information on the human resistance. What would happen if Neo came to the Agents (with the exception of Agent Smith, who has gone a bit loopy) with an offer?

Let me know what you think.

arael · 05-10-2003, 05:02 PM

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...867690-6068844

If you like the topic, you should check out these books: Taking the Red Pill: Science, Philosophy and Religion in The Matrix

The Matrix and Philosophy: Welcome to the Desert of the Real (Popular Culture and Philosophy, V. 3)

wondash · 05-10-2003, 05:08 PM

All nine Animatrix shorts will be released on DVD on or around June 4th. Another 'must have' DVD!

Mr.Deflok · 05-10-2003, 07:41 PM

Watched all of them in the theatres a few days back now I need the DVD!!!

Mr.Deflok · 05-10-2003, 07:44 PM

I had the very same discussion back in 2000, the humans deserved what they got. As seen in 2nd Renaissance the machines tried a diplomatic approach but it was futile and just as any species will fight to the death to retain survival. The machines did... and they won. The humans now live in relative peace and are co-existing with the machines acceptably.

Man's narrow mind brought about it's own "demise".

THE MAC GOD · 05-11-2003, 04:04 PM

OK... I JUST FIGURED OUT WHY THURDSAY IS THE RELEASE!!! GO to

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...7/?hub=SciTech

They want to have it on a very 'special' day... (and we already know it isn't because it's an international release... some places already have it)

Soda_BoB · 05-12-2003, 12:28 AM

Im gonna wait till the crowds die down a little before i go see it

04-27-2003, 03:49 PM	#41 (permalink)
THE MAC GOD Insane Location: In front of my keyboard.	18 DAYS>>>> YEAH! (WELL...17 (Not technically) if they do a midnight showing... god I hope so...) __________________ Why continue fighting? Is it for Love? Illusions. All as artificial as the Matrix itself, although only a human mind could invent something as insipid as Love.

04-27-2003, 03:51 PM	#42 (permalink)
THE MAC GOD Insane Location: In front of my keyboard.	So... anyone watch all 3 (soon to be 4) animatrix? What about the Final Flight of Osiris (the one before 'Dreamcatcher')? Gotta love the Wachowskis... __________________ Why continue fighting? Is it for Love? Illusions. All as artificial as the Matrix itself, although only a human mind could invent something as insipid as Love.

04-27-2003, 04:04 PM	#44 (permalink)
THE MAC GOD Insane Location: In front of my keyboard.	a little... I really not sure what the point was of the Trinity one... unless its just to show that anyone who persues her either dies or goes insane... LOOK OUT NEO! __________________ Why continue fighting? Is it for Love? Illusions. All as artificial as the Matrix itself, although only a human mind could invent something as insipid as Love.

04-28-2003, 01:36 PM	#46 (permalink)
GSRIDER spurt king Location: Out of my mind	The first Animatrix was good but the others have left me kinda dry. I really liked the Matrix comixs that they were running on the site. __________________ No signature at this time. Last edited by GSRIDER; 04-28-2003 at 01:39 PM..

04-28-2003, 06:26 PM	#47 (permalink)
THE MAC GOD Insane Location: In front of my keyboard.	17!!! __________________ Why continue fighting? Is it for Love? Illusions. All as artificial as the Matrix itself, although only a human mind could invent something as insipid as Love.

04-27-2003, 03:57 PM	#43 (permalink)
TrollInvestigtr Crazy	i watched all 3 animatrix. i liked the first two, thought the 3rd one was kinda weak.

04-27-2003, 06:15 PM	#45 (permalink)
Zotz There's someone in my head, but its not me	The trailer rocks!

04-30-2003, 06:00 PM	#48 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	http://www.readingcinemas.co.nz/ In New Zealand we're getting all Animatrix flicks screened at the theatres!!!! My ass is kicked!

04-30-2003, 06:03 PM	#49 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	14 days and 10 hours for the midnight screening of the movie...

05-02-2003, 06:25 AM	#50 (permalink)
neoinoakleys Psycho Location: Michigan	How cool is this. My boss is giving us half the day off on the 16th to go and see this movie as a group!! WOOHOO!! Watch Matrix AND get paid for it!!! Does life get any better?? __________________ It's My Duty to Please That Booty!!

05-02-2003, 06:40 AM	#51 (permalink)
Loup Pup no More Location: Voted the Best	Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy, Oh boy!!! I can't wait for these to hit the theaters __________________ "If you cannot lift the load off another's back, do not walk away. Try to lighten it." ~ Frank Tyger

05-02-2003, 07:33 AM	#52 (permalink)
THE MAC GOD Insane Location: In front of my keyboard.	bought my tickets YESTERDAY! FOR THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT 10PM SHOWING... YEAH!!! __________________ Why continue fighting? Is it for Love? Illusions. All as artificial as the Matrix itself, although only a human mind could invent something as insipid as Love.

05-02-2003, 08:06 AM	#53 (permalink)
Boris37 Crazy	I think after every movie, the game: enter the matrix, and the animatrix this could go down as one of the greatest epics of all time. I am absolutely in love with the matrix story. __________________ Fear attracts the fearful....

05-02-2003, 08:26 AM	#54 (permalink)
GSRIDER spurt king Location: Out of my mind	Did anybody get into the illustrated matrix stories they had on the website... great art and great short matrix stories... I do agree that this is going to be a great epic and one that will stand the test of time. __________________ No signature at this time.

05-02-2003, 08:34 PM	#55 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Me: 11:59pm May 15th, before the rest of the world! HAHAHAHAHA! (i think) Me is be in New Zealand

05-02-2003, 09:07 PM	#56 (permalink)
sngx1275 Loser Location: Central Missouri	Final Flight of the Osiris was awesome, too bad dreamcatcher sucked. I've been trying to find Final Flight online, but haven't had any luck. Everythign on p2p is one that you can get from the website just titled incorrectly.

05-03-2003, 03:16 AM	#57 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	I downloaded Osiris but it's crappy in-theatre rubbish. The DVD comes out June 3rd.

05-03-2003, 08:40 AM	#58 (permalink)
Realizm Insane Location: A fuzzy cloud.	Less than 15 Days, I am so excited...

05-03-2003, 03:57 PM	#59 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	11 days 12 hours 4 minutes 19 seconds.

05-05-2003, 06:57 PM	#60 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	The Second Renaisance Part 2 http://progressive1.stream.aol.com/w...2R2_640_dl.mov The conclusion to what is the best Animatrix short film released so far. I have yet to download it 'cause I've got a few things on my download que but I seriously cannot wait to see this one. To my knowledge it hasn't been announced yet on matrix dot com so some of the mirrors won't be up and running yet. Enjoy and please tell us how you like this one.

05-05-2003, 09:18 PM	#61 (permalink)
degrawj I'm still waiting... Location: West Linn, OR	bah, link doesn't work. i've been waiting for this for a while. and it's may now, so it SHOULD be released. >:-( grrrr...

05-05-2003, 10:06 PM	#62 (permalink)
Radio Monk33 Psycho	May 6th is what the site says...I guess I'll wake up early to download it before school. __________________ "Punk rock had this cool, political personal message. It was a bit more cerebral than just stupid cock rock, you know" -Kurt Cobain

05-06-2003, 01:30 AM	#63 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Sorry guys, they took it down because it got hammered when it wasn't even announced nor up on all their servers, should be up soon though, I'll post a working link as soon as, but if I'm late feel free to post it yourself. Sorry if I've wasted your time, but it's not my fault!

05-06-2003, 01:16 PM	#64 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.co...e_ep2_640.html WORKING!!!!!!!

05-06-2003, 01:19 PM	#65 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	The first link above is working too now

05-06-2003, 03:03 PM	#66 (permalink)
Kush Insane Location: Ecosse.	Downloading... i've been waiting for this for ages. It definately tops all the others for plot. __________________ I like this forum. A lot.

05-06-2003, 03:33 PM	#67 (permalink)
Radio Monk33 Psycho	Thanks for the heads up...I kinda forgot about them to be honest, so i appreciated the reminder. Unzip dammit..goddamn, 13 more minutes. __________________ "Punk rock had this cool, political personal message. It was a bit more cerebral than just stupid cock rock, you know" -Kurt Cobain

05-06-2003, 07:47 PM	#68 (permalink)
Tempboy Insane Location: The Red Mile	The remaining episodes are quite odd. Especially Matriculation. It's like one big acid trip. The ones already released (Final Flight of the Osiris, Second Renaissance) are the best ones, IMO.

05-06-2003, 08:41 PM	#69 (permalink)
Radio Monk33 Psycho	Wooo, finally watched it. Pretty cool. I really enjoy the background stories that the animatrix has given us. But cmon, how could the machines really take on the humans...I mean they could of been crushed by conventional warfare when it was a single city. And using nuclear weapons is pointless, armored machines can take the blasts quite well(ie tanks). Heh EMP weapons on the other hand...and I believe we have the technology today, no? I mean honestly, humans have excelled in warfare for so many years, no chance at all... __________________ "Punk rock had this cool, political personal message. It was a bit more cerebral than just stupid cock rock, you know" -Kurt Cobain

05-06-2003, 08:46 PM	#70 (permalink)
Mr.Deflok Blood + Fire Location: New Zealand	Machines are tactically advantaged in that they have zero thought processing. I've downloaded this clip 4 times already and each time it has failed. I'm beginning to get pissed off now. 5th time starting now.

05-07-2003, 10:06 AM	#71 (permalink)
Ganguro Army of Me	where can i get final flight of the osiris? im making a tape

05-07-2003, 01:59 PM	#72 (permalink)
Tempboy Insane Location: The Red Mile	Ganguro - newsgroups, irc are probably your best bet.

05-07-2003, 02:51 PM	#73 (permalink)
degrawj I'm still waiting... Location: West Linn, OR	i just downloaded and watched it. it was very good. not as good as the first one, but cool nonetheless. i can't wait for the movie!!

05-10-2003, 03:30 PM	#74 (permalink)
Thraeryn Loser	The Matrix: Here's the twist. . . . OK. Here's a WARNING: Don't read this if you don't want to have your opinions about The Matrix change (possibly dramatically.) I'm still not sure what I think about this topic, but the thoughts are running through my head and I wanted to discuss them. Also, don't go any further if you don't want to read a bit of a spoiler for some of the Animatrix shorts; this topic uses two of them as the basis for discusson. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ After having watched "The Second Rennaissance, Pts. 1 & 2" (see The Animatrix if you care to view/download the movies), I've come to a realization: Humans are definitely not the protagonists of the Matrix world. The movies I mentioned earlier describe the beginning of man's war with the machines. The long and short of them is that the machines didn't start the war. Mankind, in its typical fashion, gave no thought to the rights of the thinking creatures it created. When one took exception to being deactivated and "deactivated" its owners first, mankind furiously declared that EVERY one of its kind be obliterated. The machines, wanting to continue their "lives", first fought back, then came to form their own, seperate nation. Being machines, they created superior machinery; being human, mankind declared war. Mankind tried to take away the power source of the machines, attempting once more to kill the entities that they had created and then treated with utter contempt. Not until this point, when the "livelihood" of each machine was threatened, did the machines attempt to eradicate man as man wished to eradicate them. The REAL kicker is this: even when the machines had won, "subjugating" man, they did not kill their enemy. Instead of systematically destroying mankind, they managed to create a system wherein man could live and function, even if only in an "imaginary" world. As Cypher and some others who were liberated from the Matrix maintained, they could have continued living their lives in a "normal" world if they had not taken the red pill. Agent Smith tells Morpheus that the original attempt to create the Matrix was a blissful utopia! The machines still have not tried to destroy mankind. Instead, they attempt to pre-emptively strike the small pockets of resistance that are even now determined to eradicate their way of life. It's the HUMANS that, in their attempts to destroy the machines, end up sacrificing their own kind for a victory that never comes. When an Agent is killed, an Agent's body isn't the one that's left lying on the pavement. At this advanced stage in the story, it would be understandable if the machines were no longer willing to listen to an offer of truce; however, on an individual basis, they continue to be willing to trade a return to "normality" for information on the human resistance. What would happen if Neo came to the Agents (with the exception of Agent Smith, who has gone a bit loopy) with an offer? Let me know what you think.

05-10-2003, 05:02 PM	#75 (permalink)
arael Banned	http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/se...867690-6068844 If you like the topic, you should check out these books: Taking the Red Pill: Science, Philosophy and Religion in The Matrix The Matrix and Philosophy: Welcome to the Desert of the Real (Popular Culture and Philosophy, V. 3)