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Old 03-11-2011, 09:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Movie Franchises You Have Given Up On.

So, what movies (and their endless sequels) have you just plain lost interest in? You were following them religiously, and at some point you just stopped caring?

Here's my list, in no particular order:

Terminator: the first two are awesome, and the third one blew donkey balls- I still haven't bothered with Terminator Salvation even today.

Highlander: Each successive sequel makes the one before it look good, no matter how bad the last one was. I stopped with Highlander Endgame, because of the ending. (If you haven't seen it, I'm not spoiling it.)

Die Hard: Like Terminator, the first two are awesome, and the third one just doesn't pull it off, despite the talents of John McTiernan directing. I would rather not see the fourth one, so I haven't.

Star Wars: Since those prequels also blew donkey balls, I refused to see that animated Clone Wars movie. Thanks, but no thanks George.

Lord of the Rings: I still haven't seen Return of the King, and to be honest, I don't know why. I just can't work up any enthusiasm to make the effort to finish the damn trilogy.

Rush Hour: The first one was passable entertainment, but the second one made me drop my membership to the Jackie Chan Fan Club (true story) I'm sure the third one is a steaming pile.

Spiderman: I liked the first one, was bored by the second one, and what little I saw of #3 was awful. I'm skipping the reboot.

If I think of anything else, I'll add to it. Otherwise, the floor is yours, people!
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:34 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Jaws, Alien, and Indiana Jones. The originals were all truly fantastic cinema, but eventually the franchises were reduced to nothing but hollow clichés.

The Jaws movies went from tense character drama to roaring and flying shark. In 3D.

Alien went from terrifying to the point of art to just another alien monster movie.

Indiana Jones, which I perhaps lament the most, managed to remove the imagination and adventure from perhaps the most imaginative, adventuresome series of movies ever made. Raiders of the Lost Ark was perhaps the perfect adventure movie: from Indiana Jones' dashing, yet wonderfully human archeologist-adventurer to forgotten tombs full of asps (very dangerous) to the wrath of Yahweh. Kingdom of the Crystal Skull featured cardboard enemies, boring mythology, and the horrible idea to make Shia LaBeouf Indi's son and possible successor in the franchise. I went into the movie and watched it with the most rose-colored glasses imaginable, but since then I've come to realize that the one and only enjoyable moment in the film is less than a minute long during the film's climax.

I'm glad that the James Bond franchise was rebooted, otherwise it might have found its way onto my list and off of my avatar.
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Old 03-11-2011, 11:43 PM   #3 (permalink)
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The Superman movies. I have'nt much interest in seeing the next one coming out, after this last one with Routh. (who delivered, imo)
The first two Superman films were good, but the rest were excruciating.
I gave up the Saw movies after the first one, and I'm not one to get squeamish easily. I just didn't care for them.
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:04 AM   #4 (permalink)
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One of the tests of any franchise is how successful the movie is by itself. It shouldn't really need any prequel.

Meh, it's my feeling that Aliens and Terminator 2 were in many ways better than the first movies.

Terminator 3 was absolutely horrible and I wish I'd never seen it. The latest Indiana Jones remake was rape.

Rambo and Die Hard? Those franchises could have stayed single movies and been masterpieces.

Lord of the Rings isn't a bunch of movies, it's one ridiculously long movie. I'm not a dork, but it was well done.

And I agree with Will that the James Bond universe keeps on keepin' on. They've adapted to the times.

All the recent comic book movies have been really bad. I liked Spiderman, Punisher was okay. Rest sucked.

I'm not a purist and given that I'm a total sellout for action movies, I can appreciate even the crappiest films.

Arnold, Sly, Lundgren, Van Damme? Got all the DVDs at home. You can't beat '80s action tropes and idioms.

I mean, action movies are like pizza. Even when they're bad... they're still good. I love B flicks and cheese-corn.
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Old 03-12-2011, 12:51 AM   #5 (permalink)
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i always thought that all Steven Seagal movies ever made were all sequals to each other. they're all the same plot, have similar names and sport cheesy lines and bad action scenes.
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Batman. The first two Keaton/Burton films were great, especially for their time. Once Burton stepped away from the director's chair and other lead actors stepped in, it went to shit. [The franchise would later be saved by Christopher Nolan.]

The Matrix. The sequels are dead to me.

X-men. The first was like an introduction of characters. The second was mediocre. The others have no appeal to me.

Spiderman. The first was okay, the second was forgettable, the trailer to the third looked unpromising.

Star Wars. Episode I was a mess, but there were some interesting bits. Episodes II and III were bigger messes to the point of absurdity.

Transformers. The first one was entertaining but difficult to take seriously. The previews to the second one kept me away from it.

The Highlander. There really can be only one.
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Old 03-12-2011, 08:09 AM   #7 (permalink)
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The Pink Panther - No Peter Sellers, no Pink Panther.

James Bond -After Timothy Dalton stepped in, he ruined it for me. I just don't have the passion for it anymore.
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:10 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I don't think Dalton was the problem with the Bond series. It was more a matter of not keeping up with the times. Sadly, the series limped along until the excellent re-boot.

The Matrix. I am so glad they didn't make any sequels to this film.

First Blood and Rambo were decent but everything else... not so much.

The only really good Star Wars film was Empire Strikes Back.
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Old 03-13-2011, 06:56 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Having watched a number of franchises recently, since I'd never seen them and S nearly had a golden cow and twin calves, I can say that there are few I'd give up on.

I actually liked the most recent Die Hard, and Terminator, but more own their own merit, not as a sequel/prequel/connected movie. After the Hobbits were frolicking in a bed together at the end of one of the movies, I decided never to bother with another Lord of the Rings movie... no matter what. The latest Rambo was really cheesy. The last X-Men kinda sucked but I'm looking forward to the prequel this summer and Wolverine, more on their own merit again. I don't go see movies often simply because of their franchise... I RottenTomatoes-them first. If you don't get more than 60%, I'll pass.
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Please, please, please let there never be another Fockers movie. EVER.
Or that guy that also has the CW shows and cross dresses... Tyler Perry?
Or Beverly Hills Chihuahua, Nutty Professor, Klumps... there are a ton where they could have stopped with the first.
The Matrix, Punisher, Rambo, RoboCop, Transporter (I and II), Lethal Weapon... I has much love for the originals, some for the sequels and a teeny bit of hope for thirds and more, but little faith after that.
If Transformers can't redeem itself after the ghetto-n-word twins, they're fucked.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:32 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Fun thread thought, MMG.

I really don't see that many movies. I was a big fan of Star Wars IV through VI as a kid. After Episode I, I decided that I didn't need to have my past memories altered.
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Old 03-14-2011, 01:37 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I find myself agreeing with most of them here. It looks like many franchises just outlive their use.

If I had to pick a top 3 it would be:

Star Wars: I refuse to acknowledge the existence of the prequels and any of the cartoons on TV that came afterwards.

Spiderman: 1st movie was awesome, after that were just meh. I didn't even see the 3rd one and I think I watched the 2nd movie once.

Matrix: I almost can't even watch the original movie because of how craptastic I know the sequels are. What a unique movie completely ruined by later crap.


I was ready to write off James Bond after Die Another Day but I really enjoyed the reboot movies with Daniel Craig. I'm really glad they saved that franchise and I can't wait for the next one.
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Old 03-14-2011, 04:35 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Fun thread thought, MMG.
I love threads about movies, but once in while you have to approach the subject a bit differently so discussing them doesn't get monotonous.

Oh, and I just thought of another franchise: Tremors! I loved the first one, hated the second one and haven't bothered with #3 and #4.
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Old 03-14-2011, 05:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Narnia - The first few were somewhat entertaining, but this last one really sucked. The cousin was the most whiny ass hat I've ever seen. I haven't seen any one so annoying on screen since Jack Black.

Harry Potter - Stopped giving a damn after Half Blood Prince.

Pirates of the Caribbeans - Should've stopped at the third one. No need for a fourth one. That whole drunken oaf thing is getting old.

Wolverine - Complete garbage.

Shrek - I stopped when he has babies. That's a good enough ending for me.
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Old 03-22-2011, 05:04 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Narnia - The first few were somewhat entertaining, but this last one really sucked. The cousin was the most whiny ass hat I've ever seen. I haven't seen any one so annoying on screen since Jack Black.

Harry Potter - Stopped giving a damn after Half Blood Prince.

Pirates of the Caribbeans - Should've stopped at the third one. No need for a fourth one. That whole drunken oaf thing is getting old.

Wolverine - Complete garbage.

Shrek - I stopped when he has babies. That's a good enough ending for me.
I agree with most of this (except Harry Potter, the movies aren't the best but I like them anyway).

The biggest problem I have with sequels is most of the time they taint a perfectly good original story. Pirates of the Caribbean and Transformers are perfect examples of these. To me, they were both mindless, fun, summertime entertainment - and now are being milked for every single cent that the studios can possibly squeeze out of them and it just pisses me off. Another Scream coming out this summer...good original with lame followups.

My son loves sequels and is just psyched for this summer. There is some Shrek spinoff with just the cat coming out soon and I wanted to vomit when I saw the preview for it, and Cars and Kung Fu Panda are both coming out with sequels this summer. Is there no originality left in Hollywood?
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:11 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Alien, Aliens, Predator, Aliens & Predators, Predators & Aliens - it just keeps getting worse with every subsequent film.

The original Alien is a classic of science fiction, no doubt (not withstanding Sigourny Weaver), as is the original Predator. But the attempts to reboot by combining are B-flicks at best, pop-corn fluff, and just not all that exciting to watch or own.

Ownership being the determining factor for me. If I like a movie well enough to own it, it's worth repeated watching. Franchises I've given up on, I don't want to own the subsequent installments or reboots.
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Old 03-23-2011, 01:42 PM   #16 (permalink)
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What's with the hate for Die Hard? I thought 3 and 4 were very entertaining. (I actually disliked 2 but it still wasn't terrible.)
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Old 03-24-2011, 09:09 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Hollywood has no interest in originality....what's that? The original was epic? Lets make another 4 sequels to milk every penny out of the masses and ruin a perfectly good title...smh.

You can also add the Transporter, 2nd and 3rd were garbage...
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What's with the hate for Die Hard? I thought 3 and 4 were very entertaining. (I actually disliked 2 but it still wasn't terrible.)
I liked Die Hard 3. The 4th one was a little over the top but fairly enjoyable. I like the newest Rambo too. I thought it was relevant to the times and true to the character. I've given up on horror movie sequels and remakes.
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Old 03-25-2011, 03:32 AM   #19 (permalink)
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Batman. The first two Keaton/Burton films were great, especially for their time. Once Burton stepped away from the director's chair and other lead actors stepped in, it went to shit. [The franchise would later be saved by Christopher Nolan.].
I quote because I tend to agree with what you say but wanted to elaborate my pov., add others. I truly hope you don't mind.

Batman after Keaton it did suck. Clooney? Kilmer? laughable even with superstar actors for the villains the franchise became much like the 60's camp show, but the acting was better on the old TV show.


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X-men. The first was like an introduction of characters. The second was mediocre. The others have no appeal to me.
X men I agree totally the first was very well done. After that the writing and movies went nowhere.

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Spiderman. The first was okay, the second was forgettable, the trailer to the third looked unpromising.
I liked Spidey 2 & 3, they had strong story lines and deeper character growth that I would have liked to see continue. Venom in a movie was hellacious, wasn't sure how they would do that but was impressed. 4 and "restarting it" may be pushing the franchise to Batman levels.

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Star Wars. Episode I was a mess, but there were some interesting bits. Episodes II and III were bigger messes to the point of absurdity.
I think the problems I had with 1-3 were more against my perception Lucas was just trying to sap money out of the fans. He and Spielberg (the latest Indiana Jones, the Jaws series) are like the Gene Simmons of movies. If there is money to be made they will whore out everything they can, no integrity even considered. All about the money.

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Transformers. The first one was entertaining but difficult to take seriously. The previews to the second one kept me away from it.
I didn't find 2 that bad, for what it was.... pure escapism. 3 maybe more difficult to swallow


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VERY TRUE. The first was truly a classic of epic proportions with the directing, editing, writing and acting. Sadly, a series and the sequels failed to catch any of that.

Hellboy after the second one I lost taste for it. Didn't see 3, if I did it was forgettable.


Poltergeist Supposed curse aside, the first one was very good, after that Speilberg was just cashing in. The TV series was decent though.

Ghostbusters Again one where the first was classic but a tv series and sequels kind of tarnish the original's beauty.

Now, for a list of my own.... movies that left me wanting more (I'll start with the positive):

the Analyze this/that series. Would be interesting to see after all this time how the relationship of the characters grew.

Hell Raisera remake of the original has been talked about, planned and in the works for years. I think it may have issues because Doug Bradley IS Pinhead and I have seen them all and even though I know what will happen it is still a fun ride to get there.

Star Trek the last one redeemed the series in my eyes because it showed the Origins of the original crew.

Batman if they can make it as good as the last one.... cool, if not let the Dark Knight rest in pieces.

Movies that knew when to end and did so leaving a great franchise behind:

Lethal Weapon granted by the 4th they had pretty much nothing left.

Beverly Hills Cop the series that made and destroyed Eddie Murphy 2 was okay and likable, 3 just sucked the energy outta me. very dull and little humor, it was like everyone just was doing it for a paycheck. To have gone further would have made it a comic book.

Saw Loved all of them the last one (which is supposedly the last one, we'll see) was for me rejuvenating solely because of the 3D effects. It blew me away from beginning to end. But, without those 3D effects would it have been as good? Hard to tell, my taste has me liking Hell raiser series.... so you judge on that one.

The original OMEN Trilogy One of my favorite movie series. It was cool to see each phase in Damian Thorne's life.


Movies that they should never have been serialized or made maybe one too many of:

Children of the Corn The first one wasn't even that good.

Leprechaun/the Prophecy/Boogie Man/Halloween/Nightmare on Elm Street/etc the first ones had some camp and ran on a predictable pattern so the first of their respective series and maybe the second were decent after that they became a jumbled mess.

Friday the 13th I separated this from the latter solely because the late 80's series was extremely cool and wasn't connected to the movie series that much like the above had a decent first movie but became a laughable clone. The series was far better than the "Freddy's Nightmares" series which was just a Tales from the Darkside/Tales from the Crypt/Twilight Zone genre with VERY poor writing and plots.

So there you have it. The above in this post represents the views solely of this poster except where quoted without permission but was given proper recognition to the originator of said quoted material. (Lighten up it's a joke, smile)
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You probably didn't see 3 because there wasn't one...unless I am mistaken. I think there are talks of a 3rd one however.
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Old 03-25-2011, 05:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Glad nobody has mentioned Blade yet. It really fell off after they killed off Blade and rebranded it "Twilight".
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You probably didn't see 3 because there wasn't one...unless I am mistaken. I think there are talks of a 3rd one however.
Very true 3 has only thus far been talked about.
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I guess it's up to one of us older members to remember two of the best and worst comedies ever made: Caddyshack & Caddyshack II

It's difficult to fathom that both movies were written by the same people. Talk about mailing it in . . . . .
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Have to say Star Trek. That last film was a horrific POS that would have made a barely passable television episode and was the worst choice possible for the films. I had very very low expectations with J.J. Abrams as director and they failed to even reach those.
They need to have Q appear in the next sequel and make the whole alternate timeline go away forever or at least banish it to the novels.

Star Wars sucked horribly as soon as the first prequel hit theatres. The second one buried it deeper and never have tried to endure the third one.

edit: forgot I was 108, usually don't feel a day past 50 something at most

I would count the recent transformers films as well but they all stink in my opinion, even keeping in mind the source is comic books.
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Old 06-01-2011, 09:03 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Resurrecting this thread. Saw Pirates of the Caribean "On Stranger Tides" the 3D version and it was very good. Surprised me. They did leave it open for another one. I won't say anything no spoilers from me, except I can't imagine NOT seeing this in 3D
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I find it lol how so many views about the original films are coloured by nostalgia. As stand alone movies, many of them fail.

Case in point: Spiderman. Many ppl wanted to see spidey in modern special effects. Yay! But I thought it was utter crap, just like the sequels. Atrocious casting except for Franco and Dafoe. Hard to take the two leads serious on any level. It got worse with the sequels, especially their fake romance in 3. Series fails all round.

Die Hard 3 is the best in the series, imo. It learnt lessons from Speed about high tempo suspense, and kept the best about 80's action movies. Die Hard 4 was OTT.
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Pirates of the Caribbean. I was bored with 2 and 3 and refused to watch 4.
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I guess it's up to one of us older members to remember two of the best and worst comedies ever made: Caddyshack & Caddyshack II

It's difficult to fathom that both movies were written by the same people. Talk about mailing it in . . . . .
Forgot about that one, or more specifically I had selectively forgotten about Caddyshack II as it is not even worthy of the name.

At least the Airplane sequel was well done and even managed to include Bill Shatner seeing the Enteprise through the scope
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James Bond- I only mention this because it could be the only entertainment link my Father and I have.

Hell Raiser- Should've never gone past the original and would've been one of the best horror movies...

Slap Shot- another that shouldn't have gone past the original.

Saw- The first was great, the rest just tried to one-up the original, you can't top sawing off your own leg...

Any Comic movie pre-Heath Ledger death. Before that it was about sales and money. IMHO, Heath Ledger transformed comics movies to make them a little more accountable to story lines and commitment to fans. For example, the Avengers movies have been really well done. Although, Edward Norton needs to be brought back as the Hulk.... I'm sorry but my man-crush prevails over any other decision.
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