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I realize it's still almost 2 months away but ABC is ramping up promotion and I'm getting antsy.

Regarding spoilers in this thread, I think we can surely talk openly about seasons 1 through 4, but should use spoiler tags in the immediate aftermath of newly aired episodes. Naturally, as the season moves on we can talk more openly about earlier episodes.

To whet your appetite here's an official sneak peak from the next season featuring Kate and Aaron at home.



The lingering question I have from Season 4 is how many of the background Lost got killed in the boat explosion.

I`m really looking forward to learning more about the outside forces tied to the island.

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Lasereth

This is the best show on TV and I can't wait for it to come back on. Season 4 was great (just as good as season 1 and 2, maybe even better) and had the best episode of the entire series (The Constant). The Heroes writers need to pay attention: THIS is how to write a sci-fi TV show.

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Jove

Season 4 came out on Tuesday if anyone is interested in updating themselves on the series.

Grasshopper Green

I really hope Jin didn't die. I can't wait for LOST to start!

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My boss and a coworker are so totally hooked on Lost that the coworker is taking a trip to Hawaii to go on the "official Lost tour".
I started watching this show its first season but missed a few episodes, came back when the Dharma stuff started and just could not get past the lapses of logic(and the neat hair and makeup on the female survivors). They swear it got better after the first season, so I'm watching it now.

I've been watching season 2 on Fancast, which runs the full episodes, and I'm still having a hard time getting past these lapses, such as:

They've got a hatch loaded with food that they eat, it's not a limitless amount, but they toss the uneaten into the garbage. Hello? Stew? Soup? Taking the seeds and planting a veggie garden? They find stashed food but no one ever rations. And Hurley tosses his stolen stash all over the place instead of putting it back....

There's a now-abandoned lab the size of a high school, yet they all live under tarps on the beach. I'd be like, y'all get sand and sun, I'll be under a roof.

The hatch has a shower and a bathroom, but they pee and shit in the woods.


Locke gets pinned by a hatch door that at the very least should have cracked a femur, but gets up and walks.

A big red balloon is stuck in a tree and three people don't see it until one of them asks why they're not getting wet in the rain. Um, they would have seen that huge red silk as they approached-laws of perspective.

Locke takes an engagement ring out of its box and puts it into a napkin ina picnic basket then later on pulls that ring out of his pocket and it's back in its box.

For an "deserted" island, there sure are a lot of people on it.

Plots get answered, but this logic lapse thing is making me laugh.
Still watching, though....

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ratbastid

Man, ngdawg, with all the puzzles they're setting up for you deliberately to worry about, you're worried about that stuff?

I mean, okay--you can watch it however you want to watch it. And you and lurkette are kindred spirits, by the way. But if there was EVER a show that rewarded suspension of disbelief, it's LOST.

ngdawg

Heh. It's a quirk. I do it at movies too and I can't knock people who get hooked on shows as I do too(I was a West Wingiac til its last season, got hooked on The L word and Sons of Anarchy this year, but I still nitpick! ). It's just taking me longer to wrap my head around this when there's so many glitches in their details.
Another one I thought about while watching into the wee hours-if Libby and Hurley were both in the same mental hospital, how come he didn't recognize her? I see people in passing and can recognize them weeks later elsewhere....

I have to assume that Locke put the ring back after Katey Sagal read the phony obit since I looked away for two minutes...

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Another clip from the upcoming season:

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A new "action packed" promo...

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Reese

There's a perfectly good explanation for all of these things NG!

They do have a garden. Sun tends to it. There was actually a pretty important scene in the first season that takes place in the garden. Hurley is wasteful, heck their all wasteful. I'd imagine it'd be a hard habit to break, especially when there's an unlimited supply of fish and fruit on the island so you don't have to be too conservative. Also, You don't really know why he's throwing it away. Maybe it was spoiled

As for the Hatch and the Abandoned lab, you have to remember the Island is HUGE. These things are hours away from the plane wreckage. The best chance of rescue would be to stay with the wreckage. This is pretty much explained with half the camp moves to the cave and the other half stay on the beach. Also, There was speculation that they were safer on the beach. Really, I wouldn't want to make a 5 hour trek across the dangerous jungle just to take a crap on a toilet. Also, even though the show's been on for over 5 years, time hasn't passed so quickly for the survivors that's only been on the island for like 40 or so days. I'd imagine they would eventually move to the lab or the hatch if they were eventually deemed safe.

As far as miraculous healing, or people surviving otherwise deadly situations, Well that's just part of the island. Expect to see alot of that.

It could be possible to walk up on a large red balloon and not realize it. The thick foliage and if I'm not mistaken it was near dark. You're walking through a jungle keeping your eyes on the ground so you don't step on snake or bear trap. Looking up and getting rain in the eye wouldn't be my highest priority

And the Engagement ring thing, That's just tv/movie editing. It happens all the time.

Oh and obviously the island wasn't as deserted as they originally assumed.

Suspension of disbelief, NG! You can do it!

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"Oh yeah, Libby says hi."

HA!

Awesomest show evar!

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sapiens

I would have liked to have seen a few more commercials.

Grancey

This was great. The wait was worth it. From the opening I knew it was gonna be great, again.

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i knew it would be her, only hurly can talk to the dead like it was nothing

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Leto

Don't worry these lapses get me too.

Question: I tried Fancast, but all of the videos say unavailable. Is the site still up and running?

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Catdaddy33

Wow!! One of the few shows that actually gets better as it goes along.

Ana Lucia popping up was an awesome scene... Hopefully that means we'll see more "departed" cast members pop up over the last 2 seasons.

fresnelly

One of the benefits of the island skipping around through time is that we could see both departed cast members in action but also groups from throughout the full history of the island: Dharma, Black Rock pirates, early Others... I suspect the barrage of flaming arrows came from the natives who built the three toed statue.

It was neat to see Desmond running the hatch again and I bet we'll see some other scenes from earlier episodes from different angles, a la Back To The Future 2.

The season is off to a great start!

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Troublebot

Gah! How did I not know Lost was starting last night! I missed the first hour (did see Hurley talking to Ana. In fact, one of the first things I saw was "Libby says hi" and I almost shit myself. The double shock of the line and realizing I had missed most of the show.)

Anyone know where on can find the episode on the internet tubes? Hulu? ABC.com?

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SpottedThinker

It's on ABC fer sure. I love LOST, it's my favorite show, but I really almost fell asleep last night.... it just seemed like a scramble to tie loose ends, rather than an ep. of LOST.

Grancey

I hope we get to see Charlie again.

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Lasereth

Yeah same here. The barrage of commercial breaks and the disjointed feel to the episode made me drift off a couple of times.

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Willravel

I got scared because my nose started bleeding during the episode.

filtherton

I hope we get to see Charlie die again.

ngdawg

Fancast.com
got it on now. less commercials that way

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Fremen

I thought they were going to answer some questions! We got new ones instead, damnit!

Where did we see that older lady that Ben was talking to? It was in some shop in England, I think...

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Willravel

Good eye.

Grancey

That was Ms. Hawking, the lady in the shop where Desmond went to buy the ring for Penny. She told him some stuff about his future and going to the island.

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RetroGunslinger

A lot of people don't seem too happy with the first two episodes, but I think they're pretty damn good. Sure, more questions were brought up than answered, but that's what I love about Lost, there's always some mystery. Right now, there's a fuckload of mystery.

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Fremen

Thanks, Will.

And thanks, Grancey.
Her name is Fionnula Flanagan.
I first noticed her in the tv series "How the West Was Won" from the 70's.
I was always attracted to redheaded Irish lasses.

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The decor and equipment in the basement of the church where Ms. Hawking (Stephen!) was working looked very "Dharma" to me. I wonder if it counts as a Station; one that is used for tracking the island.

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Jove

Did you notice you had a headache and you couldn't remember your mother's maiden name?

Grancey

Charles Widmore??? This just keeps getting better and better.

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Willravel

Damn it! Lost went like 2 minutes late and my DVR stopped! Now I have to download the whole thing just to hear John Locke finish talking. I can't stand it when networks do that!

That clinches it, I'm dling the rest of the season at 720p off mininova instead of watching it live.

Lasereth

Wow, last night's episode was way better than the season premiere. Charles Widmore WTF.

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I think the young Other woman who escorted Faraday to the bombsite is in fact his mother, but more importantly, Mrs. Hawkins! That would explain Faraday's line about her looking familiar. I think when Desmond visits her, we'll see a family photo confirming it.

I wonder how many generations the Others go back on the Island? Their use of Latin tells me they could go back at least to the Black Rock. Perhaps they were the ones who displaced the three toed statue natives; assuming they aren't actually descended from them.

One more crackpot unfounded theory: Now that Time travel is in play, I think Jacob isn't a ghost or spirit, but a man who is "out of phase" with the time frame of the island. How or why, I have no idea.

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Rekna

Ok here is one of my theories. The hatch was built on top of the buried hbomb and the button pushing was something that had to be done in order to stop it from exploding.

Willravel

That's what I was thinking, but is Faraday aware of it? Maybe when he said she looked familiar that was just his way of reaching out to her without cluing her in to who she is, or rather will become.
The statue was probably Apollo, which suggests that the Greeks were there earlier than the Others (the Others probably having been introduced after the beginning of the Roman Empire considering their use of Latin).
That's an interesting idea, but I thought we'd already established that was a human behavioral experiment. Or was that conclusion reached after the button wasn't pressed and nothing happened?

Grancey

I've been thinking the same thing. My crackpot theory contribution is that Jacob is John Locke or, perhaps, Aaron.

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Rekna

Nothing happened? The hatch exploded/imploded and there was a giant light that went into the air.

Willravel

Man, I really need to rewatch that....