settie

I just watched the second episode, and was quite disappointed in it.
So many things didn't make sense. Like the magically exploding fence, the ax-hacking without blood splatter, and the fucking nonsensical characters.
Also, rain would heighten the scent of the dead zombies. More likely to make them stink more, less likely to wash away. The only thing my friends and I could think of as a possible reason for the disguise failing, is that the guys BO was awful and heightened by hot air and sweat. still, nothing can cover stink like death.
I loved the first episode, I can't believe the second one was so shitty.

Nikilidstrom

Thats what happens when you stray from the source material. Especially when that source material was created by someone vastly more talented than Hollywood hack writers. My guess is the 6 episode season is really causing havoc with the storytelling and getting to a passable season finale.

Charlatan

Come on... they haven't strayed that far from the source material. The whole, washing the stink off in the rain was directly out of the comic book.

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Nikilidstrom

for the most part, the end of the first, and the entire last episode save the idea of putting the guts on them, was off source. The entire scenario, some of the characters, and all of the stereotypes were not in the comic.

Stare At The Sun

Ugh. Episode 1 was ok, but ep 2 and 3 just make me facepalm.

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Seriously, he uses the hacksaw on his wrist?!? Not the 1/4th inch thick bolt?

Hacksaws are for metal ladies and gentleman! METAL not your wrist.

Also, where the fuck did he go at the end of episode 3? If there was a magical roof exit, why didnt the others take it?

Also, why haven't they fortified their camp aside from a string of tin cans? Ditch + rampart anyone? Why haven't they cleared the brush out to give a clear line of sight to any walking dead? This is just basic shit here. Also, why didn't the other deputy get the guns from the station? AND this is the south, the deep south no less. Like every one of them wouldn't have a gun, especially when half of them are stereotypical hicks.

And why the fuck are they all walking around in regular clothes!? At least strap on leather jacket and some chaps or something, give yourself a bit of protection. And I love how they wear eye protection like half the time, and there is no blood splatter from axe/crowbar swings.

Why can't anyone make a zombie show where people act with anything resembling common sense?

Probably because a zombie apoc is unrealistic. And on that note, omg there were 50 cal's all over atl, and noone thought to take the hummers with them!? or the APCs? there was surplus military stuff all over the small town too. Ugh.

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settie

Man, you said it all. I agree with all of that man. Fucking stupid shit those last two episodes. Episode 1 was so great, and now, what the fuck.

Nikilidstrom

Not to beat a dead horse, but again it shows how much more talented Kirkman is than the entirety of Hollywood, who couldn't write their way out of a wet paper bag.

DRP976

Im a fan of zombies/movies...the walking dead is grade A.

dippin

I never read the comics, but the series so far feels very rushed and underdeveloped. Like what has transpired so far was probably covered is several comic books.


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Take today's episode, for example. The search for Merle is set aside without any explanation. Why would Darrell stop looking for his brother to risk his neck for Glenn? Why didn't they keep searching for Merle? And are we to believe that the old lady showing up asking for help with an asthma attack was really all that took to go from major bloodbath to buddies helping buddies?

m0rpheus

Merle isn't in the comic at all.

The characters seen so far that are actually from the comic are:
Rick, Lori and Carl Grimes
Shane
Glenn
Amy and Andrea
Dale
Jim (the guy digging the graves)
Carol and Sophia (Her husband did not appear in the comic he was already dead).
Morgan and Duane Jones (the guy from Jericho in the first episode and his kid)

Everybody else was made up for the TV show. So no searching for Merle in the comic.
Spoiler: They've also changed Shane a bit already. He dies in sixth issue, but I've heard that they plan to keep him around longer in the series.
They've actually removed an entire family that appears in the comics although I can't help but wonder Spoiler: if it's because one of the twins kills the other later on and the TV show just didn't want to deal with that.

I must say, the one disappointment I had with this episode is that Spoiler: Andrea didn't headshot the dying Amy so she wouldn't turn like she did in the comic. Although the gang thing was kind of dumb too.
I'm noticing more often then not the things that they've made up for the show are the things that are the worst about the show.

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Charlatan

I am an episode behind you guys, and yes, I have a few issues but, on the whole, I think the series is doing well.

I look forward to each new episode, and that says a lot.

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Nikilidstrom

This last Episode had much better dialogue IMO, and I'm glad they are back on track. The inner city gang storyline was pretty lame though, and just keeps me scratching my head as to why, with all of the tons and tons of great source material to pull from, they keep going to the well of trite Hollywood BS to find stroylines?

Nepenthes

I first heard about this show from TFP. I have not read the comic and I generally have low expectations for anything on TV. I think it pretty good so far. You can definitely tear it apart by analyzing it too much, but I find it entertaining.

settie

I totally agree. I mean, I've never read the comic, but while watching Amy, I kept thinking Spoiler: "Why aren't you shooting her in the head? She'll turn after she dies for sure! SHE GOT BIT!"Same with the other people that were bitten, like the abusive husband, etc. As for the whole gang thing, that was fucking stupid. Spoiler: Dumb guy randomly screams incoherently, and that violent brother of Merle isn't going to bash his head in without question? I know I fucking would, if I was standing in an alley with zombies all around me. I'd take the butt of the gun, and smash his face in. So stupid. So stupid it makes me angry.

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This episode was...OK. You finally got to see a bit of group togetherness eating the fish, even though it was slightly creepy, and difficult to understand. I feel like they picked the wrong conversation out of a long list of choices. The grave digging was ok, still fell offset somehow. I did like the small team's work back in the city, it was as logical as you can be surrounded by zombies, looking for Merle and grabbing the guns. The attack on the camp was pretty good too, lots of stupidity, but I guess stupid people do stupid shit.


Maybe I'm too critical of this show. I had such great hopes for it after watching the pilot. But its really turned to shit since then.

flat5

The trite stuff? The show will be driven by audience research. What pleases the perceived crowd. Do we need more family stuff? More kids? More hot chicks? More non-white people to kill?

m0rpheus

Now I'm a bit worried. The best stuff from the series is the stuff that's lifted straight from comic and the worst stuff is the new stuff.
The CDC was not in the comic.

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dippin

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I don't know what comes from the comics and what is specific to the series, but there are some serious issues that frustrate me.

For example, the day they saw the first walker within a few yards from the camp is also the day they decide to have a big ol fish fry without anyone as a look out?

One day they run from the city to the camp, the next the drive is so long as to overheat the RV and leave them almost out of gas, to the point where going to fort benning was not an option? And if the drive to the city left them almost without gas, why were they even considering the much longer drive to fort benning to begin with?

And the cdc bit made no sense. I won't go into how one guy survived alone in all that because that might be explained next week, but the decision to go there in the first place. I mean, they decide to go there to try to save Jim, but leave him behind when he asks? And they've been scavenging Atlanta for a while, and have CB radios, and the absolute lack of activity in the CDC doesn't tell them that there might not be an outpost there?

Finally, the time line makes Rick's coma even more nonsensical. 64 days since the infection has gone global? That means that Rick was in that hospital in a coma alone for a very long time.

I don't know if the comic had a tighter story than that, but the tv show seems too haphazard. In one scene there is a build up to a couple of guys walking up ahead to check if they can find a hose for the RV, the next shot the RV is fixed, no explanations provided.

I really think this would have been a superior show if they really took their time to develop their characters. Something like making the 6 episodes tell the story from the point rick is shot to the point he meets his family again. Because right now the series feels almost like they had 30 hours of footage and had to make last minute cuts to make it fit 6.

Still better than most current shows on tv, but that is damning it with faint praise.

dippin

All current writers have been fired from the show:

The Entire ‘Walking Dead’ Writing Staff Got Fired

Nikilidstrom

While that sounds like it should be good news, it looks like the producer/director Frank Darabont, the guy firing everyone, is the one acutally responsible for the horrible writing. The article states he wrote the frist 2 episodes, and rewrote the remaining 4, including one episode originally written by Kirkman himself. The guy sounds like an over zealous Hollywood producer. He does have several writing credits for screenplays, but only one other series credit, The Young Indiana Jones.

noodle

nooooooooooooooooo!!

I am so not liking the CDC thing. Where the fuck is Merle?!

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Well, He either ruined great scripts or salvaged shitty ones. I'd like to believe that it's the latter.

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m0rpheus

I really hope this is a good thing. I've said it more than once, there's some really good stuff in TWD and it's mostly the stuff that's been adapted from the graphic novel.
Hopefully these writers are the ones that are responsible for most of the crap filler like Merle.
I don't mind some of the changes they've made Spoiler: most noteably Shane still being alive. It lets them draw that out a bit longer which is okay IMO but most have been just dumb.

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m0rpheus

The CDC thing ended up being kinda meh. Wasn't great but wasn't nearly as bad as some of the original stuff.

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dippin

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The CDC was just a time waster. Filler. A season finale that solved a plot point put forth during the season finale. Still lots of illogical stuff. Like if the top doors were bullet and shatter proof, what was the big deal about locking the bottom doors? And Rick forgot a grenade in his pocket as he put his clothes in with the laundry? Nothing as bad as the "we drove 10 miles and we are out of gas, see, we should have gone to a place 100 miles away instead" of the 5th episode.

There is a ton of potential here, but the writing has been really inconsistent.

Hotmnkyluv

Rick didn't put the grenade clothes in the laundry. He went to sleep and Ed's wife snuck in and took them to do laundry while he was sleeping.

dippin

A distinction without a difference. So he woke up, saw his clothes being washed, and never once thought "where the hell did I put that grenade?"

But that is a relatively minor point.

Nikilidstrom

Its shit like this that makes me cringe at the thought of what Hollywood is going to do to a masterpiece like World War Z.

Latex Ren

I watched all episodes and for a TV Zombie flick it was great. There were issues but I moved past them.

I read WWZ and the Zombie Survival Guide and loved both.

My bother and I are patiently waiting for the day this comes true. I don't want to go out in a radioactive flash and I don't want to worry about some biotoxin on the wind. I want to unsheath my sword and go out swinging