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AL9045 · 08-26-2003, 02:40 PM

We all know FOX has cancelled shows for some retarded reason or another, but do you think they will continue this trend or break through this year?

Psivage · 08-26-2003, 02:44 PM

They will continue the trend.

coke babies · 08-26-2003, 03:19 PM

What new shows are on FOX now that aren't worth being cancelled?

AL9045 · 08-26-2003, 03:40 PM

The OC.

The_Dude · 08-26-2003, 03:49 PM

the got the shitty shows on and the good ones cancelled.

and they're brining more and more shitty trailer trash stuff.

santafe5000 · 08-26-2003, 03:50 PM

Really, they need to cancel Fox News. Then maybe they would be FAIR AND BALANCED.

AL9045 · 08-26-2003, 06:25 PM

Er...FOX News isn't on FOX, it's on Cable.

But cancelling Family Guy and Dark Angel are just some of the bad moves...

GarthInPittsburgh · 08-26-2003, 07:10 PM

Dark Angel was a crappy show, but it did have jessica alba in it.

The_Dude · 08-26-2003, 07:50 PM

add john doe and futurama to the list of good shows that they cancelled.

and wtf did they replace it with ? BANZAI?? what the FUCK? what they hell are the newscorp exec's smokin?

Gman · 08-26-2003, 07:55 PM

And Banzai is already off the air.... Smooth move Fox!

noblejr · 08-26-2003, 08:02 PM

Yes. Banzai is being replaced with Futurama re-runs!

Sen · 08-26-2003, 08:39 PM

Family Guy was freakin' hilarious. I can't believe they cancelled that one. Wasn't it nominated for an emmy?

coke babies · 08-26-2003, 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sen
Family Guy was freakin' hilarious. I can't believe they cancelled that one. Wasn't it nominated for an emmy?

It won an emmy for the "This House is Freakin' Sweet" song.

RedCometChar · 08-26-2003, 09:14 PM

No arguments with the general consensus here. They had THE funniest show on TV, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, and cancelled it not once, but twice. Not even a set of reruns, and what did it get replaced with, Oliver Beene? No big loss, but I notice they're not running that anymore, either.

phukraut · 08-26-2003, 09:37 PM

i miss Millenium..

burgerdog · 08-27-2003, 12:02 AM

The OC won't be cancelled. It's their new 90210.

And everyone cancels their animated shows, because they don't do as well. (Family Guy was only producing Half-seasons for a while before it got cancelled) Although they all seem to be insanely popular w/ every forum crowd I have seen

Mr.Deflok · 08-27-2003, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by phukraut
i miss Millenium..

Frank Black rocked my socks, fuck FOX.

teshadoh · 08-27-2003, 05:27 AM

Let me think - my favorite shows of the past 10 years: Andy Richter, Greg The Bunny, Futurama, The Tick, Family Guy - all canceled within a year (except for Futurama's delayed cancellation).

Fox gave us some of the best shows - & took them away from us - fuckers.

ninety09 · 08-27-2003, 07:09 AM

Hrmm, I really liked banzai

madmann · 08-27-2003, 08:18 AM

Apparently Fox is using a business model that doesn't include airing shows that don't make money. Go figure.

Kaos · 08-27-2003, 08:24 AM

The trend of cancelling shows will continue for Fox when they keep putting on crappy shows in place of good ones.

Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't every new show for Sunday night on Fox already been cancelled/didn't last longer than half a season? (The Pitts, Oliver Bean, Banzai, etc)

Morons at Fox should have never cancelled Andy Richter

theinfamous · 08-27-2003, 09:09 AM

i'm guessing that the fan response will one day sway fox in making more intelligent decisions. but that day seems very far away...

djtestudo · 08-27-2003, 10:18 AM

Seems to me that it all went downhill somewhere between Family Guy being canceled and the X Files leaving.

I didn't even watch Family Guy until the very end of it's run, but wish I had.

Aaron0000 · 08-28-2003, 03:03 PM

I think the OC sucks. Cancel that too

Strelich · 08-29-2003, 11:54 PM

Millennium rules! I adored the first season, the show I always jokingly referred to as "the most depressing show on network television" back in 1998. Lance Hendrikson and Robert Stack had that deadpan monotone authority voice thing going.

Lone Gunmen, Firefly, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Futurama, Family Guy...they're right up there with ABC in cancelling promising series.

pointfourfive · 08-30-2003, 07:46 AM

At least they haven't screwed up completely and The Shield is still going strong (at least as far as I know).

JcL · 08-30-2003, 09:21 AM

FOX wants another Simpsons in terms of ratings for its animated programs it would seem. The Family Guy and Futurama are both far superior IMO to the new Simpsons episodes - but they don't reach the mass market because they aren't as accessible.

Does anyone have any figures on the actual ratings these shows did receive?

Derwood · 08-30-2003, 11:08 AM

FYI - Family Guy had finished producing new episodes at least a year before it went off the air. They just played every episode they could until they ran out.

I'm pretty sure that the Family Guy staff pulled their own plug. FOX didn't cancel them

t3m3st · 08-30-2003, 08:54 PM

CANELLING FIREFLY!!!!!!!! STUPID WHY STUPID STUPID WHY!?!?!?!?

To all FireFly fans out there: Buy the DVD's in December!!!!!
Help Joss get his movie!!!

Halx · 08-30-2003, 10:57 PM

Nobody mentioned Fast Lane?

That show rocked! I really really enjoyed it. Oh well.

crfpilot · 08-31-2003, 09:34 AM

Well the week of 18-24 they only have one show in the top 20:

click here
Nielsen Media Research Top 20 Week of Aug. 18-24

Rank Program Name Network Day Time Rating Share Households
1 CSI CBS 9:04PM
Thu 9.7 16.0 10,301,000
2 WITHOUT A TRACE CBS 10:03PM
Thu 8.5 15.0 9,056,000
3 CBS SUNDAY MOVIE NBC 9:00PM
Sun 8.1 14.0 8,592,000
4 60 MINUTES CBS 7:00PM
Sun 8.0 16.0 8,552,000
5 LAW AND ORDER CBS 10:00PM
Wed 7.8 14.0 8,281,000
6 NFL PRE-SEASON FTBL SP-1(S) CBS 8:07PM
Mon 7.4 13.0 7,939,000
7 CSI: MIAMI CBS 10:00PM
Mon 7.3 13.0 7,770,000
8 EVERYBODY LOVES RAYMOND NBC 8:59PM
Mon 7.3 12.0 7,766,000
9 KING OF QUEENS CBS 9:30PM
Mon 7.2 11.0 7,646,000
10 LAW AND ORDER:SVU-FRI 9PM CBS 9:00PM
Fri 7.2 13.0 7,691,000
11 48 HOURS INVESTIGATES WED NBC 10:00PM
Wed 7.0 12.0 7,493,000
12 20/20-FRI NBC 10:00PM
Fri 6.8 13.0 7,260,000
13 FRIENDS NBC 8:00PM
Thu 6.7 13.0 7,102,000
14 LAW AND ORDER:SVU-TUE CBS 10:00PM
Tue 6.7 12.0 7,156,000
15 WITHOUT A TRACE-SUN NBC 8:00PM
Sun 6.7 12.0 7,174,000
16 AMAZING RACE: 4 FOX 8:00PM
Thu 6.3 11.0 6,721,000
17 BIG BROTHER 4-WED NBC 9:00PM
Wed 6.3 11.0 6,708,000
18 FOR LOVE OR MONEY 2 CBS 9:00PM
Mon 6.3 10.0 6,700,000
19 LAW AND ORDER:CRIM INTENT NBC 9:00PM
Sun 6.2 10.0 6,643,000
20 PRE-SEASON SHOWCASE-1(S) CBS 8:00PM
Mon 6.1 12.0 6,522,000

AL9045 · 08-31-2003, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pointfourfive
At least they haven't screwed up completely and The Shield is still going strong (at least as far as I know).

Well the shield is on FX which is a cable network, plus it's won a couple of Emmy's, so I don't think FOX will touch it, but you never know.

juanvaldes · 08-31-2003, 03:57 PM

"Nielsen Media Research" is no better then asking 10 people on the street. They have around 50K boxes out at one time and then just extrapolate out the numbers. So take the total and divide by like 10,000 that is how many in there tiny pool watched the show. All of there ratings are bullshit and might as well be pulled out of your ass.

Sadly the suits seem to think they are the word of god or some shit...

JcL · 08-31-2003, 04:19 PM

Statistically speaking, 50k people should be enough to overcome many biases in the data, I think? While not a huge % of the whole, its still a large population. I'm not sure how the Nielsen ratings work, but if the 50k boxes are distributed in some kind of random sample then the numbers when extrapolated should be relatively accurate. Surely not a perfect system, but what is there that could be better?

To have all new TVs coming out monitor (if its even possible) what shows you watch without any volunteer program could likely be considered an invasion of privacy.

dragon2fire · 08-31-2003, 05:17 PM

tidus that was funny

you know they still have the simposons

Fremen · 08-31-2003, 05:23 PM

They just moved 'Boston Public' to Fridays, along with 'Wanda At Large'.
Goodbye shows, you got screwed by a FOX.

ZeliG · 09-01-2003, 03:07 PM

I still hold a grudge from when FOX canceled The Critic and The Tick way back when
lets not even mention Futurama and Family Guy
it becomes a love/hate thing cuz they give me the best animated shows and then they snatch them away from me.

BubblegumTeflon · 09-01-2003, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ZeliG
it becomes a love/hate thing cuz they give me the best animated shows and then they snatch them away from me.

Nickelodeon did the same bait and switch with Zim so Fox isn't alone when it comes to being stupid. It's times like that where I want a TiVo to hang on to those shows, Until then I am continuing my boycott of all TV and just buying or renting the DVDs of stuff when they come out.

Dano069 · 09-02-2003, 12:22 PM

If they would leave a show in one time slot and let it build an audience, there'd be no problems. All the moving around, especially around the Simpsons (great lead in), tends to frustrate people. My son just bought Family Guy on DVD. That's probably the only way to go these days.

frankx · 09-03-2003, 07:42 AM

Fox cancelled Family Guy. Enough said.

08-26-2003, 02:40 PM	#1 (permalink)
AL9045 Addict Location: Virginia	The Stupidity that is FOX We all know FOX has cancelled shows for some retarded reason or another, but do you think they will continue this trend or break through this year?

08-26-2003, 03:49 PM	#5 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	the got the shitty shows on and the good ones cancelled. and they're brining more and more shitty trailer trash stuff. __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

08-26-2003, 03:50 PM	#6 (permalink)
santafe5000 EVIL! Location: Southwest of nowhere	Really, they need to cancel Fox News. Then maybe they would be FAIR AND BALANCED. __________________ When all else fails, QUIT.

08-26-2003, 07:10 PM	#8 (permalink)
GarthInPittsburgh Crazy	Dark Angel was a crappy show, but it did have jessica alba in it. __________________ i was going to call 911, but I was downloading a file

08-26-2003, 07:50 PM	#9 (permalink)
The_Dude The GrandDaddy of them all! Location: Austin, TX	add john doe and futurama to the list of good shows that they cancelled. and wtf did they replace it with ? BANZAI?? what the FUCK? what they hell are the newscorp exec's smokin? __________________ "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." - Darrel K Royal

08-26-2003, 02:44 PM	#2 (permalink)
Psivage Psycho	They will continue the trend.

08-26-2003, 03:19 PM	#3 (permalink)
coke babies Crazy	What new shows are on FOX now that aren't worth being cancelled?

08-26-2003, 03:40 PM	#4 (permalink)
AL9045 Addict Location: Virginia	The OC.

08-26-2003, 06:25 PM	#7 (permalink)
AL9045 Addict Location: Virginia	Er...FOX News isn't on FOX, it's on Cable. But cancelling Family Guy and Dark Angel are just some of the bad moves...

08-26-2003, 07:55 PM	#10 (permalink)
Gman Insane Location: Down South In Louisiana	And Banzai is already off the air.... Smooth move Fox!

08-26-2003, 08:02 PM	#11 (permalink)
noblejr Crazy Location: Atlanta	Yes. Banzai is being replaced with Futurama re-runs!

08-26-2003, 08:39 PM	#12 (permalink)
Sen Insane Location: Midwest	Family Guy was freakin' hilarious. I can't believe they cancelled that one. Wasn't it nominated for an emmy? __________________ "I want to announce my presence with authority!" "You want to what?" "I want to announce my presence with authority!!"

08-26-2003, 09:14 PM	#14 (permalink)
RedCometChar Not Brand Ecch! Location: New Orleans	No arguments with the general consensus here. They had THE funniest show on TV, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, and cancelled it not once, but twice. Not even a set of reruns, and what did it get replaced with, Oliver Beene? No big loss, but I notice they're not running that anymore, either. __________________ Killing that robot makes me want to go home.

08-26-2003, 09:37 PM	#15 (permalink)
phukraut Addict	i miss Millenium..

08-27-2003, 12:02 AM	#16 (permalink)
burgerdog Tilted Location: All Under Heaven	The OC won't be cancelled. It's their new 90210. And everyone cancels their animated shows, because they don't do as well. (Family Guy was only producing Half-seasons for a while before it got cancelled) Although they all seem to be insanely popular w/ every forum crowd I have seen

08-27-2003, 05:27 AM	#18 (permalink)
teshadoh Insane	Let me think - my favorite shows of the past 10 years: Andy Richter, Greg The Bunny, Futurama, The Tick, Family Guy - all canceled within a year (except for Futurama's delayed cancellation). Fox gave us some of the best shows - & took them away from us - fuckers.

08-27-2003, 07:09 AM	#19 (permalink)
ninety09 Flavour of the Weak Location: Canada	Hrmm, I really liked banzai

08-27-2003, 08:18 AM	#20 (permalink)
madmann Upright	Apparently Fox is using a business model that doesn't include airing shows that don't make money. Go figure.

08-27-2003, 08:24 AM	#21 (permalink)
Kaos Ssssssssss Location: Ontario	The trend of cancelling shows will continue for Fox when they keep putting on crappy shows in place of good ones. Correct me if I am wrong, but hasn't every new show for Sunday night on Fox already been cancelled/didn't last longer than half a season? (The Pitts, Oliver Bean, Banzai, etc) Morons at Fox should have never cancelled Andy Richter

08-27-2003, 09:09 AM	#22 (permalink)
theinfamous Crazy Location: Cali	i'm guessing that the fan response will one day sway fox in making more intelligent decisions. but that day seems very far away...

08-27-2003, 10:18 AM	#23 (permalink)
djtestudo Baltimoron Location: Beeeeeautiful Bel Air, MD	Seems to me that it all went downhill somewhere between Family Guy being canceled and the X Files leaving. I didn't even watch Family Guy until the very end of it's run, but wish I had. __________________ "Final thought: I just rented Michael Moore's Bowling for Columbine. Frankly, it was the worst sports movie I've ever seen." --Peter Schmuck, The (Baltimore) Sun

08-28-2003, 03:03 PM	#24 (permalink)
Aaron0000 Crazy Location: CA	I think the OC sucks. Cancel that too

08-29-2003, 11:54 PM	#25 (permalink)
Strelich occasional iconoclast Location: Flushing, MI	Millennium rules! I adored the first season, the show I always jokingly referred to as "the most depressing show on network television" back in 1998. Lance Hendrikson and Robert Stack had that deadpan monotone authority voice thing going. Lone Gunmen, Firefly, Andy Richter Controls the Universe, Futurama, Family Guy...they're right up there with ABC in cancelling promising series. __________________ ----- Monty this seems strange to me. The movies had that movie thing, but nonsense has a welcome ring and heroes don't come easy.

08-30-2003, 07:46 AM	#26 (permalink)
pointfourfive Upright	At least they haven't screwed up completely and The Shield is still going strong (at least as far as I know).

08-30-2003, 09:21 AM	#27 (permalink)
JcL Crazy Location: Simi Valley, CA	FOX wants another Simpsons in terms of ratings for its animated programs it would seem. The Family Guy and Futurama are both far superior IMO to the new Simpsons episodes - but they don't reach the mass market because they aren't as accessible. Does anyone have any figures on the actual ratings these shows did receive? __________________ "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth then lies." - Nietzsche

08-30-2003, 11:08 AM	#28 (permalink)
Derwood Who You Crappin? Location: Everywhere and Nowhere	FYI - Family Guy had finished producing new episodes at least a year before it went off the air. They just played every episode they could until they ran out. I'm pretty sure that the Family Guy staff pulled their own plug. FOX didn't cancel them __________________ "You can't shoot a country until it becomes a democracy." - Willravel

08-30-2003, 08:54 PM	#29 (permalink)
t3m3st Vroom! Location: Toronto	CANELLING FIREFLY!!!!!!!! STUPID WHY STUPID STUPID WHY!?!?!?!? To all FireFly fans out there: Buy the DVD's in December!!!!! Help Joss get his movie!!! __________________ I do it for the rare drops

08-30-2003, 10:57 PM	#30 (permalink)
Halx Please touch this. Owner/Admin Location: Manhattan	Nobody mentioned Fast Lane? That show rocked! I really really enjoyed it. Oh well. __________________ You have found this post informative. -The Administrator [Don't Feed The Animals]

08-31-2003, 03:57 PM	#33 (permalink)
juanvaldes Banned Location: shittown, CA	"Nielsen Media Research" is no better then asking 10 people on the street. They have around 50K boxes out at one time and then just extrapolate out the numbers. So take the total and divide by like 10,000 that is how many in there tiny pool watched the show. All of there ratings are bullshit and might as well be pulled out of your ass. Sadly the suits seem to think they are the word of god or some shit...

08-31-2003, 04:19 PM	#34 (permalink)
JcL Crazy Location: Simi Valley, CA	Statistically speaking, 50k people should be enough to overcome many biases in the data, I think? While not a huge % of the whole, its still a large population. I'm not sure how the Nielsen ratings work, but if the 50k boxes are distributed in some kind of random sample then the numbers when extrapolated should be relatively accurate. Surely not a perfect system, but what is there that could be better? To have all new TVs coming out monitor (if its even possible) what shows you watch without any volunteer program could likely be considered an invasion of privacy. __________________ "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth then lies." - Nietzsche

08-31-2003, 05:17 PM	#35 (permalink)
dragon2fire Junkie	tidus that was funny you know they still have the simposons

08-31-2003, 05:23 PM	#36 (permalink)
Fremen With a mustache, the cool factor would be too much Location: left side of my couch, East Texas	They just moved 'Boston Public' to Fridays, along with 'Wanda At Large'. Goodbye shows, you got screwed by a FOX. __________________ Google

09-01-2003, 03:07 PM	#37 (permalink)
ZeliG Upright	I still hold a grudge from when FOX canceled The Critic and The Tick way back when lets not even mention Futurama and Family Guy it becomes a love/hate thing cuz they give me the best animated shows and then they snatch them away from me.

09-02-2003, 12:22 PM	#39 (permalink)
Dano069 is Nucking Futs! Location: On the edge of sanity	If they would leave a show in one time slot and let it build an audience, there'd be no problems. All the moving around, especially around the Simpsons (great lead in), tends to frustrate people. My son just bought Family Guy on DVD. That's probably the only way to go these days. __________________ I may look attentive, but I'm taking peeks down your blouse faster than the human eye can follow.