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I hope I spelled the title right.
"The jungle was nice for hale and then came guu"
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cheerios

fucking AWESOME. makes me cry every time I watch it. Really, the movie is set "somewhere in the middle of the series". if you want hte whole thing, beginning to end, I HIGHLY reccomend the series. and, to boot, the english is awesome.

Tempboy

I haven't watched the Cowboy Bebop movie, but I heard it was terrible. At least, in comparison to the series.

CaptainFluffer

Well whoever told you that should kill themselves in real life.

Ganguro

lets not go telling people to kill themselves because of a sucky movie. The series sucked too .

So i hear that cartoon network just picked up FLCL and Ble Gender as their next series.. This could be good or bad in my opinion. FLCL is a great series, and he dubs are actually tolerable.. but it's so short they're going to rerun it into the ground. Bluie Gender..well.. the dubs are horrid! Also I hope people dont compare it to gundam too much, but it's a decent series.. I've even started seeing it show up in suncoast/ Fry's for sale now. Why haven't they picked up hacksign yet?





Oh and 3zos I dont appreciate you taking potshots at me.

Atomsk

dubs usually make my ears bleed. i watched berserk with fansubs almost 2 years ago and they are just now finishing up the DVD's. frankly i can't stand the subs. maybe because berserk was such a big deal to me i feel like they trashed it. however take the new akira DVD i can't stand that dub but i loved the original dub that was on the VHS cassette. so much in fact that i'm ripping my DVD's video and the VHS audio and merging them into a new DVD with the original english dub from 10 years ago or whatever.

CaptainFluffer

I enjoyed Cowboy Bebop, but that's just MY opinion. I can only offer it and you can either accept it or decline.

Cartoon Network should not have FLCL. A lot of cartoon network fans (not anime fans) will just complain that it's stupid and makes no sense. That's why a lot of people hate the biggest anime poison that's responsible for giving people the wrong idea about anime: Dragonball Z. Honestly, I can't stand how this show carries on. I've only seen a couple episodes and I just dont see how anyone can see that as watchable.

As for dubs...
I hear the old akira dub was good, but I've heard the new one and it sucks. I'll somewhat give a dub a chance at least, but most of the time I prefer subs. Currently I'm watching GTO on DVD and I havent even heard the sub. The dub is pretty darn funny.

Atomsk: I just told my friend (His nickname is Kaneda) about your DVD/VHS:Video and Audio idea and he says 2 words. "Thank god". I'll take a copy of that if you actually do it

I wonder how the new Akira Live action movie will turn out...

CaptainFluffer

By the way...that's a pretty nice broad generalization about all of us by saying that we need to watch something that what's on TV. Only thing I've seen on TV is...nothing. :P Especially anime because I'd rather dl it and get to watch all the episodes simultaneously rather than go day to day watching edited CRAP.

omnigod

I loved Trigun, Bebop, 3x3 eyes, saber marionette J, Escaflowne..

Agreed with the poster right above me, sorry cant remember your name . All the stuff i have seen has been either bought on dvd or downloaded

CaptainFluffer

I spend too much on dvds, but hey...you can never have too much anime

Chamberdweller

First I just want to say I only read up to Ganguro's second post, but thank GOD somebody said it. There are other anime out there beside what's on cartoon network(although most of the show 's there rule) but go and buy something else. He mentioned some of the best Excel Saga,Jin Roh, Dragon Half. Just give some anime a chance and as he said if your broke get bit torrent or kazaa and download some(just be sure to buy it if you like it

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3zos

Im sorry, but all the people who say cowboy bebop sucks, yet continue to mention anime that I would consider to be much in the same vein as good, what is wrong with you? This is a great series where all the episodes stand on their own well, yet fit together into a very complete whole. On top up that it has some of the greatest anime music ever (escaflowne is also v. good)..

I thought the movie was well done as well, it wasn't meant so much to add to the story, but be just another bebop adventure. I would also say that the ending to the bebop series was probably the most emotional and well done ending that I have seen, what other anime can you watch and really feel that sad? (in a good way)...

This series gets so much good press for a reason..

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I thought Berserk was pretty good. Bascially a bloodfest set in Medieval era...but with a great story. All hell broke lose at the end of the series...hopefully they'll show Guts get his revenge in the future with that crazy sword of his.

oldtimer

Oooooooh, yes, Beserk was good; only seeing one episode of it I know. But off the top of my head, it's a dead tie between Akira/Gundam Wing Endless Waltz/ & Metropolis. There's more I'm sure.

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CaptainFluffer

Alright...

While saying "Bebop sucks" was kind of harsh, (You shoulda stated that it was your opinion) I severly enjoyed this show, but at the same time, I think sometimes it's little too overrated. I love the music, I love the story, I love the characters. I have all the DVDs, and I enjoy it just like any other anime.

acpower

Initial D because cars + anime rules

CrazyIntent

This is one of the reasons why I think Cowboy Bebop is overrated...because everyone says it's the greatest thing since sliced bread. I don't think it sucks, but I've seen better.

One of the major problems I have are the plots (or lack of). For the most part they are just filler episodes after filler episodes. Basically what happens is that they 1) go out for the bounty 2) somehow lose all or most of the bounty 3) someone dies 4) back on the ship complaining on how they lost the bounty. Vicious could have been one of the most kick-ass villians of all-time, but thoughout most of the first part of the series, he is in the background with only a few minutes of airtime.

The animation, artwork, and music of Bebop is top-notch, but I compare it to the best anime I've seen (Evangelion and Escaflowne) and Bebop doesn't stand out. However, some ppl probably don't like Evangelion or Escaflowne, so different strokes for different folks I guess.

CaptainFluffer

" I don't think it sucks, but I've seen better." - I agree 110%


acpower. Initial D is cool but it'll be butchered when TokyoPOP gives it to cartoon network.

tardka

That's what the first episode was, but the manga picks up where the anime left off. Luckily the anime follows the manga pretty closely so you don't miss much from the manga if you skip the parts the anime covered. Definately my favorite series, the character development was beyond that which I've seen before.

obediah

I enjoyed evangelion, berserk, and grave of the fireflies.

I have a soft spot for the crappy dupped robotech cartoons, because that is what I saw as a kid. When I hit my mid-life crisis I will be looking for a cyclone!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bebop is fun stuff, and good. It a pretty safe bet that if you hate it that your either anime-proof or an elitest snob. A western anime-snob is a pretty sad creature.

I also enjoy watching the old Lupins on cartoon network. I certainly ain't paying for them on DVD, but they are fun.

Ganguro

lets stop calling people names please.
Some people dislike different series for diferent reasons. Beebop is a bit overrated, the stories arent coheisive at all and they provide little to no backstory for the charaters, or motivation for their actions, but so do LOTS OF SERIES. Just Cowboy Beebop is usually the first "good" series a lot of westerners get to see to completion. Just like an old relationship; you'll always love your first..

3zos

I dunno, I personally like it because in many cases, you can watch each episode independantly of each other (a very different format than Escaflowne or Evangelion). While it wasn't my "first" series, it's still a very well made, if not a little fluffy at parts, anime.

Regarding Initial D, anyone heading up to Big Apple Anime Fest this year? Mitsubishi is sponsoring the event due to Initial D headlining, should be pretty fun. Wonder if the rest of the lineup would warrant a trip up to NYC this year...

(the other ezos)

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CaptainFluffer

Someone mentioned my first anime: Robotech! I never even saw any as a kid either. My freind made me watch the the first 4 episodes a few years ago and I picked up the whole series last year, and thus the anime addiction began...

CaptainFluffer

I had to wait a whole year for Robotech:Battlecry to come out, and even though I'm waiting for Initial D the video game, but I've ripped all the Initial D soundtracks my friend bought to the Xbox hard drive then I plug into Rallisport Challege and I drift my way to success.

3zos

The thing that is so good about bebop is that the backgrounds of the characters are there, they just arn't blatently thrown into your face. If you watch closely there are countless clues about the differnt characters pasts, and with a little thinking, you can learn quite a bit. Just because one episode dosn't lead into the next, if you watch the whole series together it becomes pretty concrete if you ask me. I watched bebop when it first came out, and I had watched a good deal more anime before that. I still love eva, but thats not a series that you can just pick up and watch one episode when your bored, and requires a bit more thought to get than bebop (although both have a little detective work to be done). I like bebop because its so many differnt things put into one, and you can be as involved in it as you feel like, and still have a good time. and can you beat the music?

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CaptainFluffer

This is one of the ONLY anime series I will like because I can watch just one episode. As for the music, it's a-mazing too, IMO i've probably heard better.

CrazyIntent

Well, off the top of my head, I think the music from Escaflowne and .hack//SIGN is better than Bebop.

3zos

.hack//SIGN!!! :\


Escaflowne is nice, but lacks the variety, plus I find that you can listen to bebop music on its own and its still great..

But I would say Escaflowne comes in second.

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Explosive

Naruto, one of the best shows in Japan right now.

striderkevin

Cowboy Bebop is one of the better series I've seen, maybe the best. I also enjoy Iria and Evangelion, I thought Escaflowne was kinda cool too.

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oldtimer

No, no, no! Bebop is not the best!! People open your eyes! Buy and search for every popular anime other than Adult Swim's Inuyasha, Cowboy Bebop, and Trigun. There's <i><b>MILLIONS MORE</b></i>!! Now, Bebop is awesome it interacts with your mind as Spike and the gang do their own thing. Not to mention the graphics, hip but old jazzy music that let's you know their old school a little bit, and then the calmness. I have to say I love the calmness especially Spike's. Up until the point where they save up all the action they can and at the climax the action explodes until you're left saying: "Ohhhhh shit, Spike! Dodge those bullets! *He has some nice rythym/flow* Oh, yeah, I hope Faye's ok! *Shows scene of her relieved as well a little jiggle*" Viewer's responses mainly consist of this. And, the <i>slinky girl</i> who I have not bothered to memorize her name. Ugh, I mean if I watch all 26 episodes then she would mean something to me. Right now however, she does not.

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tweekman

Cowboy bebop and trigun, i used to be all into dbz but now its just..

Jonsgirl

Ok, Ganguro, you can hate me too. I love Cowboy Bebop! I have been exposed to more anime than what they show on adult swim, thank you very much, but I still think that Bebop beats most of it.

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Eiresol

Sure you have, that was just a fancy way to disguise saying they like Digimon.

Anyway. Favourite anime would be in no real particular order:
Cowboy Bebop
Trigun (from what I've seen, about half of the series)
GiTS: SAC (so, so, so much better than the film imo)
Hellsing (although the dub is a bit dodgy on the dvds, other than that it's a great series)

Next on my list when I finish Trigun will be Initial D.
I watch all anime subbed, don't like it dubbed at all. I don't care if the CB dub was really well done, after seeing it all in Japanese it just sounds wrong.
Also, most of the above are downloaded due to the severe lack of region 2 anime and the ass raping of us Europeans over prices for region 1 dvds.
Although Japan is in fact region 2, I don't even want to think of the costs to import from there. Although the GiTS : SAC dvd set would be super sexy.

3zos

haha, I didn't even think anyone would mention digimon, so it didn't even come into my head


Standalone is great, I am a huge ghost in the shell fan, and this series has been really great so far (through episode 18) It has the same "you can watch one episode, or watch them all" thing that bebop does, although I think it will come together more in the end. It also brings ghost in the shell closer to the manga than the movie did, just because it has more time to play with (although the movie is still one of my faviorites)..

Some other new and good series playing in Japan right now are:

wolf's rain, which I like, but seems to be moving a little slow at the moment (or maybe thats the lack or new episodes during the summer..)

Macross Zero, a 4 episode OVA (two are out so far) has some amazing animation, although I don't know if it could possibly beat macross plus for story..

Last Exile, also has very good animation, and seems intresting so far..

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CaptainFluffer

I liked Digital Monsters (Digimon) well at least the first 2 seasons of it, then it got kind of repetitive.

Eiresol

Hell I liked Pokemon until Brock left. That Tracey guy sucked.
Although Brock came back I was just too detatched then to go back. Who knows what kind of Pokemon there on now, last time I saw it, it was Johto. So much for 150 Pokemon, more like 1500.

Marburg

Love Hina - all the way.
I think I'm really influenced by the manga though.
It's just really cute.
I find that it's real lack of any direct is really relaxing. You don't have to focus on any real plot (i'm sounding really dumb here) and you can just enjoy it on a really basic level. Fun!

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CaptainFluffer

Read a little of the manga in stores, and I'm gonna buy some this friday when I get the next dvd of GTO

3zos

I liked pokemon and even monster rancher for a little while, but digimon just didn't really work for me...

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